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|Feb-07-14|| ||parmetd: why would you not include Anand, Kramnik and Carlsen...|
|Feb-07-14|| ||SirRuthless: Congrats to Cheparinov for a well played event and a special finish!|
|Feb-07-14|| ||diagonal: <ikipemiko: Ivanchuk played far better players. Cheparinov also said afterwards that the real deserved winner should be Chucky> Fair estimation by Chepa to Chucky!|
The tournaments rules for tie-break here are really weird:
<The playoff system when there are three players in Gibraltar is hard to explain. One players gets to 'sit out' and wait for the winner of the other two players in the finals, but this isn't done by a tournament tiebreak or any other method, its just luck. This seems unfair to Ivanchuk especially as he had by far the most impressive performance solidly holding board one throughout the event.> Alejandro Ramirez, reporting for chessbase.
If you have an uneven number of players (and you don't want to play a mini-tournament each all, obviously with the possibility / probability that at last still all or some players had the same amounts of points again), then the two seeded players for a final encounter should be decided by the TPR, the tournament performance rating of a player, at least if other plausible and measurable criteria (as number of played rounds, Vitiugov for instance opted for a time-out in round 7 with a bye half-point free, or number of wins, number of wins with black) can not decide.
Or you declare all shared first as winners, such as frequently happened in chess tournaments in earlier times.
It's hard to believe that in the year of 2014 and digital era, a chess tournament (and prize sharing) is according to the rules decided deliberately by luck, the drawing of lots! In other sports, this would cause an upset.
The notorious roulette ball from the Candidates at Velden in 1983 should have learned the chess organisers better options than solutions by hazard.
|Feb-07-14|| ||perfidious: <diagonal: The notorious roulette ball from the Candidates at Velden in 1983 should have learned the chess organisers better options than solutions by hazard.>|
Quite so; thirty years on and foolish organisers still haven't got a frigging clue.
|Feb-07-14|| ||theodor: EVALA CHEP!|
|Feb-08-14|| ||PhilFeeley: <diagonal> If they were playing a rapids play-off, why wasn't it round robin? With only 3, even 2 games each would have been easy.|
This tie-break was weird. As Cheparinov said, the real winner was Ivanchuk. I hope they change this tie-break system next year. TPR is used in a lot of events. Why didn't they just go with that?
|Feb-08-14|| ||Hercules Unchained: Wow PhilFeeley, you seem really upset by Chepa`s win. Relax bro Chepa is the man. He needed the win more than anyone else. Fate knows its job and this is only the beginning for Cheparinov so get used to it.|
|Feb-08-14|| ||messachess: <KingchecksQueen: <Who is the Greatest among the 3 according to your criteria?> Vote now.|
Karpov------- ----------1 vote>
This is about right. Kasparov and Fischer could switch places, probably should: Fischer did it all on his own.--no computers then either. His relatively short career skews the judgement somewhat. Karpov should have more votes, at least 2, maybe 3. He was truly great.
|Feb-08-14|| ||Bob Loblaw: Both Ivanchuk and Vitiugov are stronger players than Cheparinov. You simply can't go thru a gruelling last round game then a match against one of the strongest players in the world then do your best against a rested player. Drawing lots should never be used at the end of a tournament. The organizers of the Tradewise tourney should have used a three way playoff format to decide first place - a round robin rapid, perhaps. Cheparinov would have come in third on a S-B tie break. He benefitted from the Swiss Gambit. Chucky and the Iceman were robbed.|
|Feb-08-14|| ||PhilFeeley: <Bob> Agreed. <HU> Disagree.|
|Feb-09-14|| ||ikipemiko: <Bob Loblaw: Both Ivanchuk and Vitiugov are stronger players than Cheparinov>
Chucky - of course, Vitiugov - simply no.|
|Feb-09-14|| ||Boomie: <ikipemiko: <Bob Loblaw: Both Ivanchuk and Vitiugov are stronger players than Cheparinov> Chucky - of course, Vitiugov - simply no.>|
Vitiugov is younger than Chep and rated 60 points higher. By what criteria are you saying he is not stronger?
|Feb-09-14|| ||botevist: Chuky had a great tournament and deserved the win. But didn't win. Chaparinov did. Now suck it up, people. All the coulda-shoulda-wouldas are pointless.|
|Feb-10-14|| ||parmetd: all 3 won. period. end of story. Next.|
|Feb-11-14|| ||KingchecksQueen: <messachess> I interpret your comment as a Fischer vote. Thanks.|
Kasparov ------6 votes
*1 vote per kibitzer
|Feb-16-14|| ||Everett: <This is about right. Kasparov and Fischer could switch places, probably should: Fischer did it all on his own.>|
No he didn't. He assiduously procured all the Soviet chess analysis materials he could get his hands on. In the magazines the Soviets offered up their way of thinking, their top suggestions, their chess culture, in the only viable format available at the time. He also has Euwe (who switched the tourney to matches for Fischer), Benko (for shortening the qualification process for Fischer by gifting his spot), and Spassky (for being such a gentleman) to thank. And despite being a jackass (or because of it), everyone in the chess world wanted him to win. This is not "doing it alone."
As far as this little popularity contest, Karpov was hardly a slave to chess, and took it as it came, yet was on top, beating everyone, for years and years. At 45 (with seconds like Ron Henley) he was still a beast, when Kasparov at the same age was retired for 3 years, Fischer for 15.
I cast one vote, split amongst all the famous chess players, and remain ever amused by supposed knowledgeable chess fans who forever underrate Karpov.
And it is not a surprise that Karpov has shifted so smoothly into the public and private realms after leaving chess. Chess indeed does mirror life in ways, and Karpov was ever the master of pragmatically going with the flow OTB.
|Feb-17-14|| ||perfidious: <Everett> Dr Euwe only became FIDE president in 1970; Folke Rogard was at the helm in the aftermath of Curacao.|
|Feb-17-14|| ||Everett: <perfidious> Thanks for the correction. I misremembered something Seirawan stated in Chess Duels, that Euwe really wanted Fischer to make it to the Championship. I though Euwe was influential with the change from tournament to match formats.|
|Mar-29-14|| ||offramp: Wow!
I've just seen that Maserati, the Modenese garage, repair centre and car-maker, has brought out a new family car called the Maserati Giblet.
It is a bit pricey at £7,232 but as a special prize at Gibletcom's annual tournament what could be more appropriate?
|Mar-29-14|| ||waustad: I was thinking that it must have a lot of heart, but then saw that it's really called the Maserati Ghibli.|
|Mar-30-14|| ||offramp: In some Indonesian languages ghible means pooh-pooh so they are using the name Maserati Giblet.|
When you buy it for nearly €8,000 it arrives with a boot-load of giblets!
Quite funny, unless delivery is delayed by a fortnight.
|Apr-18-14|| ||offramp: As a tribute to the victory of Cheparinov and Ivanchuk I have just bought a colossal turkey. I have thrown away the carcass and my family & I are only going to eat the 16kg of boiled giblets.|
|Jan-25-15|| ||Mr 1100: Has the ChessGames.com page for this year's Tradewise Gibraltar Chess Festival been opened yet?|
I expect Topalov will be favourite to win. Given Caruana's current rating, I wouldn't be surprised if Topalov rises up to the second spot in the world rankings. He might even stay there for a little while – I wouldn't be surprised if Caruana is "saving prep" for the Grands Prix. Then again, Caruana might do really well at Baden-Baden and Zurich - he could just qualify for Candidates '16 on rating alone. Chinese wunderkind Wei Yi will also be one to watch.
|Jan-25-15|| ||cro777: The 2015 Tradewise Gibraltar Chess Festival has just started with the opening simuls given by Salome Melia and Jovanka Houska.|
The Opening Ceremony is tomorrow (Monday 26th). Round 1 of the Masters tournament starts on Tuesday (January 27th) at 15:00 local time.
Rating favorites are Veseslin Topalov, Hikaru Nakamura and Peter Svidler. Immediately after the Tata Steel tournament, Hou Yifan and Wei Yi, the winner of Tata Steel Challengers, are also participating.
|Jan-25-15|| ||cro777: Jovanka Houska: "Well, that was a tough simul!!! Quite pleased to have finished on 8.5/10!"|
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