The 43rd FIDE World Chess Olympiad took place from 24 September to 5 October 2018 in Batumi, Georgia. The biennial tournament was an 11-round Swiss open, with one rest day on 29 September. The Open section featured 185 teams from 183 countries, with the 919 players including almost the whole world chess elite, and there was also a Women's section: ... [more]
Player: Simon Bekker-Jensen
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|Oct-16-18|| ||perfidious: <Diademas...That "someone" has a rather poor fact checking ability. There are downloaded 4016 games from this tournament (open)...>|
That shortcoming is noted and is by no means limited to this page.
<....Rather impressive given that only 3997 games were played!*>
It will be remembered that in the early days of tournaments, some featured draws being replayed--maybe this happened here?!
<....So there may be some double entrees.>
I would love to go to restaurants and be served double entrees! (laughs)
|Oct-16-18|| ||Sokrates: <perfidious: ... I would love to go to restaurants and be served double entrees! (laughs)>|
Depends! I have a limit with oyster. :-)
|Oct-16-18|| ||perfidious: <Sokrates>, I have limits too--I just haven't learnt them yet!|
|Oct-17-18|| ||Keyser Soze: Leko, as usual looked rock solid, with a 13 moves draw. Impressive. ;p|
|Oct-17-18|| ||diceman: <Keyser Soze:
Leko, as usual looked rock solid, with a 13 moves draw. Impressive. ;p>
He changed his name to Goldilocks Leko.
|Oct-17-18|| ||Diademas: <perfidious: <....So there may be some double entrees.>|
I would love to go to restaurants and be served double entrees! (laughs)>
Dang, 51 years old and I still dont master the English language.
The world would be a much better place if we just could agree on speaking Norwegian. 😏🇳🇴
|Oct-17-18|| ||That Roger: <Every possible line of white has a drawable line for black? Or there is at least 1 guaranteed winning white line?>
Anyone have an answer? In the field by the way this is known as the Giri-Leko-Draupowlski conjecture|
|Oct-18-18|| ||Sokrates: <Diademas: ... The world would be a much better place if we just could agree on speaking Norwegian.>|
LOL - but you'd face the dilemma: which kind of Norwegian? In Norway there are 2-3 variations of Norwegian:
NYNORSK ("new Norwegian") which, in fact, is the old Norwegian from the valleys and hamlets in western Norway. It is the basic for Icelandish, since the settlers of Iceland in 7-800 primarily came from Norway. It belongs to the western part of ancient Nordic languanges. This variation has become more popular during the past decades. It is far more difficult to understand for Danes and Swedes than ...
BOKMÅL ("book language") connected to the informal RIKSMÅL ("state language") is derived from Danish and the eastern part of ancient Nordic. It's the language of Ludvig Holberg, Henrik Ibsen and Knut Hamsun and today it is still dominating in a blended form with nynorsk.
The Norwegians here are sure to correct me if I am wrong! :-)
Complicated? Oh yes! As said, bokmål offers no serious difficulties to understand if you are a Dane or a Swede, but nynorsk is a quite different language with a different vocabulary and grammar.
I don't know which variation Magnus Carlsen speaks, but my guess is riksmål. <Count Wedgemore>, can you enlighten?
|Oct-18-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: Your guess is correct, <sokrates>. Magnus grew up just outside Oslo in Lommedalen, Bærum kommune. Probably one of the least Nynorsk-speaking counties in Norway.|
|Oct-18-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: <sokrates: Complicated? Oh yes! As said, bokmål offers no serious difficulties to understand if you are a Dane or a Swede, but nynorsk is a quite different language with a different vocabulary and grammar.>|
My wife is from Italy, but has now lived in Norway for more than thirty years. She speaks Bokmål fluently, she's even basically lost her (for me enchanting and very charming..) distinct Italian accent over the years.
But she still struggles with understanding some of what a Nynorsk-speaking individual says, especially if it isn't normed Nynorsk, but some western dialect, like inner Vestlandet, (Sogn, for instance). So I get what you're saying, <sokrates>!
|Oct-18-18|| ||Sokrates: Hi, <Count W>,|
I can imagine the charm of bokmål with an Italian accent. - When I was working I was involved in quite a few Nordic projects which included a collaboration with Norwegians. Over the years it occurred to me that they became still harder to understand and they told me that there was an increasing spread of words from nynorsk.
What is your impression on that? It might have been a coincidence, since, of course, I only met a limited number of Norwegians, mainly from the Oslo region.
|Oct-18-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: <Sokrates> Your experience that some Nynorsk words have been picked up and was increasingly being used among Bokmål-speakers may have been due to the influx of people from Nynorsk-speaking areas into the Oslo region and the central Østlandet.|
But I don't think it's really that widespread, in fact the trend tends to go the opposite way: Nynorsk has been on a retreating trajectory for quite a long time now. More and more former mainly Nynorsk-speaking counties and municipalities around the country are increasingly switching over to Bokmål as their main language. You see it in statistics over what the pupils in school choose to be their main language.
Nowadays I think that there's only 2 out of Norway's 19 fylker (that's amt for you Danish guys) where Nynorsk speaking kids are a majority in the schools (Sogn og Fjordane & Møre og Romsdal).
|Oct-18-18|| ||moronovich: Try to imagine Marve Fleksness speaking in English ;)|
|Oct-18-18|| ||moronovich: An italian wife <Count> !?
Sounds like a lucky man.
Do you in your daily life use some italian phrases/words ?
|Oct-18-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: <moronovich: Do you in your daily life use some italian phrases/words ?>|
Oh yes I do, <moro>. Over the years, me and my wife have developed a kind of our own
language when speaking with each other; kind of a strange Italo-Norwegian vocabulary. We always say Ciao! when one of us are leaving the house, things like that. And 'Buonanotte!' instead of 'Godnatt'. It's quite romantic :)
|Oct-18-18|| ||Diademas: <moronovich: Try to imagine Marve Fleksness speaking in English ;)>|
Well, here you are: https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&sour...
Its actually based on an English original.
|Oct-18-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: For my Danish friends, <Sokrates> and <moronovich>:|
<Fleksnes makes fun of Danish Number system>
|Oct-18-18|| ||moronovich: Great to hear <Count> !|
In a way,that is how life should be.
My wife and I also have a lot of fun playing with words.Homemade poetry is way better than the one delivered by e.g. TV or media.
|Oct-18-18|| ||moronovich: <Well, here you are: https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&sour...
Its actually based on an English original.>|
Thanks <Diademas> !
Very funny and I see were Marve is comming from.Till 2 minuttes ago he was always some of the most norwegian comedian I have come across...
But he still is :)
|Oct-18-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: <Diademas> An English Fleksnes? Wow, cool. I didn't even remember that it was based on an English original. Thanks for posting that link, looking forward to view that episode. Shall be fun to spot the differences (and similarities). Fleksnes is a national treasure.|
|Oct-18-18|| ||Diademas: <Sokrates: NYNORSK ("new Norwegian") which, in fact, is the old Norwegian from the valleys and hamlets in western Norway. It is the basic for Icelandish, since the settlers of Iceland in 7-800 primarily came from Norway.>|
That's not entirely true.
Nynorsk came about as an amalgamation of dialects spoken in rural Norway (mainly Western Noreway and Telemark) in the latter part of the 19th century.
Icelandic started up in the middle ages as what Norweians were speaking at the time (Old Norse*).
The Norwegian language has changed much more than Icelandic in the meantime, so Icelandic is much closer to what our ancestors spoke and wrote than both Nynorsk and Bokmål.
|Oct-18-18|| ||Diademas: A more modern Norwegian comic approach to the Danish language. ;)|
|Oct-18-18|| ||rogge: A classic :)|
|Oct-18-18|| ||Diademas: <Count Wedgemore: My wife is from Italy, but has now lived in Norway for more than thirty years. She speaks Bokmål fluently, she's even basically lost her (for me enchanting and very charming..) distinct Italian accent over the years.>|
I had an aunt who went completely the other way. She came from New York (originally Puerto Rico) in 1962, married my uncle, and lived here until she sadly passed away a few years ago.
The longer she lived here, the more atrocious her accent became. Up to a point where we had to revert to speaking English with her.
We all found it endearing, but must have made her daily life a bit hard.
Ps! <She speaks Bokmål fluently>
Technically Bokmål is a written standard, not a spoken one. As is Nynorsk.
|Oct-18-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: <Diademas: Ps! <She speaks Bokmål fluently> Technically Bokmål is a written standard, not a spoken one. As is Nynorsk.>>|
Yeah, yeah, I know..! But it was in the context of explaining why she struggled with her understanding of Nynorsk.
Nobody likes a stickler (even though I am quite a bit of a stickler myself sometimes) :=
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