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|Jun-20-17|| ||whiteshark: Day two of the FIDE World Team Championships saw a lot of hard-fought games with the favorites not always getting their way. |
After a surprise draw against Ukraine, <Turkey> was able to hold Russia to a draw as well, and it was not for lack of effort on the Russians' part. <China> overcame India in a match that could have gone either way. ... Large illustrated report with many games analyzed by GM Alex Yermolinsky.
|Jun-20-17|| ||Pedro Fernandez: Yeah <Sharky>, what a surprise, greetings!|
|Jun-20-17|| ||tamar: India crushed USA 3.5-0.5 today
Adhihan continued his comeback against Akobian finding the devilish 14...Rxf3!
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15 Bxf3 Qf8! 16 Ke2 (avoids 16...Bb4 and 16...Qxf3, now what?) 16...b4 17 Qc4 Qxf3+! 18 Kxf3 Ne5+
|Jun-20-17|| ||whiteshark: <World Teams Rd. 2-3: Only Poland are perfect>|
The <Polish men’s team> has the only 100% score in either section of the 2017 World Team Championship, with Radek Wojtaszek making up for his first round defeat by crushing Sam Shankland in Round 2.
Behind them are China and Russia on 5/6, with China drawing the USA and Russia held by the unbeaten Turkish team. Russia's hopes of overall victory were boosted by Ian Nepomniachtchi demolishing Anton Korobov to beat Ukraine.
chess24 report: https://chess24.com/en/read/news/wo...
Greetings <Pedro Fernandez>!
|Jun-20-17|| ||botvinnik64: Turkey takes down Poland - amazing. Meanwhile the 3 1/2 - 1/2 win of India over USA is a bit of a shock given the lopsided score, but not necessarily the final result.|
|Jun-20-17|| ||Sally Simpson: "Poland brought their A Team as did China minus Ding..."|
But Ding Liren is playing, (so far 3 draws). Is there another Ding, a stronger Ding. I dink we should be told.
USA have a ready made excuse with the three top guns missing. No pressure there, the lads should just settle down and enjoy themselves.
Norway have no such excuse, Carlsen is only man not ¾ of a team. (under current form Norway may be better off without him :) )
|Jun-20-17|| ||fisayo123: I'm not really surprised by Turkey's performance so far. They've been a solid team for a while and now have some promising talents coming through. Vahap Sanal, Batuhan Dastan, Ali Marandi. They play good chess. Turkey also has Alexander Ipatov, a top 100 player who I believe is currently schooling in the United States and is not present here.|
|Jun-20-17|| ||JohnBoy: Robson and Xiong out of top 100. Brutal day for the yanks.|
|Jun-20-17|| ||botvinnik64: Sally S:
I stand corrected, thanks: Ding is with the Chinese delegation. They look to be in cruise control. Only Turkey can stop them! (We'll see.)
|Jun-20-17|| ||PawnSac: It sure would be nice if CG could post a list of the teams. The individual players are above, but this is a TEAM match, so team lists and stats would be helpful.|
|Jun-20-17|| ||tamar: http://ugra2017.fide.com/teams/|
|Jun-20-17|| ||botvinnik64: tamar:
|Jun-21-17|| ||paavoh: @PawnSac: <It sure would be nice if CG could post a list of the teams.> Your wish came true, the link is shown above.|
|Jun-21-17|| ||Troller: <USA have a ready made excuse with the three top guns missing. No pressure there, the lads should just settle down and enjoy themselves.|
Norway have no such excuse, Carlsen is only man not ¾ of a team. (under current form Norway may be better off without him :) )>
Norway is also missing their three top players, like the US, in fact as can be seen below the US brings a stronger team country-wise than Norway.
Country-ranked players for each team:
China is the only team to bring top-4, but Belarus, Poland and Turkey (although without Ipatov) clearly are taking this seriously as well. Ukraine and the US are bringing only top-10 players, but are missing top-2 and top-3 respectively. India is almost the same. Russia, Norway and especially Egypt (but why??) are bringing the comparatively weakest teams.
|Jun-21-17|| ||whiteshark: R4:
Day four saw a few astonishing results in the Open section that none could foresee. The <Turkish team,> which came as one of the lowest rated in the field, faced Poland, hitherto resting on a perfect 3/3. The Turks had done excellent, drawing two top teams, but in round four, they <defeated Poland in a big upset.> Still, the biggest surprise had to be <India’s crushing 3.5-0.5 win over the USA> with some inspired chess. Here is the illustrated report with GM analysis.
|Jun-21-17|| ||cro777: Big wheel keep on turning … Turkey’s rolling on the World Team Championship continues.|
Turkey – China 2-2 (Four draws)
These names are worthy of being noticed (from left to right in the photo):
GM’s Dragan Solak, Mustafa Yilmaz, Vahap Sanal, Emre Can and Muhammed Batuhan Dastan.
GM Michał Krasenkow, the coach of the Turkish team, is a Polish chess grandmaster (born in Moscow and emigrated to Poland), a chess trainer and writer. He has made major contributions to several areas of opening theory.
|Jun-21-17|| ||keypusher: <cro777> Looks like a young team. Is Suat Atalik not active anymore? Is he not strong enough?|
|Jun-21-17|| ||botvinnik64: Atalik active; not sure why he's not here.
Krasnekow is no stranger to top flight chess: I remember he won the NY Open many years ago (in the 90's?) against a very strong field. I think he was robbed of everything as soon as he disembarked from his flight back in Europe - really horrible.
An opening theoretician, I followed his work in the English systems with the early g4 spike. Quite interesting. Great to see his students succeed!
|Jun-21-17|| ||cro777: <keypusher> Suat Atalik (age 53), the first Turkish grandmaster, is still active. He is currently playing at the Silver lake Open 2017 in Serbia.|
As far as this championship is concerned, the younger players Sanal (age 19) and Dastan (age 20) have been given a chance.
|Jun-21-17|| ||nok: <Suat Atalik (...) is still active. He is currently playing at the Silver lake Open 2017 in Serbia.> Do you work for the NSA or something?|
|Jun-21-17|| ||I Like Fish: |
where can i...
join team white...
|Jun-21-17|| ||Nf8: <Country-ranked players for each team:
China is the only team to bring top-4, but Belarus, Poland and Turkey (although without Ipatov) clearly are taking this seriously as well. Ukraine and the US are bringing only top-10 players, but are missing top-2 and top-3 respectively. India is almost the same. Russia, Norway and especially Egypt (but why??) are bringing the comparatively weakest teams.>
I think Russia, the US & India are taking this quite seriously as well, at least at the level of the federations. In the case of the US, nos. 1-3 & 5 are simply unavailable (So, Caruana & Nakamura due to conflicting schedules with Altibox Norway & the Grand Tour, Kamsky retired from the national team a few years ago). Same for Russia's nos. 1-3; whereas their "10" & "12" (Matlakov & Fedoseev) are actually 6 & 9 according to live ratings, and were last-minute replacements for Jakovenko & Inarkiev probably because they're considered as "hot" players in good form - they've just finished the European Championship with great results (Matlakov won it), and Fedoseev is having a very good year in general (gained about 50 rating points in the last half year). Of course, Russia also has the luxury of several 2700+ players at a similar level to choose from - at least rating-wise, the difference between their no.6 and no.10 is very small, whereas the difference between USA's no.3 & no.4 is huge. And in India, Anand doesn't want to play in the national team for a very long time (his last time was 2006, I believe).
|Jun-21-17|| ||PhilFeeley: Re: <Suat Atalik>: If you check his <CG> page you'll find that he was banned by the Turkish Chess Federation in 2012 for petty reasons. He's never played for any of their teams since.|
|Jun-22-17|| ||ketchuplover: You don't win by resigning for your country. You win by making the other poor dumb bastard resign for his country!|
|Jun-22-17|| ||AylerKupp: <chessgames.com> Any chance that you could calculate and post the team standings as part of this page's header? After all, it IS a team competition and it's the team standings that count. You list the player standings in a regular tournament, and it wouldn't take up any more space.|
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