|Sinquefield Cup (2017)|
The 2017 Sinquefield Cup, played 2-11 August in Saint Louis, Missouri USA, was an elite international event, featuring ten of the strongest chess players in the world. Over the course of nine rounds, the competitors battled for $300,000 in prize money, points toward the Grand Chess Tour (this was their 3rd event this year), and the coveted title of 2017 Sinquefield Cup Champion. (1)
Official site: (1) http://grandchesstour.org/2017-gran.... Crosstable: http://chess-results.info/tnr295251..., and with Grand Chess Tour points (GP):
Vachier-Lagrave took home $75,000 and 13 Grand Chess Tour points.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 GP
1 Vachier-Lagrave * 1 ˝ ˝ ˝ ˝ ˝ ˝ 1 1 6 13
=2 Carlsen 0 * ˝ 1 1 ˝ ˝ ˝ 1 ˝ 5˝ 9
=2 Anand ˝ ˝ * ˝ ˝ ˝ 1 ˝ ˝ 1 5˝ 9
=4 Aronian ˝ 0 ˝ * ˝ ˝ 0 1 1 1 5 6˝
=4 Karjakin ˝ 0 ˝ ˝ * 1 ˝ ˝ 1 ˝ 5 6˝
6 Svidler ˝ ˝ ˝ ˝ 0 * 1 ˝ ˝ ˝ 4˝ 5
7 Caruana ˝ ˝ 0 1 ˝ 0 * ˝ ˝ ˝ 4 4
8 Nakamura ˝ ˝ ˝ 0 ˝ ˝ ˝ * ˝ 0 3˝ 3
=9 So 0 0 ˝ 0 0 ˝ ˝ ˝ * 1 3 1˝
=9 Nepomniachtchi 0 ˝ 0 0 ˝ ˝ ˝ 1 0 * 3 1˝
Previous edition: Sinquefield Cup (2016).
| page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 45
|1. Caruana vs Carlsen
||½-½||43||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C78 Ruy Lopez|
|2. Karjakin vs Svidler
||1-0||39||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C53 Giuoco Piano|
|3. M Vachier-Lagrave vs W So
||1-0||43||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C50 Giuoco Piano|
|4. Anand vs Nakamura
||½-½||30||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense|
|5. Aronian vs I Nepomniachtchi
||1-0||29||2017||Sinquefield Cup||A34 English, Symmetrical|
|6. I Nepomniachtchi vs W So
||0-1||39||2017||Sinquefield Cup||A10 English|
|7. Nakamura vs M Vachier-Lagrave
||½-½||33||2017||Sinquefield Cup||B90 Sicilian, Najdorf|
|8. Carlsen vs Karjakin
||1-0||42||2017||Sinquefield Cup||A05 Reti Opening|
|9. Aronian vs Caruana
||0-1||110||2017||Sinquefield Cup||D27 Queen's Gambit Accepted, Classical|
|10. Svidler vs Anand
|| ||½-½||31||2017||Sinquefield Cup||D32 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tarrasch|
|11. W So vs Nakamura
||½-½||69||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C50 Giuoco Piano|
|12. Caruana vs I Nepomniachtchi
||½-½||38||2017||Sinquefield Cup||A07 King's Indian Attack|
|13. M Vachier-Lagrave vs Svidler
||½-½||43||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C78 Ruy Lopez|
|14. Karjakin vs Aronian
|| ||½-½||23||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C53 Giuoco Piano|
|15. Anand vs Carlsen
||½-½||66||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C78 Ruy Lopez|
|16. Carlsen vs M Vachier-Lagrave
||0-1||71||2017||Sinquefield Cup||A34 English, Symmetrical|
|17. Aronian vs Anand
||½-½||27||2017||Sinquefield Cup||A35 English, Symmetrical|
|18. Svidler vs W So
||½-½||29||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C53 Giuoco Piano|
|19. I Nepomniachtchi vs Nakamura
||1-0||33||2017||Sinquefield Cup||D37 Queen's Gambit Declined|
|20. Caruana vs Karjakin
||½-½||31||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense|
|21. Nakamura vs Svidler
|| ||½-½||53||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C84 Ruy Lopez, Closed|
|22. Karjakin vs I Nepomniachtchi
||½-½||60||2017||Sinquefield Cup||B09 Pirc, Austrian Attack|
|23. Anand vs Caruana
||1-0||29||2017||Sinquefield Cup||A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto|
|24. M Vachier-Lagrave vs Aronian
||½-½||45||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C50 Giuoco Piano|
|25. W So vs Carlsen
||0-1||29||2017||Sinquefield Cup||C45 Scotch Game|
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|Aug-13-17|| ||botvinnik64: Blitz and Rapid start tomorrow, I hope. Garry will either feel the pain or make others feel the pain. I hope a little bit of both...heh hehe|
|Aug-13-17|| ||ughaibu: Garry? Who the hell is that?|
|Aug-13-17|| ||cro777: "I am always optimistic, but at the age of 54 I would have as much hope of returning to my chess form of age 40 as to my hairline of age 20!", Garry said.|
"I'm delighted that my brief appearance back in front the pieces has drawn extra attention to the Saint Louis Rapid and Blitz event … My opponents include: Hikaru Nakamura, Fabiano Caruana, Levon Aronian, Sergey Karjakin, Ian Nepomniachtchi, David Navara, Le Quang Liem, and Lenier Dominguez. I have never faced any of them in an official competition before. That's certainly not the case with the last competitor, a fellow veteran from "the good old days," Vishy Anand, who just showed fantastic form in the classical Sinquefield Cup event."
|Aug-13-17|| ||BOSTER: < cro777>:<"I am always optimistic">
Bludni sine has returned.|
|Aug-14-17|| ||jith1207: I'm just wondering why people admire Kasparov as a chess champion when he clearly was not a man of good character in his playing days, while So needs to get his family situation straight in the "eyes of people, to the satisfaction of pathetic fans" in order to be eligible to considered as even worthy of challenging the title. Why can't you admire So in the same light? (Don't bring the nonsense of "love him as a player but not worthy of champion"..LOL)|
My opinion, that's hypocrisy and if you are a fan of chess, be a fan to the game. If these posters worry less about the drama around, and worry about the nuances of the game it world enrich them. But again most of these posters are not here for the love of the game, but for the frenetic following of whatever nonsense they choose to ruin their precious time and life. You don't see them analyse a single game for a name sake, but get triggered by the reality show they want to create around the game.
|Aug-14-17|| ||jith1207: However,I like Kasparov's humor and his approach and take of the life nowadays (and his Twitter feed) than I ever liked him as a world chess champion. If only he could keep the similar composure when he is playing the game, which according to History, it will be written that he was one of the greatest to play the game of chess. But history will put aside his antics and bad sportsmanship and how much his rivals had to endure all of that just because the people, arbiters and chess organisers won't condemn him ever. As much as I am in awe of his art and creation over the board, I can't help feel the irony of a seeing a child who can't help himself and be a man while playing the game. If you ask me, I will never consider him as not even in the discussion of legends of this game for these valid reasons.|
|Aug-14-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: "... I can't help feel the irony of a seeing a child who can't help himself and be a man while playing the game."|
Because they take a game way to seriously? On the other hand, if they didn't, we would not be talking here.
|Aug-14-17|| ||keypusher: < jith1207: I'm just wondering why people admire Kasparov as a chess champion when he clearly was not a man of good character in his playing days, while So needs to get his family situation straight in the "eyes of people, to the satisfaction of pathetic fans" in order to be eligible to considered as even worthy of challenging the title. Why can't you admire So in the same light? (Don't bring the nonsense of "love him as a player but not worthy of champion"..LOL)>|
I think there is a small group of people who feel that way about So, and for them it's personal, so to speak. Most people don't care about So's problems with his family and generally don't let their feelings for a chessplayer as a person affect how they think about him over the board. I prefer Euwe as a person to Alekhine or Fischer, but I prefer the latter two as chessplayers. I love Kasparov's chess and I'm glad that he's playing, even though I remember him often acting like a jerk during his career.
|Aug-14-17|| ||wordfunph: The big difference however is that during the times of Alekhine, Fischer and even Kasparov there was no internet yet, or chess games.com. They had no obnoxious and ridiculous followers who proclaimed them as some kind of demigods and who makes all sorts of excuses for them when they fail (like gravity, jet lag, etc.), who can't tolerate different opinions, and cause the banning of those who do not co-worship with them from their players' pages.|
|Aug-14-17|| ||Sally Simpson: I recall some of the posts on Wes So's page before it was cleaned up.|
These posts had nothing to do with chess and co-worship or different opinions. There were personal attacks on him and his private life.
|Aug-14-17|| ||wordfunph: I remember they were personal attacks on posters, the most cruel was the narrative that those who had helped him before did so out of personal motives (wanting to profit out of him, etc.).|
|Aug-14-17|| ||jith1207: Kasparov used to shut the door so loudly or throw chess pieces from the table (and much more) to disturb the opponents who play against him. Being serious while playing chess is normal, acting like a child to win games is not. That's not anywhere close to taking games seriously. Kasparov used to insult the game of chess by his antics. Just having huge talent doesn't excuse bad behavior and incapable FIDE failed miserably to chastise him and his opponents needed to get on with it!!|
|Aug-14-17|| ||kurious: Can someone please elaborate here on Anand's chances of qualifying for the next Candidates? Wish he had pressed more in the final round!|
|Aug-14-17|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi wordfunph,
I think we can both agree and the posts were nothing like the usual fare one sees in a chess forum.
It went a lot deeper than differences of opinion and none worshippers.
|Aug-14-17|| ||jith1207: <keypusher> I agree with you fully. I admire Kasparov for his chess even though I used to despise him for his character those days. Now, that he has got older and wiser, he seems more likeable. Ha ha.|
<WorstPlayerEver> I hear you and agree that important point about Kasparov. His character made him the chess player he was to a great extent, however it would have been very impressive had he been able to keep the composure to manageable level "while the game is going on!!!!".
That's where I like Magnus a lot, he occasionally shows that antics and skips the press conference when he loses, but at least he doesn't direct his anger at anybody else and he just goes off to his privacy to calm himself. And, Magnus acts admirably when he is playing. To me, Carlsen is better world champion than Kasparov just because Kasparov couldn't understand that the game of chess is ultimately larger than himself or any genius legend that could have played ever.
|Aug-14-17|| ||jith1207: <kurious>
Anand has more chances in following ways to qualify than anywhere else:
A. Be a winner or runner up in the world cup finals.
B. Hope the candidate tournament organisers decide to call him as a wild card contestant.
|Aug-14-17|| ||tpstar: <I remember they were personal attacks on posters, the most cruel was the narrative that those who had helped him before did so out of personal motives (wanting to profit out of him, etc.).>|
Wesley So and his career were not helped by posting Tipsy Star songs about drinking urine.
What was the Wesley Chess Café besides a blatant attempt to exploit him and his success? I respect the former BW President for repeatedly trying to right the ship despite so many loose cannons, but the toxic atmosphere on that page was a giant negative.
Wesley needed support and guidance when he left RP for the US - not Canada, but the US. For whatever reasons, that help was not there. Too late now.
<Just having huge talent doesn't excuse bad behavior> Kasparov is lucky to not have social media at the time, so we could see his tantrums over and over again. =)
|Aug-14-17|| ||saffuna: <What was the Wesley Chess Café besides a blatant attempt to exploit him and his success?>|
People interested should go back and read the So page from five or seven years ago. It was absolutely insane, unhinged. <tpstar> had to stand up to some fearful abuse from posters.
|Aug-14-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: "Being serious while playing chess is normal, acting like a child to win games is not. That's not anywhere close to taking games seriously."|
Hmm.. Garry can only go that far as the other players let him go. It's a community question...
For instance, as WPE you will need a lot of nasty tricks in your bag.
One of them is: ganging up with "The Victims" ☺
|Aug-14-17|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi saffuna
I agree 100% with you. In the UK People are serving time in jail for something they posted on the net.
Some of those posts in the bad old days were criminal.
And I am a great admirer of Wes's play and have spoken to people who have met him, he is a genuine nice guy.
But that article in NIC, which IMHO the editors should have refused to print.
It was obviously written in haste and who amongst has not regretted posting a reaction in haste. And who never did silly things when in their late teens, early 20's. I know I did and a few of them I am 'now' ashamed off.
That article did him no favours and because it was in a chess magazine the anti-Wes So mob felt justified in brining the gossip to the forums. It fed them for months and if truth be told it took away our 'a it's private matter and should not be discussed here' reply.
That was a bad move. But unlike chess, that one can be...in time...be taken back.
Give it time.
|Aug-14-17|| ||HeMateMe: you can be fired, lose your job, in the USA for things posted on your Face Book page. I suppose it's the same in England and Australia. That's why I'm not on Face Book. I wouldn't even want strangers to post things on my account. It invites problems.|
One prank played with Face book is people will take a photo of someone they don't like and create a fake Facebook account, maybe change one letter in the name to be able to create the account, something like that, make it a strange, unflattering page with obscenities, strange pictures, things like that. Assume the worst in a small number of people because it's out there--the worst.
|Aug-14-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: Hmmm... in Dutch we have a verb which -literally- means: to oldwhore lol |
Babbling around way too long about a certain irrelevant question in such way that it becomes most irritating.
|Aug-14-17|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi H.M.M.
Instant dismissal if you post anything about our place of work on the net without permission.
When I joined Red Hot Pawn my intention as I have with other sites was just to play blitz.
I noticed something was wrong in a forum, corrected it and was soon answering other questions and helping out.
One day some guy said I sounded like me!
Next thing I know I get threatened with a ban for impersonating me and emails saying someone on RHP was pretending to be me.
It took some convincing before they accepted me was me.
Then they were then very disappointed. Apparently The real me was not as good as the impersonator. :)
(Charlie Chaplin once came third in a Charlie Chaplin look-a-like contest.)
|Aug-14-17|| ||ChessHigherCat: <WorstPlayerEver: Hmmm... in Dutch we have a verb which -literally- means: to oldwhore lol>|
Interesting, I really like the Dutch language. I just started a year ago because I wanted to learn a new language that wouldn't take forever (like Thai, for example) and that is related to other languages I know (unlike Thai, for example). What is the whole word? When I click on your link I'm redirected to "Privacy Statement" with a search form but I can't look up the word because all I can see of it is "ouweho"
<Sally Simpson> I've always suspected you of impersonating you and now you've finally confessed!
|Aug-14-17|| ||not not: Its shame UK gov and press can only switch comments under news and articles off or moderate them in advance, and threaten internet users with jail, in order to make sure british public dont say what they really think. It would be much better to tape people mouth down each local pub and introduce PC patrols.|
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