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🏆 European Club Cup (2015)

  PARTICIPANTS (sorted by highest achieved rating; click on name to see player's games)
Fabiano Caruana, Levon Aronian, Maxime Vachier-Lagrave, Vladimir Kramnik, Veselin Topalov, Hikaru Nakamura, Shakhriyar Mamedyarov, Alexander Grischuk, Anish Giri, Teimour Radjabov, Sergey Karjakin, Vassily Ivanchuk, Boris Gelfand, Peter Svidler, Leinier Dominguez Perez, Ian Nepomniachtchi, Pentala Harikrishna, Peter Leko, Michael Adams, Dmitry Jakovenko, Evgeny Tomashevsky, Li Chao, Wang Yue, Alexey Shirov, David Navara, Yu Yangyi, Radoslaw Wojtaszek, Etienne Bacrot, Nikita Vitiugov, Dmitry Andreikin, Baadur Jobava, Vladimir Fedoseev, Ernesto Inarkiev, Vladimir Malakhov, Maxim Matlakov, Evgeny Alekseev, Anton Korobov, Krishnan Sasikiran, Yuriy Kryvoruchko, David Howell, Maxim Rodshtein, Evgeny Najer, Sergei Rublevsky, Boris Grachev, Viktor Laznicka, Emil Sutovsky, Jon Ludvig Hammer, Markus Ragger, Eltaj Safarli, Rauf Mamedov, Vadim Zvjaginsev, Vladimir Potkin, Christian Bauer, Ivan Saric, Michael Roiz, Aleksej Aleksandrov, Konstantin Landa, Daniil Dubov, Mateusz Bartel, Evgeny Postny, Robert Markus, Aleksander Delchev, Gadir Guseinov, Dariusz Swiercz, Ildar Khairullin, Evgeny Romanov, Ivan Popov, Pavel Tregubov, Tomi Nyback, Dmitry Kokarev, Zbynek Hracek, Dmitry Bocharov, Friso Nijboer, Simen Agdestein, Vasif Durarbayli, Yannick Pelletier, Nidjat Mamedov, Mladen Palac, Sabino Brunello, Semen I Dvoirys, Vlastimil Babula, Alexander Huzman, Daniele Vocaturo, Andreas Heimann, Aryan Tari, Rasmus Svane, Alon Greenfeld, Nijat Abasov, Ognjen Cvitan, Danyyil Dvirnyy, Nikita Petrov, Leif Erlend Johannessen, Michele Godena, Vugar Rasulov, Tal Baron, Ulvi Bajarani, Keith Arkell, Peter K Wells, Jan Michael Sprenger, Trajce Nedev, Gennadi Ginsburg, Olivier Renet, Robin Swinkels, Gennadij Fish, Lucas Brunner, Lothar Vogt, Lelys Stanley Martinez Duany, Filip Pancevski, Ilya Khmelniker, Jonas Lampert, Vasile Sanduleac, Vladimir Hamitevici, Twan Burg, Aleksandar Colovic, Dmitrij Kollars, Jorge Viterbo Ferreira, Clovis Vernay, Zaur Mammadov, Carlo D'Amore, Martijn Dambacher, Eylon Nakar, Jonathan Westerberg, Noel Studer, Andreas Diermair, G Petar Arnaudov, Alexander Kaspi, Lexy Ortega, James R Adair, Israel Caspi, Peter Schreiner, Michael Wiedenkeller, Jan-Willem de Jong, Nicolas Brunner, Johan-Sebastian Christiansen, Jonathan Carlstedt, Jeroen Bosch, Arthur Pijpers, Matthias Roeder, Mika Karttunen, Steven Geirnaert, Adam Hunt, Yuri Boidman, Zhaoqin Peng, Patrick Zelbel, Claude Landenbergue, Victor Nithander, Edwin van Haastert, Robert Kreisl, Matthew Tan, Kim Pilgaard plus 206 more players

 page 1 of 36; games 1-25 of 886  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. R Gueci vs Potkin  0-1342015European Club CupB47 Sicilian, Taimanov (Bastrikov) Variation
2. J Lampert vs J Jarvenpaa  ½-½482015European Club CupE00 Queen's Pawn Game
3. K Pulkkinen vs D Kollars 0-1292015European Club CupC28 Vienna Game
4. J Kramer vs M Tolonen  ½-½642015European Club CupC18 French, Winawer
5. P Laine vs L Hinrichs  ½-½472015European Club CupC11 French
6. B Uksini vs K Nieminen  ½-½362015European Club CupE11 Bogo-Indian Defense
7. D Howell vs A Diermair  0-1802015European Club CupA07 King's Indian Attack
8. P Schreiner vs V Hamitevici  1-0542015European Club CupA13 English
9. E Kirk vs W Arztmann ½-½572015European Club CupD17 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
10. Simon Pacher vs A Colovic 0-1642015European Club CupA04 Reti Opening
11. Arkell vs Christian Hofer  ½-½622015European Club CupA15 English
12. M Maki Uuro vs R Svane  ½-½132015European Club CupB13 Caro-Kann, Exchange
13. R Buss vs C Grubert  ½-½642015European Club CupA92 Dutch
14. J Aabling-Thomsen vs E Romanov  0-1402015European Club CupA07 King's Indian Attack
15. A Tari vs K Pilgaard  1-0432015European Club CupC76 Ruy Lopez, Modern Steinitz Defense, Fianchetto Variation
16. J Carstensen vs K Holm  ½-½212015European Club CupA90 Dutch
17. J S Christiansen vs R Junge 1-0242015European Club CupE62 King's Indian, Fianchetto
18. E Christensen vs M Sagafos  0-1462015European Club CupB77 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack
19. B Kvisvik vs K Yssing 1-0382015European Club CupA31 English, Symmetrical, Benoni Formation
20. A Heimann vs Bjarke Jensen  1-0322015European Club CupA20 English
21. A Wiwe vs O Renet  ½-½232015European Club CupE00 Queen's Pawn Game
22. O Cvitan vs A Rosenkilde  1-0642015European Club CupA17 English
23. J Rathlev vs N Brunner  0-1362015European Club CupA14 English
24. Nils Arztmann vs M J Armstrong  0-1252015European Club CupB16 Caro-Kann, Bronstein-Larsen Variation
25. R Markus vs C O'Donnell  1-0342015European Club CupD30 Queen's Gambit Declined
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Oct-24-15  BOSTER: <MOLLOYCHESS:The opening is not everything>.

Agree.

This is the pos. white to play 24.


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White pieces have more freedom, but black pawn structure is better.

Here white Ivanchuk could "sacr." the queen playing 24.Nxd5.

if 24...Rxe4 25.Nf6+ gxf6 26.Rxd8+ Qxd8 27. Rxd8+ Kg7, and white can get the majority on the queen side.

If other <take> , black will lose a pawn.

Oct-24-15  sonia91: Congratulations to Siberia team!

Final standings:

1. Siberia 13
2. SOCAR 11
3. St. Petersburg 11
4. Padova 11

Oct-24-15  jphamlore: If the next Candidates cycle is similar to this one, the players are right in the middle of the time period, approximately from May 2015 through April 2016, for ratings qualification to the next Grand Prix cycle. This time all four of Svidler, Karjakin, Giri, and Eljanov from World Cup may accept, leaving I believe 7 invites by rating. (4 potentially from World Cup, 4 sponsor invites, 1 FIDE President's nominee). Then one has the World Champion and challenger who won't play, and likely Topalov and Kramnik declining the invite as well.

This is going to be quite an exciting horse race with I think a goal of finishing in the top 14 in ratings over that time period. It's not the money that matters, it's the seasoning playing many of the very best players in an endless grind over 33 games.

So for example MVL won a couple of games but then really struggled in the Grand Prix. And he struggled other events. But I think he's finally on the verge of being at his absolute prime. The problem is the competition is so fierce it is incredibly difficult even for a player of his talent in his prime just to stay in the top 9 or 10 in ratings.

The Chinese players have barely even started on this process. It appears Ding Liren will get his shot in the Grand Prix and perhaps even the Grand Chess Tour, assuming he can sort out whatever visa problems kept him from playing for Siberia last May at Sochi. Li Chao may make the Grand Prix by rating as well. He could really use it.

I am hoping the FIDE President's nominee this cycle for Grand Prix is Wei Yi. Sadly I can also see scenarios where it all falls apart and none of the Chinese players make any of the top events next cycle. Something seems broken in how players get invites.

Oct-24-15  BOSTER: < iphamlore>.
I guess that your < an exciting horse race > can be sharply changed. There are a lot reasons for it.
Oct-24-15  waustad: I just read that Andreas Diermair got a GM norm, his second, at the event. I didn't realize that this was one of the special events where a norm for less than 9 rounds was possible.
Oct-24-15
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  PhilFeeley: <Karposian> No, I don't have a problem with it. I was just wondering why Armenia doesn't have a team there. They usually have a pretty strong one in the Olympiad.
Oct-25-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  PhilFeeley: Korobov should have won. I'm surprised Mamedyarov lost.
Oct-25-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tiggler: <BOSTER>:< Here white Ivanchuk could "sacr." the queen playing 24.Nxd5.

if 24...Rxe4 25.Nf6+ gxf6 26.Rxd8+ Qxd8 27. Rxd8+ Kg7, and white can get the majority on the queen side.

If other <take> , black will lose a pawn.>

24...Rxd5 25. Rxd5 Rxe4 26. Rd8+ Qxd8+ 27. Rxd8 Kh7 =

Oct-25-15  jphamlore: The point of the fecklessness of Ivanchuk's opening against Kramnik is that having obtained nothing from the opening, Ivanchuk then proceeded from moves 20 through 30 to run his clock down to 3 minutes left versus Kramnik's 14, upon which he naturally played sub-optimally to make the time control, leaving Kramnik in a position where Kramnik could grind in a rook ending with ease.

It's not like recent results are very promising for White against top competition in this opening:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...

What is the best recent result, this?

D Naroditsky vs Jakovenko, 2015

Oct-25-15  AzingaBonzer: <jphamlore> The "Chinese players lack experience" argument seems to me an extremely weak one. Wang Yue was once top 10, as was Wang Hao, and Ding Liren is currently top 10. Wei Yi and Yu Yangyi have gotten quite a bit of exposure as well, and Ni Hua and Bu Xiangzhi are well-known veterans. Hou Yifan--well, it's hard to argue that the Women's World Champion doesn't get enough exposure to top players--what about Biel, for example? Or Dortmund?

Of all the Chinese players, Li Chao is the only one who doesn't play top-flight opposition very often. He's very much an open tournament specialist (for lack of invitations, possibly?).

Oct-26-15  latvalatvian: It doesn't surprise me that Siberia won. They don't have chess computers there and have to use their brains. Most players now just sit in a room full of chess computers smashing out billions of positions.
Oct-26-15  AzingaBonzer: <latvalatvian> Dude, Siberia is the team's name, not the country they're from.
Oct-26-15  Conrad93: <It doesn't surprise me that Siberia won. They don't have chess computers there and have to use their brains. Most players now just sit in a room full of chess computers smashing out billions of positions.>

They're not caveman.

Oct-27-15
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  thegoodanarchist: congrats to whoever won this thing.
Oct-27-15  sonia91: <thegoodanarchist: ...whoever won this thing> just read my previous comment above to find out the winners.
Oct-27-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: <sonia91: Congratulations to Siberia team!

Final standings:

1. Siberia 13 >

Uh, thanks?

OK, so Siberia 13 won. Clears that up. Congrats to whoever they are.

Oct-27-15  sonia91: Siberia is the name of the team (Kramnik, Aronian, Grischuk, Li Chao, Wang Yue, Korobov and other two Russian GMs), 13 are the match-points

http://chess-results.com/tnr188529....

Oct-27-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: thanks, <sonia91>
Oct-30-15  Overgod: Awesome performance from Kramnik. If he keeps that up, it's Kramnik vs. Carlsen next year! What a match that would be!
Oct-31-15  Everett: < jphamlore: The point of the fecklessness of Ivanchuk's opening against Kramnik is that having obtained nothing from the opening>

20 years ago you would have likely called the Berlin Ruy "feckless." Why read your posts?

Oct-31-15  Everett: atvalatvian: <It doesn't surprise me that Siberia won. They don't have chess computers there and have to use their brains. Most players now just sit in a room full of chess computers smashing out billions of positions.>

Their computers are made of ice and snow, running on seal fat and the blood of former gulag prisoners.

Oct-31-15
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  perfidious: <Everett: < jphamlore: The point of the fecklessness of Ivanchuk's opening against Kramnik is that having obtained nothing from the opening>

20 years ago you would have likely called the Berlin Ruy "feckless." Why read your posts?>

Never mind that, as noted by <MOLLOYCHESS>, White was not worse in that middlegame.

As noted, why read <hamhock>'s repetitive dross preaching the gospel that games between top GMs are decided in the opening, when there is a rather large body of evidence which points to the axiomatic conclusion that there is still scope for play <after> the opening phase?

Nov-02-15  celsochini: Thank You PhilFeeley !

PhilFeeley: An official page, for those interested:
http://europeanchessclubcup2015.com/

Nov-10-15  scholes: Its shame after such a performance, Kramnik would fail to make candidates.
Nov-11-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  plang: I think the intent is to take the players
who have consistently excelled not the player who is "hot".
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