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|Aug-04-12|| ||Sokrates: <tolengoy: <That, however, doesn't diminish the greatness of Carlsen by a iota.> Magnus horrific loss and early elimination in the blitz edition of this event surely diminished his greatness....not only by an iota but by 50 mega tons of TNT..> Another hilarious post. Please stop, I can hardly breathe. "50 tons of TNT" - wow, that's a powerful metaphor - can't compete here - you win by force!|
|Aug-04-12|| ||perfidious: In the aftermath of losing to that 2700+ donk Bacrot in the blitz, Carlsen might as well fold his tent. His career is done. Winning the WC and beating all comers won't be enough to overcome the stigma.|
|Aug-04-12|| ||Absentee: Great, now the filipino trolls are going to crap all over this page too.|
|Aug-04-12|| ||Rolfo: <Great, now the filipino trolls are going to crap all over this page too.>|
They may have their opinions, their imaginary and colored way of describing their thinking. But alas they also have distorted facts, misunderstandings and some belittling.
|Aug-04-12|| ||frogbert: <Oddly enough, here http://www.2700chess.com he seems to be rated 2742, But here http://www.ittfranking.com/gen/worl... they say that his rating is actually 2747 ...>|
meta, more scary in my opinon: the ittf-ranking site says that <zhang jike> is rated <2921!> jikes ... carlsen can go home now. ;o)
|Aug-04-12|| ||tahdah: <and his achievement is highly respectable. That, however, doesn't diminish the greatness of Carlsen by a iota.>|
I disagree, Carlsen is way way rated above than anybody else. Once upon a time, someone said that 50 elo points does not make any difference in playing strength. That statement is not true nor correct as evidenced in this toynament, it was a product of a wild imagination, someone who can't separate facts from fictions. It is now a fact that Carlsen was below his godly standard. He should have won Biel uncontested contrary to just landing neath Hao. In fact, Carlsen should have won 10 games. No questions asked.
That diminishes his greatness (which is yet to be attained)even with the help of the circus organizers.
|Aug-04-12|| ||frogbert: according to the rating system - which is the basis of *all* the players' ratings - carlsen scored more than half a point <above> his expected score, based on the difference between his rating and his opponents' ratings. he had a tpr of 2879, clearly above his own rating and the highest in the tournament.|
relatively though, wang hao overperformed even more. carlsen only plays his own games, and he certainly delivered according to expectations. imo wang hao's win was actually *more* due to his bigger overperformance than the scoring system in effect.
we can't really be too bothered that some peanut brains don't have a clue about neither ratings nor performances. nor very much else, it seems. anyway, when one doesn't understand even the basics regarding ratings - and shows no intent of wanting to learn anything - then one disqualifies oneself from having any opinion at all wrt rating-related matters. in this case that's entirely fine.
rejoin the debate when you've educated yourself, tahdah. until then you're simply noise.
|Aug-04-12|| ||tahdah: <50 elo points does not make any difference in playing strength>|
I wonder who said this?
|Aug-04-12|| ||tahdah: <imo wang hao's win was actually *more* due to his bigger overperformance than the scoring system in effect.>|
A lot spinning wheels to get the cherries aligned.
What's next, underperformance or at par with his current rating?
Another concocted, mumbo jumbo work of art. Good for playing tarot reading.
|Aug-04-12|| ||tahdah: Yeah, it must be the sun, the moon and the stars.|
|Aug-04-12|| ||frogbert: noise protection enabled. :o)|
|Aug-04-12|| ||tahdah: bye bye froggie, can't handle the truth, cover your ears. :o)|
|Aug-04-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Pure ignorance.|
|Aug-04-12|| ||tahdah: Pure facts I laid out. It came from the houymnmn mouth.|
|Aug-04-12|| ||OhioChessFan: Someone has to be the first to stop.|
|Aug-05-12|| ||dumbgai: <meta, more scary in my opinon: the ittf-ranking site says that <zhang jike> is rated <2921!> jikes ... carlsen can go home now. ;o)>|
Forget chessboxing, let's have chess-tabletennis! The ultimate sport that combines quickness of mind with quickness of body!
|Aug-06-12|| ||Nicocobas: I understand that Leinier Dominguez was scheduled to play in the Biel Chess Tournament. Does anyone know why he didn't participate?|
|Aug-06-12|| ||kia0708: do you know of any video + analysis of any of the games ?|
|Aug-06-12|| ||Eyal: There are videos with the players' comments on the games throughout the tournament at http://www.youtube.com/user/bielche...|
|Aug-06-12|| ||Nicocobas: Thanks kia0708 and Eyval.I went to the site but didn't see how to find the answer to my question.|
|Aug-08-12|| ||zakkzheng: Magnus Carlsen should of got first place in the Biel chess festival, but the special effect with 3 points a win and 1 point a draw got Magnus 1 point behind the champion Chinese Grandmaster Wang Hao! I believe that every tournament should reward the wins with 3 points and the draws with one point because this encourages people to win instead of a draw. If someone is one point ahead of someone using the rule of the draws in the last round,if they draw, then someone else might win. This is why I like to use this ideal form of counting points. I think this is a better way of counting how many points you have. :)|
|Aug-08-12|| ||lostemperor: I don't think these top boys care much about these scoring points to play much harder for a win than normal since only rating points seem to matter but it sure is nice to have these kinds of progressive scores.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Octavia: this comp shows that the scoring system is silly - Carlsen was the winner to my mind.|
I once won a tournament section with this system, but its not fair. a draw is half as much as a win, not slightly more than a loss!
How's that for an erudite explanation?
|Aug-12-12|| ||SugarDom: The world's most popular sports, "football" uses this system. It's silly?|
You may say it's "chess" not "football". But both have "win", "loss" and "draw".
What's the difference? - Chess is supposed to be boring?
|Aug-13-12|| ||Pedro Fernandez: 3:1 baremo indeed it is stupid.|
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