October of 1908 saw Frank Marshall visit Poland, where he played in a triangular match with the top two players, Rubinstein and Salwe, in Lodz; and in October-November, an 8 game match versus Rubinstein, Rubinstein - Marshall (1908) (won by Rubinstein, 4.5 – 3.5, the same score as in their encounter at Lodz).
1 Rubinstein ******** =1==1001 011=1=== 9.5
2 Marshall =0==0110 ******** ==01===1 8
3 Salwe 100=0=== ==10===0 ******** 6.5
Andrew Soltis has pointed out in his book on Frank Marshall that Lodz 1908 would be a Category 13 event (average +2550) by today’s standards. Of all the tournaments held up to that time, only St. Petersburg (1895/96) was stronger.
The players took turns facing each other. We know the order of the Rubinstein - Marshall games, and the first Rubinstein – Salwe game, but we don’t know the order of the rest of the Rubinstein - Salwe games, nor the Marshall – Salwe games. We give the Rubinstein – Salwe games in the order in which they appear in Akiba Rubinstein: Uncrowned King by John William Donaldson and Nikolay N Minev. The order of the Marshall – Salwe games are taken from Dreimeisterkampf Marshall-Rubinstein-Salwe, gespielt in Lodz, October 1908 by Wolfgang Kubel. The Kubel book did not include the Rubinstein - Salwe games. One game score between Marshall and Salwe, game 6, is missing. It is known that it began with 1.d4 and ended in a draw.
Rubinstein received 400 rubles for his victory, Marshall 250, and Salwe 150.
N.B. Round numbers have been assigned based on the cross-table, color allocation, and known results to put the games into a more accurate version that has been done before. If dates are ever discovered, the order may be refined further.
Original collection: Game Collection: 1908 Lodz by User: TheFocus.
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|Nov-12-13|| ||TheFocus: This tournament was originally to be a quintangular one, with invitations sent also to Schlechter and Marco.|
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