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|Aug-19-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: It was a total disgrace. I never seen anything like it in chess. Pinball is pinball. Chess is chess. |
Dear Fabi, you have so much talent, but still you didn't lose to these players, you did lose to your conscience, which said to you: "This tournament is as phoney as it can get."
You've been studying hard to improve your rapid/blitz skills and this is your "award."
No need to thank me 😊
|Aug-19-17|| ||Richard Taylor: Kasparov came back and was almost in form at the end. It is unlikely he will play many games (he said it) but there he was winning or at least drawing against strong players in most of the final day's games. |
Anand had fallen from glory. Anand was a worthy champion also. It is sad to see him where he is now. He must feel rather unhappy after the tournament.
|Aug-19-17|| ||Octavia: Sergey! well done! You're the blitz king!|
|Aug-19-17|| ||Domdaniel: After 'My Great Predecessors' will we now see 'My So-called Successors' ...?|
|Aug-19-17|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi WorstPlayerEver,
"they could have slaughtered Garry if they had liked to."
If you think that then you do not understand chess players. They did slaughter him in the rapid and were trying their best to beat him in the blitz.
People posted about Garry tarnishing his reputation. It was the other's players reputation on the line. Garry Kasparov's reputation and legacy is safe for eternity.
" It was a 'publicity stunt to promote chess."
Nakamura's face and attitude after his loss to Le Quang Liem. Le Quang Liem vs Nakamura, 2017 shows the players were taking this very seriously. Thinking different again displays a lack of how seriously chess players take their profession.
""...not having played in 12 years"....baloney."
We may speculate he has played a few games against friends but as you must know there is a huge difference between skittles v a few friends and going head to head against nine other seasoned professional players under tournament conditions with every move being beamed live around the world.
Two or three years perhaps but twelve years is a long time. The other factor is age.
Although I stated earlier age was an issue and 5 of the players were not even born when Garry was world champion on the last day it appeared their stamina was waning and not Garry's.
|Aug-19-17|| ||Appaz: <tarnishing his reputation>|
It's of course all in the eye of the beholder, but I don't think Korchnoi or Karpov tarnished their reputation by playing on long after they had left the absolute top. On the contrary, at least Korchnoi became an even bigger legend.
|Aug-19-17|| ||Beholder: <Appaz: It's of course all in the eye of the beholder>|
It sure is, can confirm.
|Aug-19-17|| ||botvinnik64: Smyslov was 63 when he faced Kasparov in the Candidates'...|
|Aug-19-17|| ||HeMateMe: great to see Kaspy back in action. He's gone .500 against the world's best players, here.|
|Aug-19-17|| ||LameJokes55: |
A player staying on till twilight years, is one thing. Coming out of retirement is another. Later needs guts.
Thanks to the legend for making an appearance. As he himself pointed out, one of the objectives was to give a leg up to Sinquefield, an event he promotes with great passion.
|Aug-19-17|| ||LameJokes55: |
Congrats Aronian for winning the event! He is in great form this year. If he continues, in the same vein, no.1 slot (classical) is no longer safe from his outreach.
The thing, dearest to him, would be a place in the candidates. It would be a pity if he miss out there.
|Aug-19-17|| ||Domdaniel: It is understandable that kibitzers here can't analyse as well as the players - after all, none of us are GMs*.
It is not so excusable when some posters use engine analysis to masquerade as masters.
And it is simply baffling when people utterly fail to grasp the motivation of elite grandmasters, as <Sally S> correctly points out.|
* none of us are GMs ...
Actually, I am - just not that kind.
|Aug-19-17|| ||Domdaniel: <LameJokeSS> - < Later needs guts. >|
"And you'll notice /
That the waster and the wasted /
Get to look like one another /
In the end ..."
John Cale, Guts
|Aug-19-17|| ||alexmagnus: Caruana finished last in the blitz section. What is it with Caruana and blitz? How comes he is so much weaker in blitz than in classical?|
|Aug-19-17|| ||Sokrates: <alexmagnus: Caruana finished last in the blitz section. What is it with Caruana and blitz? How comes he is so much weaker in blitz than in classical?> |
I think it's a common and well-known phenomenon. In my active days (during the Punic Wars!) I had quite a few chess-friends, my best friend among them, who were remarkably weaker at blitz-games than the classics. My friend had a higher rating than me, but in blitzes I was the superior. If blitz-ratings had existed in the 60s I would most certainly have had a much higher score on that account.
The reason? Probably something caused by the constitution of your brain. Some men think deeply, thoroughly, but slowly, others quickly and practically. As for Caruana, he strikes me as a very cautious, safety-first kind of player, who simply can't force himself into positions of high risk and dubious outcome. Carlsen, on the contrary, is packed with self-confidence and probably thinks, he can twist his way out of the mess he might create.
|Aug-19-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: <Anand had fallen from glory. Anand was a worthy champion also. It is sad to see him where he is now. He must feel rather unhappy after the tournament.>|
Yeah, it must be a great burden for Anand to be nr. 7 seven of the world coming recently from the 10th spot. At age 47.
Weird, I don't see Kaspy anywhere in the list. How come? ☺
|Aug-19-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: PS oh now I understand; it's a hideous sneer at So, who is number 8. I guess one must be completely retarded if one thinks So stays at the 8th spot for all too long.|
|Aug-19-17|| ||tamar: Botvinnik opined that Rapid and Blitz were harmful to chess on general because they bred a sloppiness of thought.|
The majority off the elite players move from one time control to the others easily, probably because as Sokrates said about Carlsen, they feel confident in their abilities to recover from messy positions,
Caruana still has a sky high blitz rating, so he can on occasion play well, but he seemed to lose confidence here.
|Aug-19-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: I don't think a 100m sprinter will ever win a marathon.|
But okay, you all have tried your best 😊
|Aug-19-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: PS Of course chess isn't a physical sport, but still...|
Fide rating list january 2013:
1. Carlsen 2861
30. Vachier Lagrave 2713
1. Carlsen 2823
2. Vachier Lagrave 2803
Vachier Lagrave is 39 days younger than Carlsen
|Aug-19-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: <tamar>
Interesting. Let's see if Botvinnik was right. The rapid/blitz ratings were introduced in 2012.
Curious enough the above classical list of january 2013 had 48 2700+ members, the current list only 44.
Obviously this goes against the theory of rating inflation. How come? ☺
|Aug-19-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: PS
|Aug-19-17|| ||Domdaniel: <WorstPlayerEver> - <The rapid/blitz ratings were introduced in 2012.>|
Ratings for rapidplay were around back in the 1980s - I think it was called 'active chess' then.
|Aug-19-17|| ||Myllarguten: Maxime Vachier-Lagrave is 39 days OLDER than Carlsen!|
|Aug-19-17|| ||WorstPlayerEver: <Myllarguten>
Thanks for correcting me!
Nope. And please give sources instead of something else. Saves me time. Thanks in advance.
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