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|Sep-12-14|| ||Everett: Like both players, rooting for Anand. No predictions.|
|Sep-12-14|| ||Reisswolf: I like Anand a lot too.
Unfortunately for him, Carlsen is much too strong an opponent, for him or anyone else.
|Sep-12-14|| ||HeMateMe: I predict that Anand will win a game this match. Carlsen's focus will waver just a bit this match, relaxed because he is champion. Vishy will pick up one game, but lose the match.|
Challengers dissed? I think Shirov belongs in that category. Kaspy never played a match with him, or gave him the promised $200,000 compensation for not getting the loser's share of the prize fund.
|Sep-24-14|| ||Ke2: Here's a theory, I think this is going to be a bloody match. Anand's typical approach of "bore them to death and play the semi slav" i.e. Gelfand will doom him against Carlsen. We may see things from Anand's early days, this could really be a great match.|
|Sep-24-14|| ||Ke2: But he'll have to survive positional torture. Like in Aronian vs Anand, 2014. And he may have to deal with that Berlin Wall.|
|Sep-24-14|| ||PhilFeeley: We need an Anand - Carlsen WCC Match 2014 page now. <CG.com>?|
|Sep-27-14|| ||MissScarlett: <Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa will inaugurate the FIDE World Chess Championship Match 2013 on Thursday at a grand function at Nehru Indoor Stadium in Chennai.>|
<One of India's most colourful and controversial politicians, Jayaram Jayalalitha, has been sentenced to jail for four years on corruption charges in a case that has lasted for 18 years.
The chief minister of the southern state of Tamil Nadu was found guilty of amassing wealth of more than $10m (£6.1m) which was unaccounted for.>
|Oct-16-14|| ||vkk: Anand did try to get the semi slav positions that he is most comfortable with in 2013, but carlsen played some gambit which unsettled him. |
also semi slav positions are very complicated, aggressive lines for black.
check out kramnik anand Wch games where anand wins with semi slav.
|Oct-16-14|| ||spinal pat: <PhilFeeley: We need an Anand - Carlsen WCC Match 2014 page now. CG.com?> I concur!|
|Oct-16-14|| ||Arihant: Things have not been hyped yet...there is perceptible lack of excitement in the air.....if its really the World Chess Championship we used to follow so earnestly..or have things changed?|
|Nov-07-14|| ||chessvcr: My heart says yes he can do it. Then I go through game 3 and 6, mind says, no he can't do it against magnus. He is a champion of those endgame.|
|Nov-12-14|| ||dumbgai: <HeMateMe: I predict that Anand will win a game this match. Carlsen's focus will waver just a bit this match, relaxed because he is champion.>|
|Nov-25-14|| ||visayanbraindoctor: This World Championship match may turn out to be a defining moment in a long reign of a dominant champion. Magnus Carlsen.|
There isn't any younger player who seems to play chess at his level.
There are similarities between the conditions today and in 1975. Young toothpick thin Anatoly Karpov had just become the world champion. He was a positional juggernaut, employing a novel brand of chess that looked puzzlingly peaceful yet profoundly unbeatable, mowing down very strong Candidates (Polugaevesky, Spassky, Korchnoi) in hectic nerve wracking matches. There was nobody else in the horizon who could play chess near his level at all. In any tournament that he entered, it was an almost forgone conclusion that the real fight would be for second place. It could be safely assumed that he would win, barring exceptional circumstances.
Karpov was an exceptional champion, a chess anomaly. He was dethroned by another exceptional champion, another chess anomaly, the Titan of Tactics Garry Kasparov. But in 1975, few people knew about Kasparov at all. He was just a 12 year old kid.
Many kibitzers who grew up in the Karpov era may still vaguely remember the aura of invincibility that Karpov carried around with him. It was as though he would reign forever. And what if Kasparov never was born? Karpov may well have ruled the chess world until the year 2000.
Is that possible for Carlsen? A 25 year reign?
Way back in 1894, another exceptional chess world champion grabbed the Title from Steinitz. Emanuel Lasker. No one today was alive then, but to the chess world, he must have carried the same essence of invincibility that Karpov later and Carlsen now possesses.
One major difference is that no one did rise up to Lasker's level for a long long time. It took another chess anomaly, Capablanca, to end his reign in 1921, 27 years later. And if Capa was never born, Lasker may well have reigned until 1925.
Carlsen may just keep on ruling the chess world a long long time if no other chess anomaly arrives over rainbow's end. Food for thought.
|Nov-25-14|| ||Xenon Oxide: Actually, I think Carlsen already has his Kasparov -- Caruana. Yes I may be jumping the gun a bit, but I think all signs point to an epic rivalry across their careers. If so, it might even surpass Karpov-Kasparov -- after all, Karpov and Kasparov had a few years of age difference, while Carlsen and Caruana are exactly the same age, meaning that their peaks would coincide exactly. It promises to be an epic rivalry.|
|Nov-25-14|| ||chancho: Unless someone steps up big in the next candidates, Anand could potentially win it again.|
Carlsen Anand III is not out of the realm of possibility.
|Nov-25-14|| ||Petrosianic: The World of Possibility is a pretty big world.|
|Nov-25-14|| ||Petrosianic: <Way back in 1894, another exceptional chess world champion grabbed the Title from Steinitz. Emanuel Lasker. No one today was alive then, but to the chess world, he must have carried the same essence of invincibility that Karpov later and Carlsen now possesses.>|
Eventually, yes. At the time there was considerable discussion about whether Lasker was really good enough, or whether he had just won the title from an aging champion ahead of more deserving candidates, like Tchigorin or Tarrasch.
|Nov-25-14|| ||perfidious: <visayan: Many kibitzers who grew up in the Karpov era may still vaguely remember the aura of invincibility that Karpov carried around with him.>|
More than vaguely--it was an upset when he failed to carry off first prize in an event.
<It was as though he would reign forever. And what if Kasparov never was born? Karpov may well have ruled the chess world until the year 2000.>
None of the young guns of his generation ever looked anything like taking away the crown; as you say, only the extraordinary Kasparov and the ageless Korchnoi were serious threats to the Karpov hegemony.
|Dec-03-14|| ||SetNoEscapeOn: <None of the young guns of his generation ever looked anything like taking away the crown; as you say, only the extraordinary Kasparov and the ageless Korchnoi were serious threats to the Karpov hegemony.>|
Well, there was the match with Nigel Short. He could have remained champion, but most likely he would have been knocked off sometime in the 1990's. Kasparov lost to Kramnik; there are several people that <could have> beaten Karpov.
|Dec-03-14|| ||perfidious: <NoEscape> Nigel Short was hardly of the same generation chesswise as Karpov--fourteen years' difference in age is rather large, and Karpov's body of work in matches was exceptionally good, with Kasparov the only player besting him, and the margin of victory overall close.|
Twice Karpov defeated Korchnoi by the odd point, then won a third match in decisive fashion. As for Kramnik, after defeating Kasparov in 2000, what then? He survived his match with Leko by the narrowest of margins and, unlike Kasparov in the 1990s, was primus inter pares overall. If that makes Kramnik a greater player than Kasparov, what is greatness, really?
|Dec-04-14|| ||SetNoEscapeOn: <perfidious>
My apologies: I misquoted your post. I meant to respond to the idea that Karpov would have remained champion until 2000. It's possible, but I don't think it's very likely.
To be clear: I don't think that Kramnik is a greater player than Kasparov. I think the 2000 London match shows how difficult it is to keep defending your title again and again against new, hungry opponents. I just as easily could have used another example. Kasparov managed five straight title defenses; it's unlikely Karpov would have managed eight. Especially given the reality of his match with Nigel Short.
I do think you are selling Kramnik way short with your description of his post 2000 accomplishments. They stand up well in a comparison to Karpov's career after the Kasparov matches, especially if you allow for the period of Kramnik's illness.
|Dec-05-14|| ||perfidious: <NoEscape> No problem there.|
I agree that it is very unlikely that Karpov should have stayed in the catbird seat all the way through 2000 if no Kasparov had appeared; after all, with conditions completely in his favour, he barely managed to defeat Anand in the FIDE final.
It is most unfortunate that we shall never know what Kramnik might have achieved without his illness. To remain a top GM despite this handicap is no mean achievement.
|Dec-05-14|| ||chancho: <Viswanathan Anand @vishy64theking · Dec 2
Off to london after a brief respite in chennai. The weather in chennai has been awesome. Now bring out the woollens christmas and chess.>|
Good to see Anand in such high spirits.
He seems none the worse for wear after the Sochi match.
|Dec-05-14|| ||beenthere240: Chess does strange things to minds. Carlsen could easily go off the deep end and devote his life to football.|
|Dec-05-14|| ||chancho: Or modeling... :-)|
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