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|Oct-16-15|| ||zanzibar: < I don't know why there are people here that is making a big deal of Carlsen's temperament in one his matches in this tournament.>|
Well, I saw in a Carlsen interview a certain level of self-criticism...
|Oct-16-15|| ||perfidious: <pinhead king: So much for Carlsen's "mental strength"....>|
Yeah, the fish has no right to ever lose a game and still be called the best.
<....He's just like any other internet speed chess player. Lose a game or two, then get upset and play worse.>
Oh, I am sure you would do better than the donk Carlsen--if he gave you rook odds and played all the games drunk as a lord.
|Oct-16-15|| ||diceman: <zanzibar:
Has anybody ever quantified the <tilt-factor> for a player?>
...usually it's by feel.
<Say, the ratio of their scoring for games after a loss versus the general average.>
Oh, I thought you were talking about how far they lean back in their chair.
|Oct-16-15|| ||diceman: Apparently there's a new dance step,
the "Carlsen Spin."
You spin around a few times and make a motion like you're throwing a pen at a table.
When that hits the mosh pit, someone's
gonna lose an eye.
|Oct-16-15|| ||AzingaBonzer: It's quite simple. People here--like <bobthebob>--dislike Carlsen. They may try to hide it behind rhetoric, but their actions reveal that every chance they get to criticize him, they take it. The fact that they are fans of Nakamura is pretty telling as well.|
|Oct-16-15|| ||zanzibar: <Oh, I thought you were talking about how far they lean back in their chair.>|
Or forward, when they bang their fist on the table.
|Oct-16-15|| ||Jambow: <But, so you know, I did comment about Nepo's recent unprofessionalism too.>|
Yes regarding his statements about Nakamura cheating right, thanks I could not have made the point better.
If you think trolling players pages and denigrating them is a worthy pursuit it's your time. You have been spending an inordinate amount of it on the Carlsen page and on things involving him like <pinoy king> does, not the company I would hang with but hey it's a free country right, knock yourself out.
|Oct-16-15|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi Jambow,
"I think Steinitz threw someone out a window or made an attempt,"
It was apparently Blackburne who threw Steinitz through a window because Steinitz spat at him.
This was not during or after a game between them but an off the board
However...Chess with Violence by Edward Winter
Throws a doubt on it and the when and the where, but something happened between them.
Good, he's not a cold machine but human like the rest of us. I've seen worse after a blitz loss...a lot worse. The fact he is the current World Champion and throws tantrums is good publicity for the game.
If it helps dispel the myth that some people sill have it's a game played by crusty old men falling asleep when it's their turn to move then good show.
By all accounts at the board a perfect gent.
Off the board.....best not to go there, we could be here all night.
|Oct-17-15|| ||Sokrates: <Sally Simpson: ... I've seen worse after a blitz loss...a lot worse...> LOL. I am sure we all have witnessed some dramatic and hilarious incidents on that account. I recall one player who threw his king into his filled coffee mug after he'd lost. And another, who shouted "idiot" loudly to himself. Well, his opponent throught it was meant for him so he had to stop his anger and explain himself.|
|Oct-17-15|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi Sokrates,
Fisticuffs, pushing, shoving, insults, cheating (the old pawn from h4 to h6 trick).
King's getting taken because a player has not noticed he was in check often kicks off a battle.
Some clubs have banned blitz because of the damage it did to the club's clocks.
In the pub where we all met on a Sunday to have a huge blitz session it banned because of the fights and the trouble it was causing. There were two sets and two clocks behind the bar. The manager locked them in his office!
|Oct-17-15|| ||TheFocus: I knew chess was a violent game.
|Oct-17-15|| ||Sokrates: Hi Sally S.,
Hilarious story about the pub and the rest you wrote. In my experience chess-players don't muster a higher standard in behavior or personal calibre as anyone else, perhaps on the contrary. Some of my best friends in life were/are chess-players, but I have also met quite a few petty-minded characters. When you look at the chess elite, not only the contemporary but also those from the past, I am not sure the nice guys are in majority.
|Oct-17-15|| ||Jambow: <Sally Simpson> Yes I'm not sure what truth there was about Steinitz but true or not it is an example of perfect unsportsmanlike conduct. Tossing a pen down or waiving your hands not a big deal really.|
|Oct-17-15|| ||PhilFeeley: I think the comment about emotions running high during blitz are accurate. Remember the blitz playoff between Krush and Zatonsky? The ending to that was just as fiery.|
|Oct-17-15|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi,
It's because it's blitz chess.
In a classical game you can see the defeat coming, you have time to adjust and can compose yourself, you can sit at lost position for 5 minutes before resigning.
You have none of that in blitz. Bang! it's over. One second you are winning, next you are signing a scoresheet recording a loss still with a galleon of adrenalin still flooding through your system.
It's a wonder you don't see these primitive human reactions captured on camera much more often.
|Oct-18-15|| ||Atking: <Tossing a pen down or waiving your hands not a big deal really.>. Indeed. Not elegant but understandable. It seems to me Carlsen was angry toward himself. His aggressive attitude wasn't toward his opponent. After all it's blitz and as noted by <Sokrates> sometimes it is difficult to keep mind under control.|
<... don't see these primitive human reactions captured on camera much more often.> Trying to capture the very last reaction I doubt the cameraman who was less primitive than the Champion few sec before. Better to focus on the remarkable chess achievement of the Champion.
|Oct-18-15|| ||Jambow: <Philfeeley> Yes I was thinking of exactly the same instance... I would say that was more fiery.I'm a fan of Krush, she works very hard. |
Irina has some nice instructional videos out of the St Louis Scholastic chess cub. Out of all the various videos she is the one that is most clear and concise imho. Great for begginer and intermediate players.
|Oct-18-15|| ||Appaz: I haven't been in here for a few days, but I see some <extremely well behaved> kibitzers are still in a shock over Carlsen's visible disappointment over himself.|
|Oct-18-15|| ||john barleycorn: Kasparov used to deliver "better" performances during and after a lost game. "@#$% Ivanchuk" sticks in my mind.|
|Oct-18-15|| ||MissScarlett: Imagine Magnus losing to Nakamura at the Olympiad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gha...|
|Oct-18-15|| ||Pawn Dillinger: <PhilFeeley: I think the comment about emotions running high during blitz are accurate. Remember the blitz playoff between Krush and Zatonsky? The ending to that was just as fiery.>|
It was an Armageddon game and Krush swatted one of her pieces across the room, later complaining that Armageddon was no way to settle a U.S. Championship.
I also enjoyed watching Karpov limpidly smiling at a glaring Kasparov during their games. And I think it was Kramnik who said — and this is a paraphrase – Kasparov looked like a gorilla, the way he stomped around the room between moves.
I wonder what people would be writing if Carlsen did what I accidentally did once: Upon blundering in a winning position, I breathed out heavily, bringing my pencil down with the weight of my arm. The eraser side hit the table, bounced from my hand and struck my opponent, Appalled, I apologized profusely. Though he was nice about it, laughing it off, I remain embarrassed a year later.
|Oct-18-15|| ||Jambow: At the Chicago Open 12 or more years ago in the wee hours of the night where just one or to games were still on going in the GM room. I with several others was watching a complicated position with the late Shawn Walter Browne playing some other titled player I don't remember. Browne looked like a bundle of nervous energy fidgeting and squirming in his chair. A few places down in the library quiet room at the same table a few youngsters were skitteling the game, Browne having his back towards them. He suddenly jumps up walks down to the board swipes the pieces across the room and screams you know that you can't do that!!! A young sweat pants wearing Nakamura sits there staring at Shawn saying not a word. Browne then after the brief stare down walks back to his board and makes his next move. You could have heard a pin drop. |
Now I do believe Browne was looking at the position on the other board in his wine glass. No matter that was a bit different than the Carlsen pen toss.
|Oct-19-15|| ||ajile: My humble contribution:
|Oct-19-15|| ||diceman: <ajile: My humble contribution:>|
If Magnus keeps spinning they will need
to supply dramamine for all spectators.
|Oct-20-15|| ||Jambow: <ajile> funny ha ha. Why isn't anybody complaining about Ivanchuk making that face 20 times in a row. ;0]|
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