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Hamburg Tournament

Isidor Gunsberg12/17(+11 -4 =2)[games]
Joseph Henry Blackburne11.5/17(+10 -4 =3)[games]
James Mason11.5/17(+9 -3 =5)[games]
Max Weiss11.5/17(+8 -2 =7)[games]
Berthold Englisch11.5/17(+10 -4 =3)[games]
Siegbert Tarrasch11.5/17(+11 -5 =1)[games]
George Henry Mackenzie10/17(+7 -4 =6)[games]
Fritz Riemann9.5/17(+7 -5 =5)[games]
Emil Schallopp9.5/17(+9 -7 =1)[games]
Johannes Minckwitz9/17(+7 -6 =4)[games]
Johann Nepomuk Berger8/17(+1 -2 =14)[games]
Henry Edward Bird8/17(+7 -8 =2)[games]
Hermann von Gottschall6.5/17(+5 -9 =3)[games]
Jean Taubenhaus6.5/17(+5 -9 =3)[games]
Josef Noa5/17(+4 -11 =2)[games]
Arnold Schottlaender4/17(+0 -9 =8)[games]
Wilfried Paulsen4/17(+1 -10 =6)[games]
Martin Bier3.5/17(+2 -12 =3)[games]
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Chessgames.com Chess Event Description
Hamburg (1885)

The 4th Deutscher Schachkongress took place in Hamburg in 1885. It included the 4th Meisterturnier (master's tournament) organized by the Deutscher Schachbund (DSB); the first three were Leipzig (1879), Berlin (1881) and Nuremberg (1883).

Hamburg, German Empire, 13-25 July 1885

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 Gunsberg * 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 12 =2 Blackburne 0 * 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 11 =2 Mason 1 1 * 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 =2 Weiss * 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 =2 Englisch 0 1 * 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 =2 Tarrasch 0 0 1 1 0 * 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 7 Mackenzie 0 0 0 0 1 1 * 1 1 1 1 1 10 =8 Riemann 1 0 1 1 0 * 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 9 =8 Schallopp 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 * 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 9 10 von Minckwitz 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 * 0 1 1 1 1 9 =11 Berger 1 0 * 0 8 =11 Bird 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 * 0 1 1 1 1 1 8 =13 von Gottschall 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 * 0 1 1 0 1 6 =13 Taubenhaus 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 * 1 1 1 6 15 Noa 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 * 1 1 0 5 =16 Schottlaender 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 * 4 =16 Paulsen 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 * 4 18 Bier 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 * 3

Five games were unavailable: Taubenhaus - Schottlaender 1/2 (Round 1), Schallopp - Gunsberg 0-1 (Round 5), Blackburne - Mason 0-1 (Round 5), Bird - Bier 1-0 (Round 7), and Englisch - Bier 1-0 (Round 8).

As in the previous two editions the round robin tournament was an international event, pitting German masters against the best of Europe at the time. Germany was represented by its usual field of strong masters, including Wilfried Paulsen, Max Bier, Hermann von Gottschall, Johannes von Minckwitz, Fritz Reimann, Emil Schallopp, Arnold Schottlaender, and Siegbert Tarrasch who had won his spot by winning the Nuremberg Hauptturnier (1883) master title. The German masters were joined from Great Britain by Joseph Henry Blackburne, who was the winner at the second Deutscher Schachkongress in Berlin (1881), Henry Edward Bird, Isidor Gunsberg, George Henry Mackenzie, and James Mason. Berthold Englisch, the winner at the first Deutscher Schachkongress in Leipzig (1879), along with Johann Berger and Max Weiss came from Austria. Josef Noa travelled from Hungary, and Jean Taubenhaus came from Poland. The eighteen assembled chess masters participated in the single strongest international event of 1885. In spite of the presence of such strong competition, Isidor Gunsberg surprisingly took clear first place with 12 points out of 17 games. Five other players, all of them sure bets at the start of the tournament to win, tied for second place half a point behind Gunsberg. Gunsberg would go on to have impressive results in the latter half of the 1880s, including winning matches against Blackburne and Bird, before challenging Wilhelm Steinitz for the world championship in 1890. Although he would not win the world crown, Gunsberg proved himself here and later that he was one of the best chess players in the world in the 19th century.

The Hamburg Hauptturnier (1885) was won by Max Harmonist, qualifying him for DSB's 5th Meisterturnier in Frankfurt (1887).

Original collection: Game Collection: Hamburg 1885, by User: suenteus po 147.

 page 1 of 6; games 1-25 of 148  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Tarrasch vs J Noa 1-0471885HamburgC11 French
2. Gunsberg vs J Mason 0-1591885HamburgC11 French
3. Max Weiss vs Mackenzie 1-0611885HamburgC77 Ruy Lopez
4. Blackburne vs Mackenzie 1-0391885HamburgC45 Scotch Game
5. M Bier vs J Minckwitz  0-1291885HamburgC83 Ruy Lopez, Open
6. J N Berger vs J Minckwitz  ½-½261885HamburgC77 Ruy Lopez
7. Taubenhaus vs F Riemann ½-½411885HamburgA16 English
8. Von Gottschall vs F Riemann 0-1531885HamburgC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
9. Gunsberg vs A Schottlaender 1-0481885HamburgC22 Center Game
10. Englisch vs Tarrasch 1-0441885HamburgE76 King's Indian, Four Pawns Attack
11. J N Berger vs W Paulsen ½-½491885HamburgB43 Sicilian, Kan, 5.Nc3
12. W Paulsen vs M Bier ½-½491885HamburgC02 French, Advance
13. Englisch vs E Schallopp 0-1391885HamburgC77 Ruy Lopez
14. Blackburne vs Bird 1-0741885HamburgA81 Dutch
15. E Schallopp vs Max Weiss  0-1341885HamburgC32 King's Gambit Declined, Falkbeer Counter Gambit
16. Von Gottschall vs J Noa 1-0161885HamburgC11 French
17. J Mason vs Bird 1-0521885HamburgA80 Dutch
18. Tarrasch vs E Schallopp 1-0631885HamburgC45 Scotch Game
19. Von Gottschall vs Bird 1-0601885HamburgA00 Uncommon Opening
20. M Bier vs Gunsberg 0-1421885HamburgC83 Ruy Lopez, Open
21. J Noa vs Taubenhaus  0-1331885HamburgC77 Ruy Lopez
22. Blackburne vs F Riemann 1-0521885HamburgC45 Scotch Game
23. Englisch vs A Schottlaender 1-0401885HamburgD50 Queen's Gambit Declined
24. Mackenzie vs J Mason 0-1411885HamburgD05 Queen's Pawn Game
25. Max Weiss vs J N Berger  ½-½311885HamburgC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
 page 1 of 6; games 1-25 of 148  PGN Download
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Kibitzer's Corner
Jan-12-16  zanzibar: RE: missing Blackburne // Mason game:

<Even tournament books can be unreliable sources. The game that Blackburne lost to James Mason at Hamburg in 1885 is not in the book of the 4th German Federation Congress; the editors included a Blackburne win from another tournament by mistake. The correct game is still being sought.>

http://www.chessmail.com/research/b...

Apr-24-16  zanzibar: From the intro:

<Gunsberg proved himself here and later that he was one of the best chess players in the world in the 19th century>

Seems a bit too much of a claim. See here:

http://www.chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/...

No Gunsberg.

Maybe it the claim were restricted a little to less than the entire 18th century:

http://www.chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/...

Apr-24-16  zanzibar: Concerning the supposedly misattributed Mason--Blackburne game referred to in the 1st comment...

I'm curious, why didn't Harding say what tournament the game given in the Hamburg TB really belonged to?

Does anybody know?

And, given that the game presumably reflects a Mason--Blackburne encounter, if we don't know its proper attribution, what do we do with it?

Apr-25-16  zanzibar: Strike the above question, <Tab> answered it here:

Blackburne vs J Mason, 1885 (kibitz #7)

The game originally published in the <Hamburg (1885)> has the colors right, but the wrong result, since it belonged to the <Hereford (1885)> tournament. According to Harding, the only other complete source is <C-M v7 p40-41>. The Field also published the finish.

Still, I think Harding might include the above on the webpage, in addition to his Blackburne book.

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