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Jul-02-12
 | | visayanbraindoctor: Thanks CG.com for covering this event. |
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Jul-02-12
| | visayanbraindoctor: What is the history of this Russia vs China match up? When did it begin, during what years has it been held, who have played, and what are the scores? |
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Jul-02-12
 | | Kinghunt: China sends its 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 7th highest rated players a third of the way around the world to seek glory. Russia responds by fielding its 6th, 7th, 9th, 12th, and 20th highest rated players in this home event. Despite such clear ambition on the part of the Chinese and nonchalance of the Russian federation, after the first round, Russia leads 3.5-1.5, and I don't think anybody is really at all surprised. |
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| Jul-02-12 | | fref: This match is held annually, I think,
and Russia rarely sends their best rated players. |
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Jul-02-12
 | | Eyal: According to the whychess report (http://whychess.com/en/node/2135), for the Russian players (at least the four 2700s) it's a sort of qualifier for a place on the Olympiad team, so in this regard they should be highly motivated - Dokhoian is taking notes... |
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Jul-02-12
 | | twinlark: <visayanbraindoctor> These matches started in 2001 and have been held 7 times so far (until 2010), as far as I can tell, with China winning the overall results by 5-2. The first China-Russia match was held in Shanghai and started off with men's (6 players), women's (3 players) and juniors' (3 players) teams. Russia won the first summit decisively 41.5-30.5 with most of the difference in scores arising from the results between the men's teams. The full team and individual results and crosstables are here: http://www.olimpbase.org/2001rc/200... The second Russia-China match was held in Moscow in 2004 and this time the Chinese were better prepared, winning the event by 37.5-34.5 thanks to the lopsided win by the Chinese women's team (the Russian men won their match) Results are here: http://www.olimpbase.org/2004rc/200... The 3rd Russia-China match was held in Erguna in 2006 in Chinese-held Mongolia, with another win to the Chinese contingent 51.5-48.5, thanks again to the women's team which by this time had expanded to five players, including Yifan. The junior teams had been dropped. Results: http://www.olimpbase.org/2006rc/200... The 4th summit was in 2007 in Nizhny Novgorod, with the Chinese teams again winning, this time by 52.5-47.5, with the Chinese winning both the men's and women's matches. Results: http://www.olimpbase.org/2007rc/200... The 5th summit was in 2008 in Ningpo, China, and shorter matches were played, with the Chinese winning narrowly by 26-24 thanks this time to the men's team winning their match by 4 points. Results: http://www.olimpbase.org/2008rc/200... The 6th summit was held in 2009 in Sochi and took a different format. There were still two team of 5 men and 5 women each, but they played classical, rapid and blitz games. The result was China 119.5 - Russia 130.5. More details at http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne.... The 7th summit in 2010 was held in Ningbo, with the Chinese teams winning 128-122. Details: http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne... I think this is the 8th summit as last year was taken up with the World Team Championship in Ningbo. |
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| Jul-03-12 | | blade2012: My usual two cents on 'Scacchi Internazionali':
http://biker60.wordpress.com/2012/0... Official Site:
http://russiachess.org/championship... |
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Jul-03-12
 | | SetNoEscapeOn: <twinlark>
Outstanding work.
The Chinese men had a bad start. I expect it to become more competitive in the rounds ahead. Love this format. |
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| Jul-03-12 | | polarmis: I wrote a big report on the first day's play:
http://whychess.org/en/node/2150
And see this preview, http://www.whychess.org/en/node/2135, if only for the picture of Grischuk from 11 years ago :) |
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Jul-03-12
 | | HeMateMe: Gris and his two buddies look like opium smugglers from a Coen brothers movie. |
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| Jul-03-12 | | ooda: <HeMateMe: Gris and his two buddies look like opium smugglers from a Coen brothers movie.> Yes but to be fair all young Russian males look like that. |
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| Jul-03-12 | | Jason Frost: <twinlark> Wow, great work. I was just looking for exactly this yesterday. Still a bit disappointing to me that Russia doesn't field it's 'A' team, even if that would be a bit unfair rating wise. |
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Jul-03-12
 | | OBIT: So who does Pogonina have her chessbucks on in this match? |
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Jul-03-12
| | visayanbraindoctor: <twinlark> Thanks for the comprehensive review! |
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Jul-03-12
 | | wordfunph: <twinlark> yodaman! superb post. |
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| Jul-04-12 | | offramp: <twinlark> from me also a laurel and a hearty handshake. Thanks!
I was expecting to see China a fair way in the lead by now but those crazy Russkies are doing really well! Very very hard fought games! What's the average move-length, I wonder? |
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Jul-04-12
| | twinlark: You're welcome, fellers. There are other summit matches too but this is the big one. Chessbase just posted an article that provides a bit of background, especially the earlier summits: http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp... |
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Jul-04-12
 | | zakkzheng: I think China and Russia both have a 50% chance of winning this competition |
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| Jul-05-12 | | offramp: <Chessbase: <Prize fund: Each men's team receives $15,000 (non-taxable); each women's team receives $10,000 (non-taxable)>>. Not bad I suppose.
But when one visualises the TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS of dollars slooshing around Russia/China at the moment - it's not a fortune. Where is Gazprom?
They made a profit of $45,000,000,000 last year.
That's enough money to stage 15 matches like this one every 6 seconds for the next nine years! Why don't they do that? |
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Jul-05-12
 | | HAPERSAUD: Russia will always win |
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Jul-05-12
| | Kinghunt: Russia would always win if they sent their top players like China does. We're essentially seeing Russia's B team versus China's A team. I think this tends to lead to pretty even, closely contested matches. |
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Jul-06-12
 | | BishopofBlunder: <offramp: ...Where is Gazprom?
They made a profit of $45,000,000,000 last year.
That's enough money to stage 15 matches like this one every 6 seconds for the next nine years! Why don't they do that?>
Because they are too busy making $45,000,000,000 a year. |
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Jul-06-12
 | | parmetd: Why did they play 5 boards in round1&2 but switch to 4 boards for round 3&4&5. |
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| Jul-06-12 | | offramp: <BishopofBlunder: <offramp: ...Where is Gazprom? They made a profit of $45,000,000,000 last year.
That's enough money to stage 15 matches like this one every 6 seconds for the next nine years! Why don't they do that?>
Because they are too busy making $45,000,000,000 a year.> Oh yeah...
Oh well... |
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| Jul-06-12 | | hrobert5: I'm really impressed with Jakovenko. Two wins three draws no losses. Am I wrong or is he the only one in the tournament without a loss? |
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