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|1. Tal vs Spassky
||½-½||37||1965||Spassky - Tal Candidates Final||C89 Ruy Lopez, Marshall|
|2. Spassky vs Tal
||0-1||40||1965||Spassky - Tal Candidates Final||B43 Sicilian, Kan, 5.Nc3|
|3. Tal vs Spassky
||0-1||66||1965||Spassky - Tal Candidates Final||C95 Ruy Lopez, Closed, Breyer|
|4. Spassky vs Tal
||½-½||23||1965||Spassky - Tal Candidates Final||E55 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3, Gligoric System, Bronstein Variation|
|5. Tal vs Spassky
||½-½||40||1965||Spassky - Tal Candidates Final||C89 Ruy Lopez, Marshall|
|6. Spassky vs Tal
|| ||½-½||70||1965||Spassky - Tal Candidates Final||B43 Sicilian, Kan, 5.Nc3|
|7. Tal vs Spassky
||½-½||53||1965||Spassky - Tal Candidates Final||C89 Ruy Lopez, Marshall|
|8. Spassky vs Tal
||½-½||25||1965||Spassky - Tal Candidates Final||E12 Queen's Indian|
|9. Tal vs Spassky
||0-1||70||1965||Spassky - Tal Candidates Final||C84 Ruy Lopez, Closed|
|10. Spassky vs Tal
||1-0||41||1965||Spassky - Tal Candidates Final||B50 Sicilian|
|11. Tal vs Spassky
||0-1||41||1965||Spassky - Tal Candidates Final||C84 Ruy Lopez, Closed||
|Dec-20-15|| ||offramp: The match was level after 8 games. If Tal had somehow managed to win he would have played Petrosian in 1966. I don't think he would have done very well. |
Although the Patrosian-Tal score up to that point was only 3-1 in TVP's favour (with 2 of those wins from Curaçao 1962, when Tal was a bit sick), Petrosian beat Spassky fairly easily in 1966 and I am certain he would have done even better against Tal.
|Oct-21-16|| ||plang: He won 4-3 in a 24 game match. How is that "fairly easily"?|
|Oct-21-16|| ||ewan14: Agreed, not fairly easy at all|
|Oct-21-16|| ||Nerwal: Because of how the match went I guess. Spassky never led and didn't win a single game in the first half of the match. When he eventually equalized Petrosian immediately struck back with two wins, and at 4-2 the outcome was set.
Of course a look at the games would give a completely different picture.|
|Oct-21-16|| ||Petrosianic: Right, the real score of that match was 4-2. Spassky's 3rd win was in what amounted to an exhibition game.|
Still, I wouldn't say that TVP won the match easily. It was a tough fight. Maybe "handily" would be a better word.
Spassky never again won a single game from Tal after this match, against 5 defeats.
|Oct-21-16|| ||Olavi: In fact the head to head was 9-2 after this match, Tal won 4 without defeats. The last game in this database is not a serious game.|
Petrosian - Spassky 1966 was 12-10 after 22 games, meaning that title wise it was over. The 23rd game was a bit of a joke. The 24rd was a hard fight though.
|Oct-21-16|| ||Petrosianic: You're right, 4. The 5th was a blitz game.|
|Oct-21-16|| ||Olavi: And I cheched, the 23rd game P-S -66, 31 moves, it took 2 hrs 18 minutes combined, out of the normal 5 hrs. I guess The Tiger had his mind on other things.|
|Oct-21-16|| ||Petrosianic: The champagne probably hadn't worn off from the night before. Still, you've got to give Spassky credit for fighting even when it was all over. When Botvinnik decided he didn't have a chance, he just played out matches with quick draws.|
|Oct-21-16|| ||ewan14: At 2 - 2 in 1966 Spassky got sunstroke and would not take a timeout!!|
|Oct-21-16|| ||ewan14: I thought Petrosian was not supposed to give up 2 point leads! |
although he did against Portisch as well
|Oct-21-16|| ||Petrosianic: Spassky was probably thinking in terms of maintaining momentum. Especially because Petrosian was the kind who often played for a draw right after a loss to try to regain his equilibrium. Spassky's plan was easy draw in Game 20, then try to take the lead in Game 21.|
Unfortunately, Petrosian knew that. According to Vasiliev's book, they resolved that he absolutely must not take a draw in Game 20 unless absolutely necessary.
The feeling was that after a long hard fight to equalize the scores, the dynamics of a match change, and people need to readjust. Smyslov did something similar in 1954. He was playing catch up, managed to do it, but didn't re-adjust his mindset, kept playing the same way, and fell behind again. Same thing in 1963. Botvinnik fought long and hard to equalize, and when he finally did, he lost the very next game.
|Oct-21-16|| ||Olavi: In 1966 Petrosian got 2000 dollars for the win and Spassky half of that. But of course those sums were completely nominal; instead, the privilegies were colossal. Just a couple of months later Spassky won 5000 dollars winning the Piatigorsky Cup, and he got to keep it, and he could exchange it for what it was really worth. He lived on it very well for a couple of years, as he later said.|
|Apr-09-17|| ||thegoodanarchist: <ewan14: At 2 - 2 in 1966 Spassky got sunstroke and would not take a timeout!!|
I can understand your viewpoint, but do not agree.
Spassky is famous for his gentlemanly sportsmanship. If what you say is true, then I think it is an example of the strength of that ethic in him.
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