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|Jul-15-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: <I have the data to support my position if someone wants to challenge it.>|
No, you have not.
|Jul-15-17|| ||markz: Mamedyarov 340 points, Grischuk 336, Radjabov 241, Ding 240, MVL 211. Radjabov and Ding have higher odds for candidates.|
|Jul-15-17|| ||keypusher: < I have the data to support my position if someone wants to challenge it.>|
You have no data to support your position, SirRuthless. You don't know what Carlsen is going to do tomorrow, much less what he will do in 2018 when the next championship is going to take place.
|Jul-15-17|| ||perfidious: <sirgormless> may claim he has such 'data', but he, as well as all the other slaggers, should be mindful of the simple fact that there is an overwhelming body of evidence against their reflexively anti-Carlsen position.|
|Jul-15-17|| ||fisayo123: Congratulations to Teimour for being able to turn back the clock. Nobody saw this coming.|
|Jul-15-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: Congrats to Radjabov! I almost forgot.|
|Jul-15-17|| ||cro777: <devere: MVL needs a second place finish at Palma to pass both Shak and Grischuk, and Radja or Ding can do it with a third place finish at Palma.
Grischuk is unlikely to qualify, and Shak at this point is doubtful.>|
Grischuk: "I'm upset that I'm probably not going to qualify. I had to try to win today because with a draw I had very little chances to qualify."
Aronian, asked why he's performing much worse in these GP tournaments than in other major events: "I think I'm not taking it too seriously. I should work on it." (?!)
The last leg is scheduled to take place 16-25 November in Palma de Mallorca.
Another chance to grab two more spots the players will have at the World Cup in September in Tbilisi.
|Jul-15-17|| ||cro777: Candidates 2018 – Who will qualify by rating?
The top two players by rating (not already qualified) will qualify as long as they play in either the World Cup or the FIDE Grand Prix (see the column "Ratings" in the following table):
The current leaders are Wesley So and Fabiano Caruana. The qualification will be final in December 2017.
|Jul-15-17|| ||morfishine: Great tournament Radjabov!|
|Jul-15-17|| ||Whitehat1963: And Gelfand remained perfect!|
|Jul-15-17|| ||Whitehat1963: Not one of Gelfand's nine games reached the 40th move. Too willing to draw?|
|Jul-16-17|| ||whiteshark: <Whitehat1963: Perfect score for Gelfand!> Great minds...|
|Jul-16-17|| ||alexmagnus: <Not one of Gelfand's nine games reached the 40th move.>|
And 5 of the 9 games did not reach move 25.
|Jul-16-17|| ||alexmagnus: And you cannot even argument with "maximizing his chances" here|
|Jul-16-17|| ||JPi: To see Radjabov playing again which such vitality is a great pleasure. Congratulations for winning with fashion such great Tournament!|
|Jul-16-17|| ||MissScarlett: Excellent +1 result for Mickey. One gets the impression he's more than content with his place in the chess world. I trust he's invested his money wisely.|
|Jul-16-17|| ||AylerKupp: <<devere> MVL needs a second place finish at Palma to pass both Shak and Grischuk, and Radja or Ding can do it with a third place finish at Palma.>|
Mamedyarov currently has 340 points and Grischuk 336.4. As you said, the only players that can overtake Grischuk for the second spot are Radjabov (95 points needed), Ding Liren (96.4 points needed) and Vachier-Lagrave (125 points needed). They can do this in many ways but these are the minimums:
Radjabov: No worse than tie for 1-8 places (96.3 points), tie for 2-6 places (98 points), or tie for 3-4 places (100 points). Of course, an 8-way tie for 1-8 places is highly unlikely, but it is theoretically possible.
Ding: No worse than tie 1-7 places (102.9 points), tie for 2-6 places (98 points), or tie for 3-4 places (100 points). Again, a 7-way tie for 1-7 places is highly unlikely.
Vachier-Lagrave: No worse than tie for 1-4 places (127.5 points), or clear 2nd place (140 points).
Of course, any 2 of these players (or all 3) could place sufficiently well to displace both Mamedyarov and Grischuk. Radjabov in particular seems to be in fine form and a clear 3rd place would allow him to do that, as well as a clear 2nd for Ding Liren and Vachier-Lagrave. But who knows which version of these players will show up for Palma de Mallorca. One thing for sure, Mamedyarov and Grischuk will be biting their fingernails and, if they currently don't do that, they will probably start.
BTW, is Palma referred to as Palma de Mallorca or Palma de Majorca? In Spanish they would be pronounced the same way. The official site conveniently skirts the issue by referring to the last site as "Palma de M." :-)
|Jul-16-17|| ||markz: Normally, +1 worth less than 90 GP points, +2 worth more than 100. For Radja, Ding, and MVL, very clearly +1 will not be good enough. They need +2 in Palma to quality.|
|Jul-16-17|| ||cro777: <AylerKupp: Is Palma referred to as Palma de Mallorca or Palma de Majorca?>|
Majorca and Mallorca (in Spanish) are two names for the same Spanish island.
Majorca is the British term which has its roots in Latin ("major"). It is the largest of the Balearic islands.
Palma is the capital and the largest city of the Balearic islands, situated on the coast of Majorca (Mallorca).
|Jul-16-17|| ||Nf8: <Normally, +1 worth less than 90 GP points, +2 worth more than 100. For Radja, Ding, and MVL, very clearly +1 will not be good enough. They need +2 in Palma to qualify.>|
Sounds right - in FIDE Grand Prix Sharjah (2017) +2 was worth 140 points (shared 1-3), in FIDE Grand Prix Moscow (2017) also 140 (clear 2nd), and here 125 (shared 2-3). +1 was worth 70 points in Sharjah (shared 4-8), 71.4 in Moscow (shared 3-9), and 60 here (shared 4-10).
|Jul-17-17|| ||AylerKupp: <cro777> Thanks. It must be old age, but I had forgotten that Majorca was the name of the island. And since the name of the second largest of the Balearic islands is Minorca, then I think that Majorca is a more consistent spelling than Mallorca.|
|Jul-17-17|| ||BOSTER: Palma De Mallorca. This resort is famous by beautiful beaches.
But this is very attractive city to play chess because Fischer won here the great tour.|
|Jul-17-17|| ||ChessEscudero: Big boost for Radjabov to get back on his feet and return to being potential candidate for world championship that he was once.|
|Jul-17-17|| ||JointheArmy: <Congratulations to Teimour for being able to turn back the clock. Nobody saw this coming.>|
He just turned 30. 30 is the new 20, IMO.
|Jul-18-17|| ||ColdSong: I don't like Aronian's excuse of not being sufficiently prepared.A truly strong player is harmonious enough to avoid defeat even when he's not deeply prepared.|
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