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|Jun-21-17|| ||Troller: <USA have a ready made excuse with the three top guns missing. No pressure there, the lads should just settle down and enjoy themselves.|
Norway have no such excuse, Carlsen is only man not ¾ of a team. (under current form Norway may be better off without him :) )>
Norway is also missing their three top players, like the US, in fact as can be seen below the US brings a stronger team country-wise than Norway.
Country-ranked players for each team:
China is the only team to bring top-4, but Belarus, Poland and Turkey (although without Ipatov) clearly are taking this seriously as well. Ukraine and the US are bringing only top-10 players, but are missing top-2 and top-3 respectively. India is almost the same. Russia, Norway and especially Egypt (but why??) are bringing the comparatively weakest teams.
|Jun-21-17|| ||whiteshark: R4:
Day four saw a few astonishing results in the Open section that none could foresee. The <Turkish team,> which came as one of the lowest rated in the field, faced Poland, hitherto resting on a perfect 3/3. The Turks had done excellent, drawing two top teams, but in round four, they <defeated Poland in a big upset.> Still, the biggest surprise had to be <India’s crushing 3.5-0.5 win over the USA> with some inspired chess. Here is the illustrated report with GM analysis.
|Jun-21-17|| ||cro777: Big wheel keep on turning … Turkey’s rolling on the World Team Championship continues.|
Turkey – China 2-2 (Four draws)
These names are worthy of being noticed (from left to right in the photo):
GM’s Dragan Solak, Mustafa Yilmaz, Vahap Sanal, Emre Can and Muhammed Batuhan Dastan.
GM Michał Krasenkow, the coach of the Turkish team, is a Polish chess grandmaster (born in Moscow and emigrated to Poland), a chess trainer and writer. He has made major contributions to several areas of opening theory.
|Jun-21-17|| ||keypusher: <cro777> Looks like a young team. Is Suat Atalik not active anymore? Is he not strong enough?|
|Jun-21-17|| ||botvinnik64: Atalik active; not sure why he's not here.
Krasnekow is no stranger to top flight chess: I remember he won the NY Open many years ago (in the 90's?) against a very strong field. I think he was robbed of everything as soon as he disembarked from his flight back in Europe - really horrible.
An opening theoretician, I followed his work in the English systems with the early g4 spike. Quite interesting. Great to see his students succeed!
|Jun-21-17|| ||cro777: <keypusher> Suat Atalik (age 53), the first Turkish grandmaster, is still active. He is currently playing at the Silver lake Open 2017 in Serbia.|
As far as this championship is concerned, the younger players Sanal (age 19) and Dastan (age 20) have been given a chance.
|Jun-21-17|| ||nok: <Suat Atalik (...) is still active. He is currently playing at the Silver lake Open 2017 in Serbia.> Do you work for the NSA or something?|
|Jun-21-17|| ||I Like Fish: |
where can i...
join team white...
|Jun-21-17|| ||Nf8: <Country-ranked players for each team:
China is the only team to bring top-4, but Belarus, Poland and Turkey (although without Ipatov) clearly are taking this seriously as well. Ukraine and the US are bringing only top-10 players, but are missing top-2 and top-3 respectively. India is almost the same. Russia, Norway and especially Egypt (but why??) are bringing the comparatively weakest teams.>
I think Russia, the US & India are taking this quite seriously as well, at least at the level of the federations. In the case of the US, nos. 1-3 & 5 are simply unavailable (So, Caruana & Nakamura due to conflicting schedules with Altibox Norway & the Grand Tour, Kamsky retired from the national team a few years ago). Same for Russia's nos. 1-3; whereas their "10" & "12" (Matlakov & Fedoseev) are actually 6 & 9 according to live ratings, and were last-minute replacements for Jakovenko & Inarkiev probably because they're considered as "hot" players in good form - they've just finished the European Championship with great results (Matlakov won it), and Fedoseev is having a very good year in general (gained about 50 rating points in the last half year). Of course, Russia also has the luxury of several 2700+ players at a similar level to choose from - at least rating-wise, the difference between their no.6 and no.10 is very small, whereas the difference between USA's no.3 & no.4 is huge. And in India, Anand doesn't want to play in the national team for a very long time (his last time was 2006, I believe).
|Jun-21-17|| ||PhilFeeley: Re: <Suat Atalik>: If you check his <CG> page you'll find that he was banned by the Turkish Chess Federation in 2012 for petty reasons. He's never played for any of their teams since.|
|Jun-22-17|| ||ketchuplover: You don't win by resigning for your country. You win by making the other poor dumb bastard resign for his country!|
|Jun-22-17|| ||AylerKupp: <chessgames.com> Any chance that you could calculate and post the team standings as part of this page's header? After all, it IS a team competition and it's the team standings that count. You list the player standings in a regular tournament, and it wouldn't take up any more space.|
|Jun-22-17|| ||sonia91: <AylerKupp> CG.com doesn't read the kibitzing boards, better ask in their forum. By the way, cg.com never made team standings.|
|Jun-22-17|| ||ozu: <ketchuplover> BRAVIS|
|Jun-24-17|| ||Imran Iskandar: Li Chao helps China edge Russia 3.5-2.5 and grab sole lead!|
|Jun-25-17|| ||cro777: The defending champion Chinese men's team before the victory over Russia (2.5-1.5) in the seventh round: |
(From right to left): Ding Liren, Yu Yangyi, Wei Yi, Li Chao with (standing) GMs Ye Jiangchuan, head coach, and Xu Jun, coach.
Standings after 7 rounds:
United States, Turkey 8
|Jun-25-17|| ||Chessinfinite: Vidit Gujrati in a very strong position against Svidler. India - Russia is very exciting at the 2 remains boards.|
|Jun-25-17|| ||Chessinfinite: ..and Vidit blew a +6 winning advantage against Svidler.. what a blowout. He should have just taken the bishop on h3 and it was still winning.. unbelievable.
Fight is on in the 2 games.|
|Jun-25-17|| ||Chessinfinite: Fedoseev has to find Nd6 against Negi to win in a complex position and Vidit has managed to steal draw from Victory!.. this is very tight.|
|Jun-25-17|| ||Syphic101: Ideal Chinese A team:
Board 1: Wei Yi = No pressure against him to perform against other board one players who are older and have more experience. This will put pressure on his board one opponents instead!
Board 2: Ding Liren = Super solid against weaker players. Needs to show his superiority.
Board 3: Wang Hao = Highly aggressive player. Will get plenty of wins against other board 3 opponents.
Board 4: Yu Yangyi = One of China's most promising players. The backbone of Team China.
Backup: Bu Xiangzhi = Best sub who can play any board and compete well.
Strategy: Accumulate wins from Yu Yangyi and Wang Hao. Wei Yi can settle for draws and have no pressure to perform. Ding Liren needs to get some wins against weaker opposition on board two.
Bu Xiangzhi subs for anyone not performing well or needs rest.
What do people think?
|Jun-26-17|| ||12Knaves: @syphic101
Li Chao as backup instead of Bu Xiangzhi.
|Jun-26-17|| ||cro777: The Chinese team defended the World Team Championship title.|
1) China 16
2) Russia 15
3) Poland 12
GM Xu Jun (coach): "I think our key secret is that we have a very good team spirit, and our players have improved a lot during recent years". As GM Ye Jiangchuan (head coach) added, "this team is now more and more mature".
Li Chao and Ding Liren revealed the other secrets (blessed buddhist bracelet and playing billiards after dinner every evening):
|Jun-26-17|| ||SirRuthless: So is this like the B squad Olympiad or something?|
|Jun-26-17|| ||siamesedream: Congratulations to medalists, especially for my countrymen from <Poland>.|
|Jun-26-17|| ||12Knaves: <siamesdream> indeed, a valiant effort from the polish. I was particularly impressed by teenage wunderkind Duda, really rose to the challenge in this tourney.|
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