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|May-16-13|| ||waustad: Congrats to Kreisl on the GM norm.|
|May-16-13|| ||niemzo: There is a 4 queen endgame right now at the top board in the final round in Nepo-Moiseenko.|
|May-16-13|| ||mistreaver: Wow what a finish, Ian Nepomniatchi beat Moiseenko and now we have 7 players with 8 points. What is going to happen now?|
|May-16-13|| ||niemzo: It didn't last long. Black had some checks but with the extra knight defending there was really no way to reach a perpetual. Excellent game by Nepo which allowed him to tie for first in the tournament. There is a massive tie for first place, so we have to wait to learn who won on tiebreaks.|
|May-16-13|| ||niemzo: The regulation say that rating performance is the first tiebreak. I have no idea who is ahead and don't really want to calculate. We just have to wait for an official announcement.|
|May-16-13|| ||niemzo: I think it's Alekseev who has the better RP.|
|May-16-13|| ||mistreaver: If what i saw on chessresults is correct, Moiseenko is still first, Romanov second and Beliavsky third, with performance ratings respectively : 2762, 2755, 2750|
|May-16-13|| ||Eyal: There are no less than 10 players who share first place with 8 points: Dreev, Melkumyan, Alekseev, Romanov, Vallejo-Pons, Lupulescu, Moiseenko, Nepomniachtchi, Beliavski & Movsesian (the last two don't appear at the moment in the table above because one of their games is still missing from the database). I donít see yet the final table at chess results, but if the tiebreak is indeed the average rating of the players' opponents (not including that of the lowest-rated), as I mentioned in my previous post, I think the winner by tiebreak should be Moiseenko Ė after the 10th round the only one who had a better tiebreak than him was Tkachiev, who lost today, and he played today against one of the highest-rated players (Nepomniachtchi).|
|May-16-13|| ||virginmind: Ten players sharing first place, now that's something you don't often see...congratulations to all of them!|
|May-16-13|| ||Eyal: ...And according to the final round results there are 16 more players who finished with 7.5 points - I think 15 of them should make it to the world cup, since Vallejo-pons and Dreev (who are among those who finished with 8) already qualified from the European Championship of last year.|
|May-16-13|| ||geeker: I'm confused...have been following this tournament on TWIC, whose coverage shows that "Big Al" Beliavsky should be among the leading group with 8 points.|
Very happy to see Dreev and Beliavsky doing well; I own and enjoy both players' books of selected games!
|May-16-13|| ||geeker: Oh...thanks to <Eyal>, who I see pointed out that a Beliavsky game is missing from this site.|
|May-16-13|| ||Eyal: Actually, I see that the missing game - his last round win over Laznicka (Beliavsky vs V Laznicka, 2013) - has already been downloaded, so his name should appear on the table any minute now:-)|
|May-16-13|| ||alexmagnus: Bzw, what's with those who qualified both ways, from 2012 and 2013 ECC? Do the "missing" spots get filled up with rating qualifiers or what?|
|May-16-13|| ||alexmagnus: There are two such players btw, Vallejo and Dreev.|
|May-16-13|| ||Eyal: Yes, I already mentioned Vallejo and Dreev as qualifiers from 2012 in a previous post; in 2011, when there was a similar case with 2010 qualifiers, the spots were given to the next in line from the championship itself. Actually, there might be 3 "open" spots, depending on the status of Nepo, who's a second rating reserve (http://www.fide.com/component/conte... ), and so could qualify that way as well (we know that from the official list of qualifiers at least Anand, Aronian & Kramnik won't play).|
|May-16-13|| ||wtwz: <Eyal: at least Anand, Aronian & Kramnik won't play>|
Actually both Aronian and Kramnik will play in the next World Cup because according to the new regulations, a player can qualify for the next Candidates tournament by rating if and only if they participate in the World Cup or Grand Prix.
Source: http://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/r... ("A player can qualify by rating only if he/she participates in the World Cup 2013 or the FIDE Grand Prix 2012-2013")
|May-16-13|| ||Eyal: <wtwz> Ok, thanks - I missed that (actually I remember now that Kramnik said something in his long interview to chess-news after the Candidates about playing in the world cup); so I guess at the moment only Giri is guaranteed a place as a rating reserve (instead of Anand). Though it's very likely that at least one more from the list won't play eventually - for example, Topalov if he manages to qualify from the Grand Prix in his next two tournaments, which take place before the world cup.|
|May-16-13|| ||alexmagnus: So, Istratescu and Zvjaginsev get the spots?|
|May-16-13|| ||Eyal: Well, I haven't seen any official announcement yet, but it seems the most likely according to how things were managed the last time.|
|May-16-13|| ||twinlark: <a player can qualify for the next Candidates tournament by rating if and only if they participate in the World Cup or Grand Prix.>|
Good idea. Now if only they would do away with the whole idea of nominees, especially to the Candidates.
|May-17-13|| ||Eyal: Btw, the chessvibes report (http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/m...) also says they assume Zvjaginsev and Istratescu have qualified as well. If that's the case, here's a list of all the 46 qualifiers for the world cup from this and last year's championships, according to countries:|
- 19 from Russia: Jakovenko, Andreikin, Vitiugov, Malakhov, Nepomniachtchi, Riazantsev, Alekseev, Inarkiev, Zvjaginsev, Dreev, Matlakov, Khismatullin, Kobalia, Lysyj, Romanov, Shimanov, Najer, Dubov, Popov.
- 8 from Ukraine: Areshchenko, Korobov, Eljanov, Moiseenko, Volokitin, Fedorchuk, Kryvoruchko, Kravtsiv.
- 3 from Armenia: Akopian, Movsesian, Melkumyan.
- 3 from France: Bacrot, Fressinet, Istratescu.
- 1 from Georgia (Jobava), Spain (Vallejo Pons), Moldova (Bologan), Austria (Ragger), Netherlands (Smeets), England (Jones), Israel (Postny), Romania (Lupulescu), Belarus (Azarov), Slovenia (Beliavski), Czech Republic (Hracek), Azerbaijan (Durarbayli) & Italy (Brunello) each.
|May-17-13|| ||twinlark: It's interesting seeing Fedorchuk qualifying for the World Cup, only his second such. He tends to stay on the open circuit.|
|May-17-13|| ||hellopolgar: IMPRESSIVE performance from the 60-year-old Alexander Beliavsky|
|May-19-13|| ||FSR: The 10-way tie for first is close to, but not, a world record. There was a 13-way tie for first at 5-1 in the 2000 National Open. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...|
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