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FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - Mansiysk Tournament

Yifan Hou8.5/11(+6 -0 =5)[games]
Olga Girya7/11(+5 -2 =4)[games]
Alexandra Kosteniuk6.5/11(+4 -2 =5)[games]
Kateryna Alexandrovna Lagno6/11(+2 -1 =8)[games]
Anna Muzychuk6/11(+3 -2 =6)[games]
Nana Dzagnidze5.5/11(+4 -4 =3)[games]
Antoaneta Stefanova5.5/11(+2 -2 =7)[games]
Zhao Xue5/11(+3 -4 =4)[games]
Anna Ushenina5/11(+2 -3 =6)[games]
Nafisa Muminova4/11(+3 -6 =2)[games]
Tatiana Kosintseva3.5/11(+1 -5 =5)[games]
Tuvshintugs Batchimeg3.5/11(+1 -5 =5)[games]
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FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - Mansiysk (2014)

Played in Khanty-Mansiysk, Russia 9-21 April 2014. FIDE page: https://www.fide.com/component/cont.... Overview: Wikipedia article: FIDE Women's Grand Prix 2013%E2%80%9314.

Yifan Hou won with 8.5/11 and got 160 Grand Prix points (GPP). Olga Girya achieved a GM norm. Crosstable (http://chess-results.com/tnr131729....) :

Elo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 GPP 1 Yifan Hou 2618 * 1 1 1 1 1 1 8 160 2 Girya 2450 0 * 1 0 1 1 1 1 7 130 3 Kosteniuk 2527 0 * 1 1 1 0 1 6 110 =4 Lahno 2543 1 * 0 1 6 85 =4 Muzychuk 2560 0 0 * 1 1 1 6 85 =6 Dzagnidze 2550 0 0 0 * 1 0 1 1 1 5 65 =6 Stefanova 2489 0 * 0 1 1 5 65 =8 Zhao Xue 2552 0 1 0 1 1 * 0 0 5 45 =8 Ushenina 2501 0 0 0 * 1 1 5 45 10 Muminova 2321 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 * 1 1 4 30 =11 Kosintseva 2496 0 0 1 0 0 0 * 3 15 =11 Batchimeg 2340 0 0 0 0 1 0 * 3 15

Previous event in the Grand Prix series 2013-2014: FIDE Women's Grand Prix Tashkent (2013). Next: FIDE Women's Grand Prix Lopota (2014).

 page 1 of 3; games 1-25 of 66  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. A Stefanova vs Kosteniuk ½-½692014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskD00 Queen's Pawn Game
2. A Ushenina vs N Muminova 1-0482014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskE49 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3, Botvinnik System
3. Zhao Xue vs Lagno  1-0302014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskA04 Reti Opening
4. O Girya vs N Dzagnidze  1-0492014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskE32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical
5. A Muzychuk vs T Batchimeg 1-0812014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskC55 Two Knights Defense
6. Yifan Hou vs T Kosintseva 1-0562014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskA13 English
7. Kosteniuk vs T Kosintseva 0-1352014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskC58 Two Knights
8. T Batchimeg vs Yifan Hou 0-1222014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskE30 Nimzo-Indian, Leningrad
9. N Dzagnidze vs A Muzychuk  ½-½302014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskE12 Queen's Indian
10. Lagno vs O Girya  1-0412014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskB49 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation
11. N Muminova vs Zhao Xue 1-0572014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskC77 Ruy Lopez
12. A Stefanova vs A Ushenina  1-0642014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskA06 Reti Opening
13. A Ushenina vs Kosteniuk  ½-½682014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskD58 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tartakower (Makagonov-Bondarevsky) Syst
14. Zhao Xue vs A Stefanova 1-0702014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
15. T Kosintseva vs T Batchimeg  ½-½572014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
16. O Girya vs N Muminova  ½-½362014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskD37 Queen's Gambit Declined
17. A Muzychuk vs Lagno  ½-½322014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskB52 Sicilian, Canal-Sokolsky (Rossolimo) Attack
18. Yifan Hou vs N Dzagnidze 1-0242014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskB41 Sicilian, Kan
19. A Stefanova vs O Girya ½-½762014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
20. N Muminova vs A Muzychuk 0-1952014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskB31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation
21. Kosteniuk vs T Batchimeg 1-0472014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
22. A Ushenina vs Zhao Xue  ½-½352014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskE43 Nimzo-Indian, Fischer Variation
23. Lagno vs Yifan Hou ½-½242014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskA62 Benoni, Fianchetto Variation
24. N Dzagnidze vs T Kosintseva  1-0392014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskD38 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin Variation
25. T Batchimeg vs N Dzagnidze 0-1982014FIDE Women's Grand Prix Khanty - MansiyskE12 Queen's Indian
 page 1 of 3; games 1-25 of 66  PGN Download
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Apr-18-14  Shams: No, it's simple math. You said "hundreds a day". The true figure is much less than one a day. Divide one figure by the other and there's your error factor.

You might be interested to know that there are only 230 active players rated over 2600.

http://ratings.fide.com/advaction.p...

Apr-18-14  Conrad93: 230 CURRENTLY. There are many 2500's now who were at the 2600+ rating level a month or two ago.
Apr-18-14  Shams: There are probably three or four. But that's irrelevant to your claim anyway. Good night Conrad; have fun getting your learn on.
Apr-18-14  Conrad93: No, there are far more than just three or four.
Apr-19-14  Refused: <Shams: No, it's simple math. You said "hundreds a day". The true figure is much less than one a day. Divide one figure by the other and there's your error factor. You might be interested to know that there are only 230 active players rated over 2600.

http://ratings.fide.com/advaction.p...

No point trying to enable him to learn for himself. Conrad will insist he is right, no matter how much at odds that is with reality.

Funny thing about his "hundreds" of players, it will very likely be the same 15 to 20 or so players, who are bouncing around the 2.600 mark. On rating list, they manage to get their heads above that imaginary water level, on the next list they take a dive.

Letting women play in men's event being unfair? I thought Judit Polgar has educated even the slowest learner. She almost exclusively played men events during her career and in her best she was a Top 10 player.

Hou won Tradewise Gibraltar not that long ago.

Again I don't think Hou will be another Judit Polgar. Polgar was already widely regarded as the best female player in history at age 21. If Hou ever manages to break into the Top 15 I will make public amends, and admit I was wrong about her. But as I said earlier, I think she will peak out rating wise around Inarkiev's level. Very strong GM, bouncing around the 2.700 mark, just not being quite good enough to be permanently above 2.700.

Apr-19-14  waustad: <Hou won Tradewise Gibraltar not that long ago.> I thought she lost the playoff to Short, or do I remember incorrectly?
Apr-19-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <Conrad: The top female players have always been several levels below the men.>

Um, yeah...that is why Judit Polgar has attained a ranking in the top ten players overall.

Are you capable of making statements which rate any higher on the scale of moronicity?

Apr-19-14  SirRuthless: Yifan crushes Girya and is now +6 through 9 rounds. Two to go.
Apr-19-14  Eti fan: It all looks over after this crushing victory https://arena.chessdom.com/#/game/s...
Apr-19-14  Eduardo Leon: <SirRuthless: Yifan crushes Girya and is now +6 through 9 rounds. Two to go.>

Making things even easier for Yifan, Muzychuk lost too! :-)

Apr-19-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: first prize for Hou. I have a feeling it's better for her to play in both the all male events and the female events. She might lose too many games in all male events, which might not make her a better chess player if she spends too much time defending losing positions. Balance is important.
Apr-19-14  zakkzheng: Will Girya get a GM norm?
Apr-19-14  zakkzheng: Zhao has no tactics, just positional play.
Apr-19-14  Kanatahodets: <Shams: <Conrad> By your logic non-Jews should have their own tournaments, Jews being so historically dominant at chess that it would be unfair to pool everyone together.> Jews are very smart and historically they put lots of attention to chess. You statement would be correct say 50 yrs ago, but now in live chess rating +2700 there are only 2 Jew players (Gelgdand!, Svidler?). So I don't see ANY logical foundation for your statement, unless you live in early 60s and connect to us via machine of time:)
Apr-19-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  virginmind: Hou Yifan may very well have the strength of Judith Polgar (or very close to it; let's not also forget that Polgar may be past her prime - but you never know). It's probable that, would she had had the chance to play in men-only tournaments for a few years, her rating would have been (much) higher. A match between the two (at least 6 games) would give us a better idea of how the two compare in strength.

On the other hand, if we leave aside considerations not pertaining strictly to chess strength (like cultural and social reasons for why women couldn't devote more time to playing chess, maternal duties etc.), we cannot avoid acknowledging the reality that, right now (and historically), there is an obvious gap between the respective strengths over all. Just by comparing the ratings/numbers of the first few hundreds (or thousands) best rated males/females, we get a clear picture: look at how many over 2600 elo rated men are right now, and how many women; likewise, how many over 2500 - and here the difference in numbers is much bigger.

Of course, chances are that, should more women will be able to play against men in closed competitions, they will get better rating more quickly, and so more women will get above 2600 ratings. And, why not, maybe in the not too distant future, we will witness one or two who will maintain for years in the top 10 or even top 5 players in the world.

But, for now, on the average chess strength of men vs. women - with all motivations being considered - the reality of numbers is both telling and unavoidable.

Apr-19-14  Absentee: http://www.newslo.com/texas-republi...
Apr-19-14  SirRuthless: <Kanahodets>Anand, Carlsen and Kramnik are Jewish?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
The more you know...

Apr-19-14  Refused: <Kanatahodets: <Shams: <Conrad> By your logic non-Jews should have their own tournaments, Jews being so historically dominant at chess that it would be unfair to pool everyone together.> Jews are very smart and historically they put lots of attention to chess. You statement would be correct say 50 yrs ago, but now in live chess rating +2700 there are only 2 Jew players (Gelgdand!, Svidler?). So I don't see ANY logical foundation for your statement, unless you live in early 60s and connect to us via machine of time:)>

Aren't you forgetting Aronian? I dont know for sure, but I think I heard somewhere, he was Jewish. Anyway, what has their religion to do with their Chess?

Apr-19-14  Kanatahodets: <SirRuthless: <Kanahodets>Anand, Carlsen and Kramnik are Jewish? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
The more you know...>
???i don't get you. Can you read English? Sorry pal:)
Apr-19-14  Kanatahodets: <Refused: Aren't you forgetting Aronian? I dont know for sure, but I think I heard somewhere, he was Jewish. Anyway, what has their religion to do with their Chess?> 1. I don't get you. Who is talking about religion??? 2. I have no idea where you took that Levon is a Jew. Garry had Jewish father, maybe you mix it. Still, I don't see a point of tournaments for non-Jews:) That's just funny. Guys, you perhaps didn't drink coffee today, but the level of posts dropped significantly.
Apr-19-14  laserlight: <zakkzheng: Will Girya get a GM norm?>

I think not. Her performance rating after 9 rounds is apparently 2598, just 2 points short of a 9 game GM norm. But there are two games to go, and a 10 or 11 game GM norm is still possible. Muminova, on the other hand, seems to have earned a 9 game IM norm thus far.

Apr-19-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <Refused....Aren't you forgetting Aronian? I dont know for sure, but I think I heard somewhere, he was Jewish. Anyway, what has their religion to do with their Chess?>

To some, it evidently matters a great deal.

One respect in which the Internet does not constitute progress is with regard to its inadvertent function as a facilitator of those who spread their intolerance behind a mask of anonymity, in the manner of Ku Klux Klan members from bygone days.

Apr-19-14  Refused: Not really paying much attention.
Cooking something, and was also looking for some radio stream. (Local Rivals battling relegation, and this year it looks like they will finally drop. Oh, and they are trailing already 0-1, so things started out quite well).
Apr-19-14  Kanatahodets: OK, it's clear. My post was reply on someone's "proposal" of separate Jews and non-Jews because Jews are dominant in chess (!?). This was in turn an inadequate response on difference in chess strength between women and men. I am for total equality and I don't see men superior to women at all. They play better chess but there are many things which women do better; motherhood would be a notable example:)
Apr-19-14  Eduardo Leon: <They play better chess but there are many things which women do better; motherhood would be a notable example>

Chess is not the kind of thing at which men <have> to be better than women (c.f., athletism, weigh-lifting, physical sports in general). It is primarily an intellectual endeavor and, at least to the best of my knowledge, there is no good reason to assume men have intrinsically better intellectual faculties than women.

The comparison to motherhood is off the mark. By definition, men cannot be mothers.

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