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|May-05-13|| ||perfidious: The apparently interminable orgy of self-justification by one poster, in the face of facts, has migrated to another page. How lucky we are-as in not.|
Most unfortunate that it should sully another fine tournament page, but that can be the curse of having certain anonymous random posters on the internet.
|May-05-13|| ||Phony Benoni: <perfidious> There's room for research about 19th century attitudes toward the world championship. <We> know what happened--history is 20-20, after all--but it may not have been as clear at the time. As a comparison, think of the confusion in the 1990s when it wasn't clear whether FIDE or Kasparov and his Friends would ultimately prevail.|
I came across another tidbit today. When Lasker clinched first in the Paris 1900 tournament, the headline in the New York Times was <"LASKER STILL CHAMPION">, as if to imply he wouldn't have been had he not won the tournament.
Now these are little molehills against mountains of contrary evidence. But it's still a question that could use some research.
|Feb-01-15|| ||tessathedog: I am hoping to visit England next year and play in the Hastings tournament, partly to sense the "chess history" of the place (not to mention it's other historic connections). I wonder does anyone know exactly where the great 1895 tournament was played, and if the building is still standing?|
|Feb-01-15|| ||Edeltalent: <tessathedog> I played there at the end of last year for exactly your reasons. Honestly speaking I couldn't sense much of the chess history during the tournament, which now takes place in a sports hall. Still a very well organized event with excellent playing conditions and a strong field.|
The tournament 1895 was played in what is now the public library, right in the town center. You can go in there and walk around.
|Feb-01-15|| ||tessathedog: Thank you very much <Edeltalent> for your response and your most informative link. So, the building the tournament was played in still stands...that will be interesting to visit. Interesting too to see a photo of the Queens Hotel, which presumably still stands too, in which the players were accommodated. I am not quite sure, but seem to recall reading that Capablanca was treated differently...he was put up in the higher quality "King's Hotel". In any case, if these are still in operation, they will be the "must stay there" choice for accommodation if I do in fact visit Hastings this year! Many thanks again for responding to my post, I really appreciate it.|
|Feb-01-15|| ||Chessical: <tessathedog> The Queen's Hotel still exists:|
|Feb-02-15|| ||tessathedog: Thanks <chessical>...although that link seems to be to the Queen's Hotel in Brighton? I am not sure if the Queen's Hotel Hastings still stands...a quick google produced unclear results.|
|Feb-02-15|| ||Tabanus: Queen's Hotel in Hastings has now been converted into luxury apartments:|
|Feb-02-15|| ||perfidious: Recall John Nunn writing of the former Hastings venue in his best games collection from 1994, and hardly in glowing terms, to put it mildly.|
|Feb-02-15|| ||john barleycorn: <perfidious: Recall John Nunn writing of the former Hastings venue in his best games collection from 1994, and hardly in glowing terms, to put it mildly.>|
That was about 100 years later and we all know how much the british invested into the maintainance of the british empire. Lol.
|Feb-02-15|| ||MissScarlett: Nunn's books are crusty - like his underpants.|
|Jun-29-15|| ||Chessical: According to Raymond Keene in "The Spectator" of 27th June 2015: "In the first round of Hastings 1895, the German grandmaster Dr Siegbert Tarrasch lost on time with me move to go against Amos Burn."|
In fact, Burn lost to Tarrasch in round 9, whilst Tarrasch lost on time to James Mason in round 1.
|Sep-09-15|| ||The Kings Domain: One of the most fabled tournaments, and the one that introduced Pillsbury to the world.|
|May-08-16|| ||RookFile: Win, lose or draw, it's always interesting to play over a Pillsbury game.|
|Feb-06-17|| ||solskytz: One should mention that Lasker was ill with Typhus at the time of the tournament, and almost died. |
He still dragged himself to play - and it was incredible that he could finish in the top three, a healthy distance from the pack, in his condition - he could still play world-class chess.
In his state and despite winning the WCH on the preceding year, he couldn't be perceived as "a favorite" by any stretch. Immense will power and ability to fight!
|May-27-17|| ||zanzibar: http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/cdm/singl...|
|May-28-17|| ||MissScarlett: I've read that Blackburne played a vital role in Pillsbury's invitation to the event. Anyone know more?|
The <Pall Mall Gazette> of July 13th 1895, p.9, reveals that 38 masters applied for places, from which the final 22 had been selected. Perhaps this is stage where Blackburne's apparent influence was felt.
The tournament intro claims that Pillsbury was 'relatively unknown', which is relatively inarguable, but I do note the <(London) Standard> of July 16th, p.7, states the line-up are all <well known, with the exception of Vergani>.
|May-28-17|| ||Paarhufer: <solskytz: One should mention that Lasker was ill with Typhus at the time of the tournament, and almost died.>|
Lasker's illness begun at the end of October 1894 (newspapers reported on a cancelled appointment). The following text is from the <The Belfast News-Letter>, 1 November 1894:
"It is with regret that we learn that Herr Lasker, the eminent chess master, and Chess Champion of the world, is now lying in St. Thomas' Hospital, suffering from an attack of gastric fever with additional danger through the breaking of a bloodvessel. So critical was Lasker's condition at the end of last week that his brother Dr. Lasker was summoned from Berlin. Since that time the illness has taken a favourable course towards recovery, and it is hoped that the greatest part of the danger is now past. The patient is in good hands and nothing will be left undone that can either alleviate his sufferings or hasten his recovery. In any case many weeks must necessarily elapse before he can resume to play."
In Cheshire's tournament book (p.4) the following is said:
"... whilst Lasker, though scarcly yet robust, would probably be sufficiently recovered from his exhausting illness .."
|May-30-17|| ||zanzibar: I think Cheshire's tb (p347) has more to say on the matter:|
On May 26, 1894, he won the championship of the world by scoring his tenth win against Steinitz's five (four drawn). On October 19, in the same year, he was taken suddenly ill with typhoid fever, when he was carefully attended by Dr. B. Lasker, his brother, who came over from Berlin for the purpose. This illness, after some delays, prevented him playing his promised return match with Steinitz. Doubtless he will, however, now soon give Steinitz an opportunity for revenge.
whereupon we learn the exact affliction, and the exact date it struck.
(Other sources agree with the above i.e. typhoid; others might have "fun" digging those refs out - I'll leave that to the "pros".)
Would some kind biographer editor change the bio above?
Typhus is certainly wrong, and gastic fever, although overlapping, is not specific enough.
Related to Gastric fever: Nervous fever, Gastric flu
(Med.) a fever attended with prominent gastric symptoms; - a name applied to certain forms of typhoid fever; also, to catarrhal inflammation of the stomach attended with fever.
|May-30-17|| ||zanzibar: <While "typhoid" means "typhus-like", typhus and typhoid fever are distinct diseases caused by different types of bacteria.>|
|May-31-17|| ||MissScarlett: < On October 19, in the same year, he was taken suddenly ill with typhoid fever, when he was carefully attended by Dr. B. Lasker, his brother, who came over from Berlin for the purpose.>|
Berthold even helped his brother OTB:
B Lasker vs F Brendel, 1894
|May-31-17|| ||zanzibar: <MissS> can you possibly spell out exactly how Berthold helped out his brother in that game?|
|May-31-17|| ||MissScarlett: I believe Emanuel was scheduled to give that simul, but Berthold stepped into the breach. I'll look up the source tomorrow.|
|May-31-17|| ||zanzibar: Ah, interesting...|
|May-31-17|| ||zanzibar: You probably submitted the game too, given that it has a source tag(!):|
<[Source "The (London) Standard, 1894.11.12, p.7"]>
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