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GCT St. Louis Rapid & Blitz Tournament

Levon Aronian15.5/27(+9 -5 =13)[games]
Yu Yangyi16.5/27(+12 -6 =9)[games]
Ding Liren16.5/27(+10 -4 =13)[games]
Maxime Vachier-Lagrave15/27(+13 -10 =4)[games]
Sergey Karjakin15.5/27(+12 -8 =7)[games]
Magnus Carlsen13/27(+9 -10 =8)[games]
Richard Rapport12.5/27(+9 -11 =7)[games]
Fabiano Caruana11/27(+7 -12 =8)[games]
Leinier Dominguez Perez10/27(+6 -13 =8)[games]
Shakhriyar Mamedyarov9.5/27(+6 -14 =7)[games]
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Chessgames.com Chess Event Description
GCT St. Louis Rapid & Blitz (2019)

The Saint Louis Rapid and Blitz was the 4th stage of the 2019 Grand Chess Tour. The 10-player tournament took place in the Saint Louis Chess Club from 10-14 August. The prize fund was $150,000, with $37,500 for 1st place. Seven tour regulars including World Champion Magnus Carlsen were joined by wildcards Leinier Dominguez, Yu Yangyi, and Richard Rapport. The rapid section on the first three days was a single round-robin with a time control of 25 minutes for all moves and a 10-second delay from move 1. The final two days were a blitz double round-robin, with 18 rounds of 5+3 blitz. Rapid games counted double, with 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw. A two-player tie for first would be decided by a 2-game rapid mini-match (10+5) and if necessary an Armageddon game (5 vs 4). (1) Tournament director: Tony D Rich. (2) Chief arbiter: Christopher Bird. (2)

Levon Aronian won with 22/27 and collected 13 Grand Chess Tour points (GP):

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 Pts GP 1 Aronian *** 1 11 200 20 2 01 2 10 211 22 13 =2 Yu Yangyi 1 *** 01 101 101 111 01 210 210 21 21 8⅓ =2 Ding Liren 10 20 *** 011 11 210 11 111 11 1 21 8⅓ =2 Vachier-Lagrave 011 110 200 *** 20 00 201 210 201 21 21 8⅓ 5 Karjakin 01 110 10 01 *** 210 101 111 011 210 19 6 6 Carlsen 0 100 001 21 001 *** 21 00 20 111 17 5 7 Rapport 20 20 10 010 110 00 *** 011 01 210 16 4 8 Caruana 0 001 100 001 100 21 200 *** 11 101 15 3 9 Dominguez 11 001 10 010 200 01 20 10 *** 000 13 2 10 Mamedyarov 000 00 1 00 001 100 001 110 211 *** 12 1

Official site: https://grandchesstour.org/2019-gra...
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Previous GCT event 2019: GCT Paris Rapid & Blitz (2019). Next: Sinquefield Cup (2019)

(1) Chess24: https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-t... (2) Chess-Results: https://chess-results.com/tnr462034...

 page 1 of 6; games 1-25 of 135  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Ding Liren vs Carlsen 1-0452019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzD39 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin, Vienna Variation
2. M Vachier-Lagrave vs R Rapport 1-0502019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzC02 French, Advance
3. Mamedyarov vs Aronian 0-1452019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzD38 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin Variation
4. Karjakin vs Yu Yangyi ½-½442019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzD05 Queen's Pawn Game
5. Ding Liren vs Caruana  ½-½382019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzD39 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin, Vienna Variation
6. Carlsen vs L Dominguez  1-0302019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzD35 Queen's Gambit Declined
7. Aronian vs Karjakin 1-0562019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzD05 Queen's Pawn Game
8. R Rapport vs Carlsen 0-1352019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzA06 Reti Opening
9. L Dominguez vs Ding Liren  ½-½352019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzC53 Giuoco Piano
10. Yu Yangyi vs R Rapport  0-1612019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzD06 Queen's Gambit Declined
11. M Vachier-Lagrave vs Aronian 0-1452019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzC53 Giuoco Piano
12. Karjakin vs Caruana  ½-½422019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzD78 Neo-Grunfeld, 6.O-O c6
13. Mamedyarov vs L Dominguez  1-0352019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzD35 Queen's Gambit Declined
14. Caruana vs Mamedyarov  ½-½232019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzC53 Giuoco Piano
15. Yu Yangyi vs M Vachier-Lagrave  ½-½662019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzD93 Grunfeld, with Bf4 & e3
16. Karjakin vs R Rapport  ½-½412019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzC55 Two Knights Defense
17. Aronian vs L Dominguez  ½-½702019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzC67 Ruy Lopez
18. Karjakin vs Mamedyarov  1-0622019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzC53 Giuoco Piano
19. R Rapport vs Caruana 0-1652019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzA07 King's Indian Attack
20. Yu Yangyi vs Carlsen  ½-½692019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzB08 Pirc, Classical
21. M Vachier-Lagrave vs Ding Liren 1-0642019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzC53 Giuoco Piano
22. L Dominguez vs Caruana  ½-½582019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzC78 Ruy Lopez
23. Ding Liren vs Yu Yangyi  1-0492019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzD37 Queen's Gambit Declined
24. Mamedyarov vs M Vachier-Lagrave  0-1552019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzD78 Neo-Grunfeld, 6.O-O c6
25. Caruana vs Carlsen 1-0392019GCT St. Louis Rapid & BlitzB30 Sicilian
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Aug-13-19  csmath: Caruana total and complete disaster today. 1.5 points out of 9, he even lost to Shak. :-) Is he smoking some weed?

Actually Magnus is 50% on blitz. Not too shabby. :-) Dethroned.

Aug-13-19
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  Count Wedgemore: Caruana doing poorly in blitz is hardly a surprise. He's never been a good blitz player. In fact, he's probably the weakest blitz player in the top 10 (classical). In the FIDE rankings he is currently no.2 in classical and no.15 in blitz, quite the difference. Most of the top classical players are usually great blitz players, but Caruana is an exception. Another example of such a discrepancy is Topalov. He's always sucked at blitz, relatively speaking.
Aug-13-19  csmath: That is why I think that WCC should be amended so that rapid and blitz are never to determine WC in classical.

In particular these blitzes today are really lousy chess. Rapid is definitely better but all of that is nothing compared to classical games and it will never be.

Aug-13-19
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  Count Wedgemore: <csmath: That is why I think that WCC should be amended so that rapid and blitz are never to determine WC in classical>

Absolutely. This is also what made the last WCC Match so disappointing for many chess fans and perhaps especially supporters of Carlsen (including myself). Magnus knew that he was superior to Caruana at faster time controls. In fact, he felt so convinced that he would crush Fabiano in the tie-breaks (and he was right to think that way :=), that he decided to take absolutely no chances in the classical portion of the match. That is why he offered a draw in Game 12, in a very favorable position, just to avoid any potential risks.

Aug-13-19  csmath: Conventional wisdom today has failed.

Blitz only:

Ding 6.5 (no loss!)
Karjakin 6.5 (lost one game to Rapport)
Rapport 6
Yu 5.5
Carlsen, MVL 4.5
Aronian 4
LDP 3.5
Shak 2.5
Caruana 1.5

You thought MVL and Carlsen are the best in blitz while Ding Liren sucks? Well, not in Missouri.

Aug-13-19  jerry crus: <That is why I think that WCC should be amended so that rapid and blitz are never to determine WC in classical.

In particular these blitzes today are really lousy chess. Rapid is definitely better but all of that is nothing compared to classical games and it will never be.> I agree, draw all they want even up to 100 games as long as who score first 2.0 wins the crown.

Aug-13-19  AsosLight: Is this the poorest showing from any reigning world champion in history? What do the experts have to say?
Aug-13-19  jphamlore: <AsosLight: Is this the poorest showing from any reigning world champion in history?>

Zurich Chess Challenge (Blitz) (2013)

And Carlsen wasn't even competing in that event.

Aug-13-19
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  Count Wedgemore: <AsosLight: Is this the poorest showing from any reigning world champion in history?>

No, it isn't.

Have a look at this:

Tal Memorial (2013)

Anand was still the reigning World Champion when this tournament was played. He lost the title to Carlsen a few months later.

Aug-13-19  csmath: You cannot really compare much to history since the previous champions did not play that much and certainly they did not compete often in rapid and blitz.

This blitz thing is a complete crap IMO. Carlsen could have won the game with Karjakin (second round today) in classical time control but in this 5-minute nonsense he blew it all away. This has to do more with luck than any other chess format.

Aug-13-19  nok: <Carlsen could have won the game with Karjakin (...) in classical time control but in this 5-minute nonsense he blew it all away.> That's kinda the point.
Aug-13-19  jphamlore: This disparagement of blitz is the ahistoric anomaly. Read the amazing tale of Genrikh Mikhailovich Chepukaitis, an ordinary welder who found through blitz chess a way to battle even world champions on somewhat even terms:

https://www.chess.com/blog/Zeitnot1...

Note this could happen because the then Soviet Union had two chess rival cities then Leningrad and Moscow with their own events, including yearly blitz championships: A format in which a welder without title could play his way into battling world champions.

Aug-14-19  Olavi: <
Count Wedgemore: <AsosLight: Is this the poorest showing from any reigning world champion in history?> No, it isn't.

Have a look at this:

Tal Memorial (2013)>

Carlsen also scored 3,5/9 in

Norway Chess (2015)

I think Kramnik had a similar result in the noughties. And these are classical tournaments.

Aug-14-19  KnightVBishop: Would you guys say Carlsen's focus on classical chess might be hampering his speed chess play as evident from this tourney

it seems like Magnus is focused alot on classical now a days

Aug-14-19
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  Count Wedgemore: <Olavi> Ah, yes. You're quite right. I completely forgot about it. That tournament was a disaster for Magnus. He started out by losing to Topalov on time, and seemed to never recover psychologically from that. Later in the tourney he even lost to his good friend and compatriot Hammer!
Aug-14-19
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  PhilFeeley: I'm not sure why blitz is worth watching, with missed checkmates, piece losses, etc. I suppose this one is good to see Ding, Yu and Richard making a run for it.
Aug-14-19
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  Sokrates: <KnightVBishop: Would you guys say Carlsen's focus on classical chess might be hampering his speed chess play as evident from this tourney>

I have the same thoughts, and if there's a truth in it, I wouldn't mind if Carlsen gets a bit worse in the quicker formats. This year his classical games have been fresh, dynamic, innovative and overall brilliant.

I agree with <Count Wedgemore>s precise analysis of the Caruana match, where Carlsen relied so much on his quick-format skills that he just wanted to pass the classical games safely.

Such ice-cold calculated tactics may give the final victory, but using it may also corrode your self-esteem in the classical games. I hope this event + the two uneventful WC matches + this year's success in the classics will make Carlsen change his basical tactics in the next WC match.

I think most of us would be happy and thrilled if the classical games in the world championship matches again would become exciting, interesting and entertaining, making any quick-format tie-breakers utterly superfluous.

Aug-14-19
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  Sally Simpson: ***

Blitz chess is a lottery, I have even beaten GM's at OTB blitz. It's gimmick chess, quick, cheap and nasty.

Rapid is better and as suggested earlier a mixture of rapid and classical is probably the future. One hour games, no increment till move 40. (just an idea.)

World Championship tie-break can be taken out with the Botvinnik rule (Champ has draw odds) - which no one wants.

The Karjakin idea, a 13 game match (or 15 or 17 game match) if the scores are tied then the last game has Armageddon rules without any time bonus for White, a draw is a Black win. The current champion has Black in the last game.

A really fed up Carlsen being interviewed by Ashley.

https://twitter.com/GrandChessTour/...

He cannot wait for the tournament to end.

The last 7 months have been fantastic for Carlsen, he is chessed out and his numbers never came up in the blitz lottery.

***

Aug-14-19  goodevans: With rapid games counting double, the standings before the final day of blitz are:

MVL 17.5
LA 17
DL 16.5
YY 15.5
SK 14.5
RR 14
MC 12.5
LDP 10.5
FC 9.5
SM 7.5

No two players sharing the same score, oddly enough. What are the chances of that?

Aug-14-19  csmath: 5-minute blitzes are garbage, 10-minute would make more sense but then they would not be able to play 9 games a day. Look what Aronian did yesterday, even worse than Carlsen. MVL was not any better.

In 5-minute blitz once the time is up there is nothing but nonsense. A normal chess player cannot think in a second while hitting a clock at the same time, this is monkey business. Try to play lightning to see what nonsense that is. I don't even understand why the clocks are needed for this, don't we have a board technology that would eliminate a need for old style clocks.

I find difference between 5-minute and 10-minute blitz too much of a difference. I plated 5-minute blitzes and I think that (and anything faster) is just a garbage format.

Aug-14-19  csmath: I mean there is no significant difference between 90-minute and 100-minute classical formats (thus I think we should always have 100-minute to keep in line with history) but there is a huge difference between 3-minute, 5-minute, and 10-minute blitzes, in terms of game quality. And blitz with mechanical clocks should have at least 6 seconds increment to avoid people knocking down pieces which happens all the time.

By the way, I think Carlsen has now a different opinion about fast game formats than what he had after Cote d'Ivoire when he was "all for it". :-)

I think it is good for him to lose a lot just to make him less supportive of this nonsense. I really do not understand what are these games for - surely not for theoretical analyses? Just to clog database with garbage chess.

Aug-14-19  Pedro Fernandez: <<goodevans>: No two players sharing the same score, oddly enough. What are the chances of that?> Hi <Evans>, excellent observation but also a remarkable fact! The probabilistic calculations to solve this problem is extremely complicated. How many draws, winners and losers everyday? But wait! Who draw, win or lose are not independent events from the others, and those ones are mutually inclusive! Please send this interesting problem to IBM ``Ponder This''. Greetings!
Aug-14-19  LameJokes:

I was feeling a little disoriented. We have not demanded anyone's retirement for a long time.

So, here we go. 5-minute blitz should retire. To be replaced with 10-minute format.

Aug-14-19  LameJokes:

Kasparov thinks computers are responsible for the spate of blunders.

Just look at the scenario three decades ago. Kasparov and Karpov made blunders, but no one criticized them.

The reason? No one noticed them in the absence of computer evals.

Here is the solution. Just show analysis and not evals.

Aug-14-19  jphamlore: This romanticizing of a fake past is so ahistoric it makes my head spin with how someone can post this. As I have pointed out, in Leningrad and Moscow more than a half century ago there were long established blitz tournaments where a talented amateur could battle future world champions.

Also if one reads through any greatest games collection by say Botvinnik, game after game Botvinnik is forced to admit that a suboptimal move made trying to make the first time control spoiled much of the advantage gained the previous four hours of play. Because in fact without increment, the custom back then was to play many moves with the flags on the verge of falling. In other words, moves made at blitz or even bullet speed.

What often saved any quality of those games is what is totally lacking today: The adjournment, which allowed analysis using a physical chessboard.

If one wants classical games to not end with the equivalent of finishing a potential masterpiece painting using finger painting, introduce a timeout of maybe 15 minutes after the first time control and let the players analyze the game with a physical chessboard.

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