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|Sep-22-12|| ||twinlark: <Ezzy>
Of course you're right. I meant that these two are fighting it out fiercely for the runnerup position that will be entitled to challenge for the Women's World Championship next year.
This is assuming the runner up doesn't win the championship later this year, in which case, as winner of the GP series, Yifan gets to challenge.
It's all a bit complicated.
But these two are battling it out for a guarantee of challenging for the Championship directly.
|Sep-23-12|| ||fref: I'm rooting now for Muzychuk, as I really DON'T want a repeat of Yifan-Koneru :O|
|Sep-24-12|| ||waustad: Koneru has a much easier remaining draw than Anna M. Anna must win tomorrow to have a shot at winning this. http://ankara2012.fide.com/en/compo...|
|Sep-25-12|| ||HeMateMe: I'd like to see Yifan play someone other than Humpy in the next womens WC. The last match just wasn't very competitive, Humpy got steamrollered. I doubt Muzychuk would do much better.|
What I REALLY would like to see is Judit Polgar/Hou Yifan, 12 game match. Maybe Rex Sinequefeld, multimillionaire chess patron could offer the ladies enough compensation for a match, at his St. Louis chess club?
The timing is perfect--Polgar is no longer in her prime, Yifan keeps improving, closing the gap. Since this would be a non-title match, Yifan doesn't lose her "crown" if she is defeated.
I think they might do it if the money was right, and if the Chinese government doesn't block Yifan from working independently.
|Sep-25-12|| ||waustad: Remember, the Friday round starts 5 hours earlier, so that means something like 3AM EDT. Fortunately the next 2 rounds are at times that work better for the Western Hemisphere. Tomorrow:|
YILDIZ BETUL CEMRE-KOSINTSEVA TATIANA
ZHAO XUE-SOCKO MONIKA
STEFANOVA ANTOANETA-OZTURK KUBRA
KONERU HUMPY-MUZYCHUK ANNA
CMILYTE VIKTORIJA-MUNGUNTUUL BATKHUYAG
RUAN LUFEI-JU WENJUN
|Sep-26-12|| ||HeMateMe: Muzychuk defeats Humpy Koneru in round nine. she now leads.|
|Sep-26-12|| ||Natalia Pogonina: My opinion about the current system is similar to the one expressed here:|
|Sep-26-12|| ||dumbgai: Interesting fact: Humpy and Muzychuk have faced each other 7 times, and in every game Humpy had white. Overall score is +1 -1 =5.|
|Sep-27-12|| ||HeMateMe: Hi Natalie, I read the article over at CB. One of the Turkish players is only rated 2290. You, I believe, are around 2500. And, of course, you recently won the championship of Russia. I can't belive you would not be invited.|
Bringing in half of the players by some sort of committe decision just seems wrong. If this happened on the mens side, say, a 2600 "homer" got let in while Grischuk and Moro were excluded, the players would all have spoken up in the media about it.
[Except for Anand]
It's a shame the selections can't be more objective. Going just by ratings, I think you would have been included, to say nothing of your recent performances in the Olympiad and closed Russian Championship.
Is there any chance your chess federation can appeal the selection?
|Sep-27-12|| ||dumbgai: So it's another Hou-Humpy match? zzz|
|Sep-27-12|| ||dx9293: I think Muzychuk would do better than Humpy, though I think Hou would be the favorite.|
My impression is that Humpy simply cracked in that match. Hou is quite a strong player, but is far from invincible.
|Sep-27-12|| ||dx9293: <Natalia> I read Peter's article also.|
It's true that his own wife is affected by the Grand Prix selection process, but that doesn't make him wrong!
I think FIDE has the Women World Cup selection process pretty much right.
It is hard to tell the organizers to not invite one of their own players for its Grand Prix tournament. However, such an organizer pick shouldn't keep getting appearances! It would be better if there were two organizer picks, but each one only got to play in one tournament, than this system.
Rostov chose Kovalevskaya, Nalchik chose Kosteniuk, and Kazan chose Galliamova. You must have been quite annoyed--I know I would have been if I was in your place. Next time, maybe Saratov can sponsor one of the tournaments...
|Sep-27-12|| ||waustad: For tomorrow's big matchup:
Classical games: Anna Muzychuk beat Ruan Lufei 1 to 0, with 1 draw.
This will be the first game between them where Anna M has had the black pieces.
|Sep-28-12|| ||waustad: Acorrection on the time. It should start at 4AM EDT, not 3.
|Sep-28-12|| ||shivasuri4: Well done, Humpy! Now she'll have to hope Yifan Hou or Humpy herself wins the Khanty Mansiysk World Cup, else this runner-up result in the Grand Prix series wouldn't be of much value.|
|Sep-28-12|| ||paulalbert: Too bad for Anna Muzychuk, since she beat her main rival Humpy Koneru in their individual game and was the only unbeaten player, but too many draws with the others. Today's game she wound up with tripled pawns and a totally imprisoned dark squared bishop, so couldn't accomplish more than a another draw, while Humpy notched a win against a much lower rated player.|
|Sep-28-12|| ||Ragh: <..while Humpy notched a win against a much lower rated player.> Humpy's opponent Socko's rating was 2463. Anna's opponent Ruan was rated 2479. Not much of a difference.|
Anyway, congrats to Yifan and Humpy.
|Sep-28-12|| ||HeMateMe: Is Humpy now the challenger to Yifan, or is it the winner of the next tournament, in Khanty? Or, does one need an ouji boad to figure out this selection process?|
|Sep-28-12|| ||dumbgai: Well I guess the silver lining here is that I'm also a fan of Hou Yifan so it's nice to know she'll be holding onto her title for at least another year or two. However the cycle works (I've long given up trying to understand FIDE WC format).|
|Sep-28-12|| ||paulalbert: Ragh, I meant Humpy's opponent was lower rated than Humpy, not lower rated than Anna's opponent. The way I stated it wasn't clear.|
|Sep-28-12|| ||twinlark: <HeHateMe>
Koneru will challenge Yifan in a championship match next year <provided> Yifan retains the championship by winning this year's World Championship Knockout Tournament.
If Yifan fails to win the KO Tournament, then it will be Yifan - as the winner of the GP series - who gets to challenge the new World Champion in match play in 2013.
In other words, being runner up in the Women's Grand Prix has no World Championship cycle value as such to Koneru unless Yifan retains her title this year.
|Sep-28-12|| ||dumbgai: <twinlark> Wow that sounds like an incredibly stupid system. Why not have the KO be a candidate's tournament for Hou Yifan? Silly FIDE.|
|Sep-28-12|| ||HeMateMe: thanks <Twinlark> I guess they like making the ladies work a little harder.|
If I get this right, Yifan, although defending world champion, will have to participate in this knockout tournament and win it again. Sort of like the once-upon-a-disaster FIDE knockout tournaments of the late 90s.
But, if Yifan does not win this upcoming knockout tournament, then she has a safety valve--she can still challenge the tournament winner in a later match?
And where does this leave Humpy Koneru? Is the idea that 1) if Yifan does not win the ko tournament, then Koneru plays THAT person, and the winner plays Yifan?
I think I know what happened. When the aliens last brought <Kirsan> up in the spaceship, they told him, at the sharp point of a ray-gun, that this was how the women's elimination process will go down, or the human race and every living thing on earth will be destroyed.
That's my theory, and I'm sticking with it.
|Sep-28-12|| ||parisattack: <HeHateMe ...That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.>|
A sound theory IMHO.
And congratulations to Humpy who played inspired chess and seems to have regained her previous form!
|Sep-29-12|| ||twinlark: <HeMateMe>
<If I get this right, Yifan, although defending world champion, will have to participate in this knockout tournament and win it again. Sort of like the once-upon-a-disaster FIDE knockout tournaments of the late 90s.>
<But, if Yifan does not win this upcoming knockout tournament, then she has a safety valve--she can still challenge the tournament winner in a later match?>
<And where does this leave Humpy Koneru? Is the idea that 1) if Yifan does not win the ko tournament, then Koneru plays THAT person, and the winner plays Yifan?>
No. In this scenario, Yifan plays the winner of the KO tourney and Koneru is back to square one with everyone else.
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