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|Nov-02-14|| ||Penguincw: < Thank you for this table. I just you want to point out that Giri's and MVL's points don't need to be divided by two. So Giri keeps an verage of 40 and MVL 75. >|
Sorry, I'm really bad at thing this called "proofreading". ;)
|Nov-02-14|| ||LuckyChucky: Congrats to Radrawbov and Drawnish Giri, with a combined, winless + 0 - 1 = 21. Lots of tournament invitations coming your way!|
|Nov-02-14|| ||SugarDom: Lol. Drawnish Giri and Teimour Drawjabov you mean...|
|Nov-02-14|| ||parmetd: Ironic that 1st here was last before. Last here was first before.|
|Nov-02-14|| ||plang: <messachess: Look at how really good players falter: Caruana, Karjakin.>|
They both finished at +1 in a strong tournament - I wouldn't really call that "faltering"
|Nov-02-14|| ||Penguincw: < parmetd: Ironic that 1st here was last before. Last here was first before. >|
Yes, although Andreikin finished 2nd last in Baku. :)
|Nov-02-14|| ||Pawn Dillinger: <Absentee: Khalifman is still the guy who won the world championship 15 years ago.>|
THE world champion at that time was Kasparov, who had yet to be beaten in a world championship match, which is how one becomes a world champion. To be the man, one beats the man in a match. It's why there have been 16 world champions. (Yes, we all know the exceptions: Botvinnik, who succeeded Alekhine because the latter died and the former won a round robin; and Karpov, because Fischer gave up his title and Karpov won his match with Korchnoi.)
Further, this is not a matter of what people think. As a sportswriter, I was trained — as were many others in the Associated Press — to recognize only linear champions, not all FIDE champions. See old ESPN almanacs for further proof. All other FIDE champions are recognized by asterisks.
Seriously, hadn't Kasparov proven beyond a doubt that he was the champion— not Karpov —in 1993, when FIDE started their split champions? All further arguments stem from this premise.
Only FIDE considers Khalifman as champ in 1999. There would have never been negotiations to unify the championship with Kasparov if he wasn't still considered THE champ by FIDE. Any official sports-reporting agency knew this as well. This is where you get your facts, not opinions. Long before the blogosphere where everyone has an opinion, but not necessarily a clue.
The World Cup essentially evolved from the FIDE knockout -system world championship biz. Read Garry Kasparov on Garry Kasparov Part III for further insight on this point.
|Nov-02-14|| ||Wavy: I think Caruana is already a shoo in to be one of the qualifiers for the Candidates Tournament. Nakamura, Grishuk and Svidler are my bets to get the other slot.|
|Nov-02-14|| ||kevinatcausa: Interesting that all of Andreikin's wins came against people with positive records.|
|Nov-02-14|| ||Garech: Great win for Andreikin, who also surpasses his highest ever rating, now at 2732.|
|Nov-02-14|| ||ooda: If Caruana qualifies for the candidates by rating as well as his score in the Grand Prix, will the 3rd place getter gain a spot in the candidates? I can't recall this having occured before. I can't imagine a different way they would assign the eighth spot.|
|Nov-02-14|| ||devere: <ooda: If Caruana qualifies for the candidates by rating as well as his score in the Grand Prix, will the 3rd place getter gain a spot in the candidates?>|
If they use the same rules they used in 2012-2014, the candidates tournament invitation will go to the next highest player on the ratings list who participated in either the Grand Prix or World Cup.
The third place finisher in the Grand Prix is the substitute for any player who refuses their invitation to the candidates tournament. Otherwise, just like Caruana in 2013, they don't get to play. In my opinion it's a bad system, but Kirsan doesn't care at all about my opinion.
|Nov-03-14|| ||ooda: Thanks <devere> for the answer. Would not be surprised if it occurs.|
|Nov-03-14|| ||fgh: <Further, this is not a matter of what people think. As a sportswriter, I was trained — as were many others in the Associated Press — to recognize only linear champions, not all FIDE champions. See old ESPN almanacs for further proof. All other FIDE champions are recognized by asterisks.>|
So the opinion of chess players does not matter, but the opinion of people at ESPN does. :-)
|Nov-03-14|| ||geniokov: What happen to Teimour Radjabov? It seems that he is totally unprepared in this tournament drawing all his games! I think it´s about time for him to read "Leko´s 100 Selected Games"..tsk tsk!|
|Nov-03-14|| ||bugabay: <rogge: Giri <might> be a bad loser, this looks rather unpleasant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFcy...|
Nothing compares to this....
< sonia91: Video of the game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGfG... Note Carlsen's reaction when he loses the queen :)>
A feature or quality belonging typically to a true loser....professionalism and sportsmanship is a thing of the past...and I say to the highest degree....so much for the epic fail...
|Nov-03-14|| ||bugabay: <LuckyChucky: Congrats to Radrawbov and Drawnish Giri, with a combined, winless + 0 - 1 = 21. Lots of tournament invitations coming your way!>|
You speak the truth....courtesy of their rich uncles....and feebleminded crabs who support the farce show.
|Nov-03-14|| ||Kinghunt: Kasimdzhanov is the first player officially without a chance to win the Grand Prix, though it is technically still possible if literally everything goes right that he could slip into the second candidates spot. Amongst other things that would need to happen, he would need to take sole first in Tblisi, where Andreikin would need to finish in 11-12, and Nakamura would need to finish dead last in Khanty-Mansiysk.|
|Nov-03-14|| ||SirRuthless: So you're saying there's a chance? Hopefully Dominguez and Giri finish sole 1st and 2nd in Tblisi. Some men just want to watch the world burn...|
|Nov-03-14|| ||mkrk17: Any reason why Aronian, Kramnik are not in this grand prix ? They weren't in the previous one too. Does it mean that they will not qualify for candidates 2016 unless they get a wild card or they are the highest rating ?|
|Nov-03-14|| ||shivasuri4: Aronian will get through by his rating. Kramnik, not so sure. It depends on which rating lists will be used.|
|Nov-03-14|| ||donehung: @swordfish
Lol "more then a younger topalov and kramnick could do"
Did you even study any of those matches?
Topalov went all out for a win in the last game of their match to avoid rapids. And lost going out swinging.
His wins against Anand were brilliant.
Gelfand lost a game in 17 moves if I recall. And when kramnick played Anand id say most people would say Anand was at the top of his game. People of your ilk are the same type of Carlsen bag lickers who think he destroyed Anand in their match when in fact he won 2 drawn endgames and then had Anand throw himself on a dagger in the last loss in a desperate attempt to win. History will only remember the score lines but real fans know what happened.
|Nov-03-14|| ||starry2013: <messachess: Congrats. to Andreikin. well done. Of course, all players who accomplish something like this have to back it up with future performances. That's the really tough part. Look at how really good players falter: Caruana, Karjakin.>|
Players who are consistently in the top 10 in the world are hardly faltering. Andreikin simply isn't at that level yet.
I think the hectic schedule with two Grand Prix back to back made things quite strange and players couldn't carry over their performance across the two events easily.
|Nov-03-14|| ||parmetd: I think these two grand Prix have really shown how close literally all these GMs are in strength.|
|Nov-03-14|| ||parmetd: No guarantees Aronian gets in by rating either as FIDE hasn't picked the rating lists yet.|
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