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|Oct-16-16|| ||Marmot PFL: Great result for Timman in view of the lifetime score in their games.|
|Oct-16-16|| ||Beholder: A Karpov - Timman match. Did I step into a time machine?|
|Oct-16-16|| ||diagonal: Those two guys (both born in 1951), have the second and third most games in Chessgames' database, clearly behind Korchnoi (1931-2016), just ahead of Ivanchuk (born 1969), stats as of October 2016.
Note, Chessbase Mega differs considerably, veteran <Iván Faragó>, is supposed to have the second largest number of Class A games there, after Viktor Korchnoi.|
I guess, that also globetrotter <Vladimir Epishin>, an example of a grandmaster who could claim at the highest level only for a few years, the fate of so many professional chess players just one step beyond the very best, remaining a very busy Open participant.
Think also of traveller <Sergei Tiviakov>, winner of the European Individual Chess Championship in 2008 and always dangerous for anyone, or Lithuanian world voyageur <Eduardas Rozentalis>, there aren't that many countries in which he hasn't played a competitive game, or multiple British Rapid Chess Champion <Mark Hebden>, who also seems to be playing non-stop.
The current generation plays more games (rapid and blitz games were rather rare on top level in earlier times, no more adjourned games today) per year on average, but some top-players retire really at young age..
What players have the most games in the cg. database?
1. Viktor Korchnoi (4,418)
<2. Anatoly Karpov (3,540)>
<3. Jan Timman (3,503)>
4. Vassily Ivanchuk (3,454)
5. Svetozar Gligoric (3,147)
6. Viswanathan Anand (3,037)
7. Alexey Shirov (2,911)
8. Mikhail Tal (2,806)
9. Vladimir Kramnik (2,776)
10. Lajos Portisch (2,751)
11. Boris Gelfand (2,743)
12. Michael Adams (2,694)
13. Vlastimil Hort (2,641)
14. Vasily Smyslov (2,625)
15. Nigel Short (2,600)
16. Loek van Wely (2,576)
17. Bent Larsen (2,525)
18. Borislav Ivkov (2,494)
19. Peter Svidler (2,479)
20. Anthony Miles (2,428)
|Oct-21-16|| ||Sokrates: Very interesting read - thanks, <diagonal>!|
|Oct-21-16|| ||offramp: <diagonal: Those two guys (both born in 1951), have the second and third most games in Chessgames' database, clearly behind Korchnoi (1931-2016), just ahead of Ivanchuk (born 1969), stats as of October 2016. Note, Chessbase Mega differs considerably, veteran <Iván Faragó>, is supposed to have the second largest number of Class A games there, after Viktor Korchnoi.>|
Yes, thank you <Diagonal>. Here is a weird one. A few years ago I mentioned high numbers of games at Ivan Farago.
I said more or less what you said:
<offramp: He has played the second largest number of Class A games, after Viktor Kortschnoj.>
Seems harmless enough, doesn't it?
But NO! This innocuous statement enraged User: King Death who threw her hat to the floor and bellowed,
<King Death: To make GM both of these players must have had a few decent ones in spite of your ridiculous statement. Maybe one day you'll get within a light year or two of them in playing strength.>
I am still baffled at how she could have been so offended.
|Oct-22-16|| ||diagonal: <offramp> after an innoxious (innocent) metrical statement on Farago's number of games, a player who did normally not cause *So* many emotions, you got then such an obnoxious answer.|
Well, during your long and and inspirational work on cg, this was by its nature one of your most matter-of-fact postings :) Keep going!
Thanks for your link with the most-active list in the ChessBase Mega Database list, posted here: Ivan Farago, for a detailed bio, in Hungarian: https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farag...
|Oct-22-16|| ||perfidious: Maybe <King Death> thought 'Class A' was meant the way it is in USCF rating parlance (laughs).|
It is odd really, given Timman's low opinion of the King's Indian as Black, to see him essay the opening at both opportunities in this short match.
|Oct-26-16|| ||offramp: <Diagonal> for an even more obnoxiousnesserer response see the incredible anecdote at
|Oct-26-16|| ||perfidious: <offramp> Don't yew call me Class A, mistah! Ah ain't bin thet low in a coon's age!|
|Oct-26-16|| ||offramp: <perfidious> I do not know what Class A means in the USCF.|
In British cricket <List A> means all the top class games played among the very top players, but not the very short 20-over matches.
So Class A chess, in my mind, means long time-control chess among strong opponenets.
|Oct-26-16|| ||perfidious: <offramp> 'Class A' in USCF ratings is 1800-1999.|
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