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🏆 Petrosian - Korchnoi Candidates Semifinal (1971)

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Played in Moscow, USSR, 4-28 July 1971. ... [more]

Player: Tigran Vartanovich Petrosian

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Petrosian vs Korchnoi  ½-½351971Petrosian - Korchnoi Candidates SemifinalE34 Nimzo-Indian, Classical, Noa Variation
2. Korchnoi vs Petrosian  ½-½371971Petrosian - Korchnoi Candidates SemifinalE11 Bogo-Indian Defense
3. Petrosian vs Korchnoi ½-½271971Petrosian - Korchnoi Candidates SemifinalA13 English
4. Korchnoi vs Petrosian ½-½661971Petrosian - Korchnoi Candidates SemifinalE11 Bogo-Indian Defense
5. Petrosian vs Korchnoi  ½-½151971Petrosian - Korchnoi Candidates SemifinalD32 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tarrasch
6. Korchnoi vs Petrosian ½-½421971Petrosian - Korchnoi Candidates SemifinalE17 Queen's Indian
7. Petrosian vs Korchnoi ½-½131971Petrosian - Korchnoi Candidates SemifinalA08 King's Indian Attack
8. Korchnoi vs Petrosian ½-½161971Petrosian - Korchnoi Candidates SemifinalE15 Queen's Indian
9. Petrosian vs Korchnoi 1-0411971Petrosian - Korchnoi Candidates SemifinalA20 English
10. Korchnoi vs Petrosian ½-½401971Petrosian - Korchnoi Candidates SemifinalE02 Catalan, Open, 5.Qa4
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Aug-28-16
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  offramp: <thegoodanarchist: <<offramp: < thegoodanarchist: <Anatoly Karpov, apparently, believed that the match had been rigged.> I believe Karpov.> Does that make sense? The winner of this match was going to play Fischer in the Candidates' Final.

Wouldn't the Russian Chess Federation want their strongest player playing him? I think they would.

But how could they find out who was currently strongest out of Kortschnoi and Petrosian?>

Someone deleted all of the previous posts, and clearly I was responding to one of the deleted ones because my post has a quote from an earlier one:

<Anatoly Karpov, apparently, believed that the match had been rigged.>>

I copied and pasted this from someone, and that someone's post was later deleted.>>

Nothing was deleted. You copied the quote from the introduction, which is still there:

<Was the matched rigged by the Soviet authorities? .... Anatoly Karpov, apparently, believed that the match had been rigged.>

Aug-28-16
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  thegoodanarchist: <offramp:

Nothing was deleted>

Ah, excellent. Thank you for pointing that out - obviously I didn't pay close attention earlier.

So I ask you, who would know best if this was a practice of the Soviets? The golden boy of the Soviet system, of course, who witnessed it throughout his career and lived in the midst of it, even benefiting from it at times. In other words, the same way any sports player playing in a game knows better than spectators how good or bad the referee is at his job.

It was seen from the 1940s that Soviet players tended to make easy draws amongst themselves at international tournaments, and save their fighting energy for the international players. So clearly Soviet chess authorities were <systematically> trying to effect the outcomes of chess events through what I shall politely call "less than sporting" tactics. And Soviet players participated, either willingly or because of fear.

Why did Fine decline to play in the 1948 WC tournament? Why, in fact, did Fischer push so hard for FIDE to have candidates <matches> instead of <tournaments>? And why did FIDE ultimately go in this direction?

International players saw it up close, and for generations. Keres or maybe Bronstein was reported to have remarked that if Botvinnik didn't win some big tournament that he must not be the cause, he was told. We have accounts of the corruption from others as well, like GM Alburt.

You want ironclad proof of cheating in documents? Probably people practicing corruption are loath to document it in writing - why do you think that is?

The Soviet system was forged in the crucible of Stalin's paranoia. Those in power lied and murdered to get what they wanted. You think pressuring a GM to lose a match is a step too far for people like that?

Aug-28-16  Lt.Surena: Why did Fine decline to play in the 1948 WC tournament?

Because Fine was a COWARD like Fischer.
Fine came up with several different excuses over the years. The same way Bobby tried to pin the blame for his 7 losses in Curacao on others.

It's an old phenomena in the USA. We are not to be blamed for our ill behvaior. Others are responsible for our failures.

Bobby quickly forgot how he "qualified"
to play in 1970 Interzonal (part of 1972 World Championship).

The answer is Bobby never qualified. Benko was paid off under the table to give his seat to Bobby. The gangsters at USCF arranged it. 5 other players who were eligible ahead of Bobby were also told to get lost by scammers at USCF. The head of FIDE (Euwe) was also in the scam. All perpetrated out in the open.

Aug-28-16
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  thegoodanarchist: And another America hater shows up to spout his venom, and also to project his own way of thinking onto others.

Good thing you can read minds and know how Fine and Fischer thought. Oh, wait... no, you cannot.

Aug-28-16
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  perfidious: <Lt.Surena....Because Fine was a COWARD like Fischer. Fine came up with several different excuses over the years. The same way Bobby tried to pin the blame for his 7 losses in Curacao on others.....>

Do you <ever> do anything but idolise Petrosian and slag Fischer and Fine? One hundred sixteen posts to your 'credit' and they are tripe, almost every one.

Aug-28-16  Nina Myers: <perfidious: <Lt.Surena....Because Fine was a COWARD like Fischer. Fine came up with several different excuses over the years. The same way Bobby tried to pin the blame for his 7 losses in Curacao on others.....>>

When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

Aug-28-16
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  perfidious: <Nimrod Moron: When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.>

Stick to compiling your catalogue of defeats inflicted upon Wesley So--you are hopelessly out of your depth here.

Sep-01-16  Nina Myers: <Why did Fine decline to play in the 1948 WC tournament? Because Fine was a COWARD like Fischer.
Fine came up with several different excuses over the years. The same way Bobby tried to pin the blame for his 7 losses in Curacao on others.

It's an old phenomena in the USA. We are not to be blamed for our ill behvaior. Others are responsible for our failures.

Bobby quickly forgot how he "qualified"
to play in 1970 Interzonal (part of 1972 World Championship).

The answer is Bobby never qualified. Benko was paid off under the table to give his seat to Bobby. The gangsters at USCF arranged it. 5 other players who were eligible ahead of Bobby were also told to get lost by scammers at USCF. The head of FIDE (Euwe) was also in the scam. All perpetrated out in the open.>

imho a fair-minded view, eventually.

Sep-01-16
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  HeMateMe: The reason that some idiot, above, thinks Fischer didn't qualify isn't for lack of results. He simply didn't play in the USA championships, a zonal tournament.

BF had won this event 11 straight times and would have won it again. With that in mind, common sense behavior was for one of the top three finishers to give up their place for him.

Sep-01-16  Howard: Fischer won the US Championship eight times, not eleven.
Sep-01-16
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  WannaBe: Bobby changed his name to Lev Albert and won it three more times.

Total 11. =))

Sep-01-16  Petrosianic: Oh, Surena knows what he's saying isn't true. He's heard the truth enough times, but seems to feel it's somehow liberating to lie to your face.

As he knows full well, Benko wasn't paid off, and it wouldn't have done any good if he was, because when Benko dropped out the spot went to Lombardy, not Fischer. Lombardy had to drop out too, and all the others in the tournament, all the way down to Dr. Karl Burger, before USCF was allowed to reassign the seat to somebody outside of the Zonal because nobody in the Zonal wanted it. Surena knows that, his attitude is always "If I close my eyes, it go away!"

Sep-02-16  Howard: It's possible, however, that after Lombardy and Co all conceded the interzonal spot to Fischer, Benko then might have been paid off.

Granted, the controversy over whether Benko was bought off, is a rather beaten-to-death point, in my view. Keep in mind that he made a huge concession when he gave up his spot--a modest payoff might have been only fair.

Sep-02-16  sac 4 mate: Brady's Fischer biography quotes Fischer around the time of the Interzonal saying that Pal Benko "would not give up his spot for money alone," implying that some financial incentive was provided. It's also my understanding that the Interzonal participants from America were nominated by the USCF, not seeded directly from the U.S. Championship by FIDE. While it had always been the case that the USCF nominated the top three finishers from the previous year's U.S. Championship, they apparently were under no explicit legal obligation to do so, nor to pick the fourth or fifth place finisher of that same tournament as a replacement if one of their three nominees withdrew.
Sep-03-16  Howard: The USCF "nominated" the Interzonal participants in 1970 ?! That's certainly news to me! Would FIDE have allowed such a thing--I seriously doubt it.
Sep-03-16
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  maxi: I forget, why was it that Fischer did not play in the US Championship?
Sep-03-16  sac 4 mate: Officially, he was upset about the length of the tournament - said eleven rounds for a U.S. Championship was too short and left the result too much up to chance.
Sep-03-16
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  maxi: OK, so if that is the reason and he is afraid of not being able to show his true strength and not classify, then he does not participate (and thus does not classify for sure). Oh my!
Sep-03-16
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  HeMateMe: A sign of Fischer's uber paranoia getting worse. The man who had won the event 11-0 one time, complaining that 11 rounds was too short to determine the best player.
Sep-03-16
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  beatgiant: <maxi>
The tournament organizers lost Fischer's participation, and still ended up qualifying him after all. Oh my!
Sep-04-16
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  Sally Simpson: "The answer is Bobby never qualified. Benko was paid off under the table to give his seat to Bobby. The gangsters at USCF arranged it."

The 'gangsters' ran the idea past FIDE and they agreed. It was Benko's idea to give his place to Bobby and Benko was paid over the table.

In his own words:

"The figure $2,000 is sometimes mentioned as the price I was paid for stepping down.

Actually, that fee was paid, but it was for my services as second to Reshevsky and Addison at that tournament - and it is the same amount I would have received as an appearance fee had I actually played."

Chess Life & Review, July 1975

Now of you are looking for a chess federation to point your finger at and vent venom.

How about one actually paying a player from another country to throw a game so their man qualifies.

Taimanov vs Matulovic, 1970

After the 6-0 scudding the Moscow 'gangsters' were going around asking: "Whose idea was it to buy Tamanov in the candidate matches?"

Sep-04-16  N0B0DY: , evidently!
Sep-04-16
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  Sally Simpson: Taimanov vs Matulovic, 1970 (kibitz #82)
Sep-04-16
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  maxi: <beatgiant> Could it be that Fischer had seen more moves ahead?
Sep-06-16  Howard: Soltis makes that same point in his book on the US championship, now in its third edition.
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