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|Mar-02-13|| ||Tiggler: <jancotianno: I have to say I'm really surprised by Kramnik's results in the tournament, I thought he would win it.>|
Kramnik and Gelfand were gambling, while Anand and Caruana played conservatively. The results show which is the more profitable strategy. The opposite works better in Open Swiss tournaments, but in this company solid play is the only way to go.
|Mar-02-13|| ||FadeThePublic: Yeah, too bad Kramnik and Gelfand don't know as much tournament strategy as your mighty self there GM Tiggler.|
|Mar-02-13|| ||jancotianno: <Tiggler> I agree with your comment about solid play in this tournament, unfortunately many people will think it isn't the most attractive form of chess, something like the candidates should be brilliant to watch.|
|Mar-02-13|| ||LucB: <SNEO>
<And sure enough fanboy #21 answers the call>
You're not keeping count, are you? ;o)
|Mar-02-13|| ||LucB: <Kanatahodets>
<Both are not ethnic Russians>
Kramnik is not ethnic Russian?? News to me ...
|Mar-02-13|| ||Billy Vaughan: <Kinghunt: <Billy Vaughan> I think the comparison is naive at best. This is one of Caruana's best results ever. That was one of Carlsen's worst results ever. It's rather meaningless to cherry pick individual tournaments and then compare results.>|
I know that, of course ;). That's why I prefaced it as a piece of trivia, rather than a similarity that means anything.
|Mar-02-13|| ||perfidious: <Sokrates: ....It's a forum of free speech so anyone can write that Wesley So is the strongest player in the world....>|
He is. By far.
<....or that Kramnik and Anand are has-beens.....>
Haven't you learnt ANYthing from my brilliant commentaries here?
<....It is a pleasant contrast, however, to read some substantiated reasonings and arguments, and fortunately those who execute that good deed are still around.>
In all seriousness, it is indeed a good thing we have some of that, to counterbalance the flag-waving and fanboyism which appears all-pervading at times.
|Mar-02-13|| ||Refused: In all fairness, there was backlash on the So fans reasonable (yes, they exist) and unreasonable alike.
So got quite some bashing for his last round short draw in Reykjavik. Which was probably way harder than for any other GM, because of the annoying and unreasonable (trolling) half of his support.
Afterall it was a good result (maybe not flashy for some reasons), he passed the 2.700 mark, he finished second (shared first). Those are all quite remarkable achievements, but ofc. some other kibitzes took some joy into mentioning, that a 4 move draw is not what the real deal barracuda like creature would do.
That was a reasonable tournament decission between professionals.|
|Mar-02-13|| ||messachess: I don't know which is more remarkable, Caruana's success or Kramnik's failure. (I too thought Kramnik would win it (and that Caruana would be last. Anyone want to put some money on a horse that I know?)|
|Mar-02-13|| ||Tiggler: <FadeThePublic: Yeah, too bad Kramnik and Gelfand don't know as much tournament strategy as your mighty self there GM Tiggler.>|
I am not available to advise them, having already made commitments to another candidate"s competitor.
|Mar-02-13|| ||Tiggler: <Refused> Remarkable thing about So and his fans is that he has more fan support than any other player. And those same fans complain that he cannot attract sponsorship. Are all filipinos really penniless? Not an upwardly mobile consumer base with descretionary income? Don't they have offshore oil and fisheries to exploit? Maybe auction off a shoe collection? There must be some way that those fans could devise to make Wesley the most lavishly sponsored and <pampered> chessplayer in the world. Maybe they are just too mean to put their money where all their many loud mouths are.|
|Mar-02-13|| ||SugarDom: I pity the 4 great players above. Here is a tournament without any So in there, and yet they insist to discuss him in here.|
What an insult to these 4 great players.
|Mar-03-13|| ||SetNoEscapeOn: <LucB: <SNEO>
<And sure enough fanboy #21 answers the call>|
You're not keeping count, are you? ;o)>
I lump them all together. Any number would have sufficed.
|Mar-03-13|| ||FSR: An impressive victory for Caruana over a distinguished field. He must have enjoyed getting revenge for Anand's come-from-behind shocker in the GRENKE Chess Classic (2013). The kid is the real deal. Don't be surprised if he's world champion some day.|
|Mar-03-13|| ||Tiggler: <FSR> It could be sooner than most would think. I'd love to see a Carlsen-Caruana WC match in 2015 (2016?)|
|Mar-03-13|| ||FSR: <Tiggler> That would be great!|
|Mar-03-13|| ||FSR: <Phony Benoni: Those who think this tournament had a high percentage of draws might want to check out this (still incomplete) collection: Game Collection: Petrosian Memorial 1999>|
So that's what it looks like when you partie like it's 1999? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6...
|Mar-03-13|| ||anandrulez: I wanna see Caruana entering Carlson Levin level in terms of results . He is very talented.|
|Mar-03-13|| ||timbol: very pampered too.|
|Mar-03-13|| ||perfidious: <FSR> Tseshkovsky was the only player in the collection by <Phony Benoni> to have a game last as long as fifty moves, though it is incomplete. Lots of games under twenty moves, though.|
|Mar-03-13|| ||Mrcomputer55: I would like to see a Carlsen vs Anand match; Caruana will be there in two or three years he will the man to beat!|
|Mar-04-13|| ||Bartimaeus: Many congrats to Caruana on a fine tourney win against a distinguished field. He played strong, solid chess and he seems to have developed into a real contender for the throne. Should be interesting times on the world chess stage with this guy around.|
Anand seems to have had a decent tourney though there are still certain wrinkles that need to be ironed out. Overall, he seems to be on the road to recovery and hopefully, by the year end the old Anand would have transformed into the Anand of old.
Kramnik and Gelfand seem to have experimented with stuff and perhaps were a bit hampered in terms of lack of freedom in openings. They may not be very happy with their play in the last round which should provide some food for thought. Hopefully, it will motivate them and enable them to come all guns firing in the candidates.
Overall, a good tourney with some pretty interesting games.
|Mar-04-13|| ||sofouuk: <I don't think kramniks openings were the problem - with better luck and fewer blunders he could just as easily have ended up +2. the problem was the blunders, and it won't have helped his confidence going into the candidates|
|Mar-10-13|| ||moronovich: Was this a swiss tournament ?|
|Mar-25-13|| ||Hot Logic: <moronovich>
Was that a pun? :)
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