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|Nov-05-13|| ||pankajdaga: <Maybe you hope that because you have a indian nickname?>
I support of him, of course as I have been following his exploits for a long time.|
<Nobody "written off" Anand..But you gotta be blind to <not> think Carlsen is the favorite on this one (that doesn't mean he's going to win for sure)..>
Seems so, if you read some of the posts here. Carlsen is the favourite and my wishes for a win for Anand is not based on an objective opinion. Like I said, I hope the old man pulls a final bunny out of his hat.
|Nov-05-13|| ||N0B0DY: has "written off" Anand. There seems little likelihood of the Indian tiger ending up as a bedside rug.|
|Nov-05-13|| ||thegoodanarchist: <Skakalec: 10 games is too short, 20 games is too long. I vote for 16.>|
A while back I asked GM Keene how long he thought the WC match should be.
He said 16, because only once in history did the lead change hands after 16 or more games.
But if you are in your early 20s and playing a skinny little weakling you should ask for the terms to be first to 6 wins, draws not counting, so you can wear out your opponent after 40+ grueling games.
|Nov-05-13|| ||thegoodanarchist: < nolanryan: who won today? i can't find results anywhere>|
I won today. I was playing blitz on line and took 3 out of 4
|Nov-05-13|| ||Chessinfinite: Garry Kasparov on Anand- Carlsen:
<I am about to head to India, where I will first speak at the THiNK conference in Goa before heading to Chennai to visit the much-anticipated world championship match between defending champion Viswanathan Anand, playing in his native city, and young Norwegian challenger Magnus Carlsen.
I won’t be there for the first game of the match on the 9th, but will arrive for games three and four before heading further east with Ignatius Leong on my first tour of Asian chess federations as part of my campaign for the presidency of the international chess federation, FIDE.
I am very familiar with both players, for different reasons, and of course I could not miss this spectacle. Anand was one of my top rivals for what I could call the second half of my chess career if I break it into “Karpov” and “post-Karpov” eras. As the great Anatoly finally slowed, Anand was one of the leaders of the new generation to challenge me at top events like Linares, along with Ivanchuk and Kramnik, to name but two others.
Anand would not wait long before challenging me in a world championship match, in 1995. And everyone realized that despite that loss to me in New York he would be a powerful force for many years to come – although I doubt even Vishy imagined then it would be quite so long! Young tigers do not think decades ahead. When I retired in 2005, I reminded Anand that now he was the “old man” of the circuit, fighting off the kids like Carlsen who were born in the same decade Vishy and I faced off high atop the World Trade Center.
This is one of the most anticipated matches in recent history and it is no insult to Anand, whose credentials are beyond doubt, that most of the anticipation circles around the 22-year-old challenger.
Magnus Carlsen rocketed to the top of the rating list almost without pause, displaying a consistency and tenacity rare in a young player to accompany his limitless talent.
Many gifted youngsters play impressive games; it was Carlsen’s will to win that set him apart. And though I was not exactly looking for a job as a coach when we worked together for a year in 2009, how could I resist? >
|Nov-05-13|| ||Chessinfinite: … Contd from above
< I am no bearded Dumbledore, but it was impossible not to see Magnus as a type of Harry Potter, a super-talent destined to become one the greatest and to leave a deep mark (a lightning bolt?) on our ancient game. Carlsen enters the match as the obvious favorite despite his inexperience simply based on how superior his chess performance of the past few years has been to that of Anand, who has declined from his peak in every observable way. Nor can history be ignored. Carlsen is exactly half Anand’s age and the new generation is rarely turned back.
But when I was asked at my Stanford appearance last Sunday if I thought the match would be a walkover for Carlsen, my answer was emphatically negative. Carlsen is the favorite because results and objective quality must matter, but it will not be easy and it is not difficult to imagine a scenario in which he loses the match. Anand has deep experience at every level and that carries with it practical preparation advantages as well as psychological preparedness. According to Anand, he has been working very hard for this match, harder than ever in his life.
And while the world champion has never given much attention to matters of chess history or his legacy, he must know that his entire career will gain an extraordinary new dimension should he defeat the Norwegian wunderkind against the odds. Plus, Anand is playing at home, and while this can create negative pressure it is also a very powerful motivational force. It is much harder to end a training session when you know the eyes of a billion Indians will be on you! And with deep preparation there is always the chance of a powerful surprise or two, and in such a short match (just 12 games), an early shock could tip the match.
Some have suggested my rooting loyalties should lie with my fellow “old man,” Anand, and not with the 22-year-old who broke my rating record and who will share my record as youngest world champion ever should he prevail in Chennai. But while I cannot say I feel joy when one of my records falls, a win for Carlsen will also be a win for the chess world. Changing of the guard, new blood, a fresh face – all these clichés are clichés for a reason. Magnus is a dynamic young man eager to promote the sport, to raise its profile along with his own, and who can inspire a new generation of chess kids (and chess sponsors!) around the world.
Anand is a fantastic chessplayer who brings honor to the sport and to his nation with his skill and his boundless good nature. If he wins this match his high place on chess Olympus is assured. I am predicting a Carlsen victory because of his talent, his results, and the tides of chess history. I am rooting for a Carlsen victory because a new generation deserves a new champion. Most of all, I am hoping for big games, a hard fight, and a great boost for chess around the world as a legend and a legend in the making do battle in Chennai. >
Regards to the great 13th World Champion and best wishes!
|Nov-05-13|| ||Blunderdome: GK trying to dismiss the Dumbledore comparisons again.|
|Nov-06-13|| ||talisman: GK...ya running for president?...i'm voting for ya...ya talking bout Vishay...KEEP YA MOUTH SHUT BAY BAY!|
|Nov-06-13|| ||MTuraga: A very balanced narration of pre-match expectations by Garry Kasparov which agrees with a lot of fans. Carlsen is expected to win but it will not be one-sided. A great match is in store for chess world. Waiting for it to begin....|
|Nov-06-13|| ||HeMateMe: <It is much harder to end a training session when you know the eyes of a billion Indians will be on you!>|
Unless, of course, there's a cricket match on the telley.
I wish Kaspy would have gone into specifics, perhaps described some hypothetical positions which favor one side over the other. Perhaps because he worked with MC (for a very short time) he feels it inappropriate to talk about openings.
Nonetheless, some more meat about the middle game and endgames would have been interesting. Who makes more errors in the middle game? who is the better endgame player? If it is GK talking, I'll listen.
|Nov-06-13|| ||RookFile: One of the most clutch wins in World Chess Championship history:|
Topalov vs Anand, 2010
|Nov-06-13|| ||Sokrates: Thank you, <Chessinfinite> for this very interesting GK reference. Agree with <MTuraga> that GK's valuation is balanced. He pays both players their due and rightly so. They are both magnificent in their own way. In a couple of days - we can hardly wait, can we? - all speculations and predictions will come to an end and hard reality will decide at the board. One thing I "know" for certain: it will be an unforgettable match in chess history.|
|Nov-06-13|| ||whiteshark: <Probability that Anand wins: < 3.0% >> acc2 http://www.chessbase.com/Home/TabId...|
|Nov-06-13|| ||Bureaucrat: <condition: https://sports.bwin.com/en/sports/6...
I DO NOT RECOMMEND a bet with BWIN.
The max bet allowed is £80
Real hassle withdrawing
they take 3% of winnings
pretty much sucks- google Bwin
Hey <condition>, I never heard about that site before, and if I put some money on the match it will be somewhere else, so don't worry. I just copied the link from another post to show the odds. I haven't checked the odds at other sites yet. :-)
|Nov-06-13|| ||Bureaucrat: Just checked Unibet: Carlsen 1.25, Anand 3.50.
That means Anand must win 29% or more for a bet on him to be profitable. I think his actual chances are much lower.
|Nov-06-13|| ||puzzlion: The somewhat shrewd and opportunistic playing style or the lazy but slightly uneven genius will not hold water against the approach of his otherwordly talented (if a tad lethargic) opponent, who is also known for a certain unpredictability of form and a certain perspicacious opportunism. The world will be baffled by a long row of super-boring short draws, which in turn will draw the prestige of chess as a sport down into the gutter, from where it will never completely recover. This will be of no consequence, however! In the invincible space ship monitoring the earth, the aliens will think of this battle of the greatest human minds as the last in a long row of offenses against their intelligence and against the overall creation of the universe and everything, and finally recommend the planet for the long in galactic circles awaited annihilation. The earth is annihilated right before the tie-break, despite a vehement protest from FIDE and Kirsan (with whom the aliens had maintained an informal contact for some time). Just my 2 cents.|
|Nov-06-13|| ||Appaz: <<puzzlion> The earth is annihilated right before the tie-break>|
You should bet all you own: with the odds you probably get on this, you can live in luxury for the rest of your life if you win!
|Nov-06-13|| ||Appaz: Even the nerds have the right focus this week: http://games.slashdot.org/story/13/...|
|Nov-06-13|| ||Chessinfinite: Both players have checked into their hotel rooms and the pre-battle phase is reaching its climax !. |
Hopefully they will reveal their full team of seconds before the first round on Sat.
Thanks to <KKDEREK> for posting link to GK comments earlier.
|Nov-06-13|| ||abiogenesis23: Carlsen showed that he is not impervious to pressure at the Candidates, and ALL of the pressure at this WC match is on him. Anand knows that the chess world will not be surprised if Carlsen wins, so he has no pressure. His immense match experience along with having far less pressure will allow him to maintain the WC title. Carlsen will have to earn it later on.|
|Nov-06-13|| ||tjipa: Sveshnikov on Carlsen's endgames (in Russian, yet the samples and analysis are clear without translation): http://chesspro.ru/card_index/svesh... Sobering stuff!|
|Nov-06-13|| ||FamilyTree: Those stupid aliens will be flying over Chennai during the match, checking every move with their 32-piece tablebases and laughing about how we humans suck at chess.
Hopefully they won't have a mechanical malfunction and end up crashing their ship right into the playing venue and ruining everything...|
|Nov-06-13|| ||Poulsen: <Sokrates><One thing I "know" for certain: it will be an unforgettable match in chess history>|
Indeed. In my mind this is THE most important and interesting match since the K vs K clash in the 80'es.
It has the potential of making af major shift in the chess world. This can very likely become the last Wch-match, that involves a player, that had his chesseducation in the golden age of chess - before computers took over, the Wall fell etc...
This match can end an era.
This match has the potential to revitalize chess as a sport, but by ending an era the opposite can also happen. Much depends on, how Carlsen would react to having this final title, should he win the match. Will he play on?
This is a match between youth and age.
A match between the master of preparation against a master, that is inherently difficult to prepare against.
A match between a fast calculating chessmind and someone that "feels" the game. It's almost like the Stefan Zweig novel all over again.
A match between 2 of the most talented players of all time.
A match that has the potential to become very very hard fought, but also has the potential to become a very one-sided affair.
After this we will be thrilled - or very disappointed.
|Nov-06-13|| ||SirRuthless: <abiogenesis23> <keypushr> will be along to abuse you shortly for sharing that statement of fact. He abuses me whenever I even mention the minor chokefest that was the final rounds of Candidates 2013.|
|Nov-06-13|| ||Bobwhoosta: Anand has long been my second favorite player, Carlsen my first favorite. I am almost in a dream seeing them meet for the first time. It will most definitely be a clash of the titans, one that I hope will release Anand from his burden and invigorate him towards new and exciting chess.|
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