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🏆 World Cup (2019)

  PARTICIPANTS (sorted by highest achieved rating; click on name to see player's games)
Levon Aronian, Wesley So, Maxime Vachier-Lagrave, Shakhriyar Mamedyarov, Hikaru Nakamura, Ding Liren, Alexander Grischuk, Anish Giri, Teimour Radjabov, Sergey Karjakin, Boris Gelfand, Peter Svidler, Ruslan Ponomariov, Leinier Dominguez Perez, Ian Nepomniachtchi, Pentala Harikrishna, Yu Yangyi, Michael Adams, Dmitry Jakovenko, Evgeny Tomashevsky, Wei Yi, Wang Hao, David Navara, Sergei Movsesian, Radoslaw Wojtaszek, Nikita Vitiugov, Evgeny Ilgizovich Bareev, Le Quang Liem, Maxim Matlakov, Jan-Krzysztof Duda, Arkadij Naiditsch, Dmitry Andreikin, Vladimir Fedoseev, Ernesto Inarkiev, Bu Xiangzhi, Samuel Shankland, Anton Korobov, Vidit Santosh Gujrathi, Rustam Kasimdzhanov, Ivan Cheparinov, Luke McShane, Maxim Rodshtein, Liviu Dieter Nisipeanu, Evgeny Najer, Ferenc Berkes, Igor Viktorovich Kovalenko, Vladislav Artemiev, Bassem Amin, Igor Lysyj, Daniil Dubov, Eltaj Safarli, Tamir Nabaty, Ivan Saric, Baskaran Adhiban, Aleksej Gennadyevich Aleksandrov, Anton Demchenko, David Anton Guijarro, Mateusz Bartel, Aleksandr Rakhmanov, Gawain Jones, Jeffery Xiong, Sanan Sjugirov, Eduardo Patricio Iturrizaga Bonelli, Surya Shekhar Ganguly, Nils Grandelius, Abhijeet Gupta, Kacper Piorun, Jorge Cori, Sandro Mareco, Arman Pashikian, Ngoc Truongson Nguyen, Sethuraman P Sethuraman, Constantin Lupulescu, Emilio Cordova, Mircea-Emilian Parligras, Lu Shanglei, Ahmed Adly, Benjamin Bok, Robert Hovhannisyan, Parham Maghsoodloo, Ehsan Ghaem Maghami, Neuris Delgado Ramirez, Kirill Alekseenko, Benjamin Gledura, Rinat Jumabayev, Diego Flores, Grigoriy Oparin, Samuel Sevian, Nijat Abasov, Murali Karthikeyan, Chithambaram V R Aravindh, Aryan Tari, Alexandr Predke, M Amin Tabatabaei, Niclas Huschenbeth, Andrey Esipenko, Nikita Petrov, Krikor Sevag Mekhitarian, Alexey Sarana, Sunilduth Lyna Narayanan plus 28 more players.

Chessgames.com Chess Event Description
World Cup (2019)

The 2019 FIDE World Cup is taking place in Khanty-Mansiysk, Russia from 10 September to 4 October. The 128-player knockout tournament features most of the world's best players. The total prize fund is $1.6 million, with $110,000 for the winner and $6,000 for first round losers. The finalists will qualify for the World Championship Candidates (2020) tournament that determines Magnus Carlsen's next World Championship challenger.

The format is six knockout rounds of 2-game classical matches before a 4-game final. The time control is 90 minutes for 40 moves, then 30 minutes for the rest of the game, with a 30-second increment from move 1. If the score is tied the players then play two 25-minute + 10-second increment rapid games, then two 10+10 games, then two 5+3 and, finally, Armageddon, where White has 5 minutes to Black's 4 but a draw qualifies Black for the next round. (1)

Official site: https://khantymansiysk2019.fide.com/

Previous edition: World Cup (2017)

(1) chess24 https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-t...

 page 1 of 5; games 1-25 of 110  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. C Aravindh vs Adams 1-0692019World CupC50 Giuoco Piano
2. B Bok vs I Saric 1-0282019World CupD44 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
3. S Sjugirov vs S Mareco 1-0442019World CupE15 Queen's Indian
4. McShane vs N Delgado Ramirez  1-0572019World CupA13 English
5. M A Tabatabaei vs B Amin 1-0402019World CupE94 King's Indian, Orthodox
6. Le Quang Liem vs A G Aleksandrov 1-0362019World CupD31 Queen's Gambit Declined
7. D Andreikin vs K Mekhitarian 1-0382019World CupA37 English, Symmetrical
8. C Lupulescu vs I V Kovalenko  1-0572019World CupC45 Scotch Game
9. P Maghsoodloo vs M Chigaev  1-0372019World CupA00 Uncommon Opening
10. R Jumabayev vs F Berkes  1-0482019World CupE62 King's Indian, Fianchetto
11. K Alekseenko vs Ngoc Truongson Nguyen  1-0492019World CupC53 Giuoco Piano
12. Ganguly vs V Fedoseev 1-0572019World CupA13 English
13. S L Narayanan vs D Anton Guijarro  1-0562019World CupC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
14. E Inarkiev vs M Karthikeyan  1-0422019World CupE97 King's Indian
15. N Abasov vs K Piorun 1-0442019World CupE08 Catalan, Closed
16. I V Kovalenko vs C Lupulescu 1-0372019World CupA18 English, Mikenas-Carls
17. V Fedoseev vs Ganguly 1-0322019World CupE94 King's Indian, Orthodox
18. Wang Hao vs A Pridorozhni 1-01082019World CupA13 English
19. Yu Yangyi vs E Ghaem Maghami 1-0422019World CupC42 Petrov Defense
20. A Korobov vs A Gupta  1-0612019World CupE60 King's Indian Defense
21. Gelfand vs Lu Shanglei  1-0302019World CupE04 Catalan, Open, 5.Nf3
22. E Safarli vs S Shankland  1-0452019World CupC45 Scotch Game
23. K Piorun vs N Abasov 1-0632019World CupB31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation
24. Nisipeanu vs M Parligras 1-0342019World CupD02 Queen's Pawn Game
25. T Nabaty vs S P Sethuraman 1-0372019World CupA46 Queen's Pawn Game
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Sep-20-19
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  beatgiant: <WorstPlayerEver> So it went from "Giri never wins" to "Giri won, but it was only an exhibition to popularize chess in China" to "Giri won in China, but China is only in chess for the international prestige"?

In that case, I'll change tack and simply ask, which players do you think should be in the Candidates this time?

Sep-20-19  WorstPlayerEver: <beatgiant>

No, you simply try to avoid my argument. Giri is import too. To illustrate this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QH-rR...

Why are there people with two nationalities? While nationalism is considered as bad? Totally makes no sense. But the outcome is simple: people who have two nationalities have double right to vote, on a national basis. Speaking of democracy and equality........ my arse.

Now guess who's behind this nonsense?

In other words: I stand corrected.

Sep-20-19
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  cro777: Daily Puzzle

Nikita Vitiugov Ė Wesley So. Position after 59ÖKb5


click for larger view

Mate in 3.

Evgenij Miroshnichenko on Nikita Vitiugov's win: "A positional masterpiece."

https://twitter.com/i/status/117506...

Sep-20-19
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  beatgiant: <WorstPlayerEver>

In what way do I try to avoid your argument?

Giri has won important events in the past. I assume you know this.

Ding was at Shenzhen Masters (2019), as was Yu Yangyi. It proves nothing to show that the 2017 edition was weaker.

We can go on debating all kinds of other things about chess in China, but I don't see much relevance for Giri.

Giri's status as a naturalized citizen, anything to do with dual nationality or nationalism... what has it got to do with this discussion? Alekhine and Korchnoi were challengers before, and they emigrated from Russia just as Giri did.

We might just as well debate whether Giri is more qualified than Ding because he's married, as <Count Wedgemore> pointed out above.

Sep-20-19  WorstPlayerEver: <beatgiant>

In the sense of promotional events.

You are mistaken; Giri has won both Russian and Dutch national chess events.

Maybe you overlooked that.

He won the Russian U12 championship in 2006. Soon after he won his GM title, Giri placed clear first with 6/8 at the Dutch Championship (2009).

Sep-20-19  WorstPlayerEver: PS it's unfair competition. Exactly what it is.
Sep-20-19  WorstPlayerEver: PPS the difference is that both Alekhine and Korchnoi did not have a DOUBLE nationality.

So your argument is pointless.

Sep-20-19
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  beatgiant: <WorstPlayerEver>

<You are mistaken; Giri has won both Russian and Dutch national chess events.>

OK, that does have something to do with this thesis: <Giri never won anything. Never will.>

I stand corrected.

Sep-20-19
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  AylerKupp: <<starry2013> he was asked why he hadn't done well in the World Cup before and he said it was just luck.>

Technically he was correct. It was just his bad "luck" that his opponents played better than he did in the World Cups. ;-)

Sep-20-19  WorstPlayerEver: Giri kind of admits this himself in this interview:

"Chess.com: You now represent Holland internationally, but you grew up in many countries. Do you feel Dutch?

Anish Giri: Itís interesting. Most of the people I know have a very clear national identity and I feel how attached they are to their nationality from the way they speak. As a chess player I developed mostly in Holland; I became a strong player and made all the most important steps thereóbecoming a grandmaster, representing the national team. So as a chess player I certainly feel Dutch and Iím immensely grateful for the support Iím receiving in Holland from my sponsors as well as the Dutch Chess Federation, which is supported by the National Olympic Committee.

But on a personal level, this is hard for people to understand, but Iíve had such an international background from an early age that I donít feel a particular attachment to the national anthem or things like that. As a person I donít really attach myself to a country. I guess itís natural if you travel a lot as a kid.

Did this multi-national background help shape you as a player?

I was insanely fortunate. My mother was Russian and my father was Nepalese so I had both chess culture and genetics growing up. And learning the game in Russia where there are plenty of coaches who know about how to advise children, and which books to study, helped a lot. I studied all the classical games early on, and I experienced the harsh competition between Russian kids, which is way more fierce than many other junior competitions. But at the same time, I was also fortunate to move to Holland at the right time, due to my fatherís job, and that gave me a lot of opportunities. Had we stayed in Russia, it would have been harder for me to get all these chances. I played a lot of grandmasters immediately, and I played in the Wijk aan Zee tournament quite quickly."

https://www.chess.com/article/view/...

It's funny to see how he replaces 'cheating' by "I was insanely fortunate."

Sep-20-19  WorstPlayerEver: <beatgiant>

You do not stand at all in this discussion. You just don't got any point.

Sep-20-19
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  AylerKupp: <<jphamlore> If Ding Liren finishes top 2 in this World Cup, <Giri> seems to have good chances to take the one ratings spot for Candidates qualification, which to me shows what a farce the ratings system is.>

Did you consider that perhaps the farce is not the ratings system per se but the fact that FIDE selects one of its participants for the Candidates on the basis of highest <average> rating for a one year period? For 2020 it's between the Feb-2019 and Jan-2020 rating lists. It's been shown that the player with the highest rating in the early portion of the average rating calculation period has an unfair advantage over the other possible Candidates Tournament participants because a high rating at the beginning of the average rating calculation period affects the average rating calculation more favorably than a high rating at the end of the average rating calculation period. It's even possible for one player to finish the average rating calculation period with a higher rating than another player yet the second player might qualify for the Candidates Tournament because his average rating for the average rating calculation period was higher.

And remember that all that each of the qualifying events show is who the better player was during the event, nothing more. The Grand Prix makes some sense since there are 4 events spread out over a year with the Candidates Tournament qualifiers being the top two scorers in 3 of those events.

But the World Cup and the Grand Prix tournaments? Each of those is a single event and all they show (maybe) who the best players were when those events took place. And the World Cup? That's decided by a series of knockout matches with the matches possibly decided by Rapid, Blitz, and Armageddon/Sudden death games. Given the relatively high probability that the loser of each of those knockout match could have lost the match purely by chance and that many of the matches were decided at faster than Classic time control games, what relevance does it have in selecting the best player to face Carlsen in what will initially be a maximum of a 14-game match played at Classic time control. And how does being the best player in Sep-2019 have to do with being the best player in Mar-2020? Now THAT is a farce. More of a farce than rewarding consistent performance over a much longer period of time. IMNSHO, of course.

Besides, if Ding Liren finishes in one of the two top places in this World Cup, the race to qualify on the bases of average rating becomes much tighter with the average ratings through Sep-2019 for the next 4 players being Giri at 2786.88, Mamedyarov at 2778.00, Vachier-Lagrave at 2776.38, and Nepomniachtchi at 2773.50. Only about 13 rating points separate Giri from Nepomniachtchi , and Nepo's rating has been the most consistent through the rating period so far. So with 4 rating lists to go, it's still anybody's race.

Sep-20-19
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  AylerKupp: <<Pedro Fernandez> Hey <AylerKupp>, don't you feel some dizzy with that short's issue? I am and I have not yet published any post on that subject.>

I was waiting for you to make your first post before I allowed myself to feel dizzy. And now that you have, I do feel dizzy. :-)

My remedy to dizziness, as usual, is to drink a glass (or two) of good wine, particularly when wearing shorts. I recommend the same "medicine" for you. It may not cure your dizziness, but you will no longer care that you are dizzy.

Sep-20-19
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  beatgiant: <WorstPlayerEver> <it's unfair competition. Exactly what it is.>

To prevent that, FIDE requires its members to declare a single national federation. If you didn't know that, I'm sure <AylerKupp> can enter into the breach and quote paragraphs of FIDE regulations for you.

Sep-20-19  devere: <AylerKupp: Only about 13 rating points separate Giri from Nepomniachtchi , and Nepo's rating has been the most consistent through the rating period so far. So with 4 rating lists to go, it's still anybody's race.>

The rest of your post was splendid, but I disagree with your conclusion. If Ding qualifies at World Cup, Giri is a lock for the ratings qualification spot. Using average ratings makes late-year qualification extremely difficult; as I have noted in the past, a win in January counts 12 times as much for qualification as a win in December.

All the other sports in the world glorify a come-from-behind last minute victory. The dimwits who run FIDE do their best to make it impossible!

Sep-20-19
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  beatgiant: I wonder what kind of World Championship cycle it would take to trigger a kibitzing apocalypse here?

Maybe that would involve a "win by two" clause in favor of the champion, the use of average ratings over the past 2 years as a qualifier, a dress code with mandatory Scottish kilt but with a vague statement that the plaid pattern must not be too garish, Fischer Random for the tiebreaks, and a rule allowing a person to simultaneously hold the world championship and the championship of the International Space Station?

Sep-20-19
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  parmetd: Not a good round for three Americans, So, Xiong and Dominguez lost.
Sep-20-19  botvinnik64: So, in the end, who do we (all??) really think has a chance to unseat Magnus in 2020 (or at least have the best shot)? I have no idea. What kind of player could beat MC in a match - that includes (possibly) several time controls at which Magnus has proven his superiority? I only have a sense of the more "interesting" match ups: Ding, Aronian, maybe Nepo or Grischuk, Caruana...
Sep-20-19
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  Count Wedgemore: <botvinnik64: I only have a sense of the more "interesting" match ups: Ding, Aronian, maybe Nepo or Grischuk, Caruana...>

Yes, good suggestions. Vachier-Lagrave would also be a good match-up, I think. Magnus and MVL have played many interesting and entertaining games against each other over the years.

Sep-20-19  botvinnik64: True about MVL, I can't believe I left him out! Basically I've chosen the top couple of players, but I'm not sure any "style" is more or less difficult for Magnus, he handles everyone. Btw: the FIDE website has (finally) been updated and it is great, the only positive thing I have said about FIDE in a long, long, time.
Sep-20-19
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  Sally Simpson: ***

It is the average ratings over a period of time and here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World...

It clearly shows Giri will get the spot if Ding qualifies unless Giri has some kind of rating disaster.

Last candidates a player who qualified by rating, Caruana went all the way. Will history repeat and it's Carlsen v Giri.

***

Sep-20-19
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  Sally Simpson: ***

MVL - Carlsen would be good but that would mean MVL playing 14 games in the candidates without having two or three imaginative whoopsies where he tries to get the computer to go 3 negative digits in the red just for the hell of it.

If the W.C. match is held in Monaco MVL might get the Wild Card if he does not qualify.

***

Sep-20-19  nok: <I wonder what kind of World Championship cycle it would take to trigger a kibitzing apocalypse here?

Maybe that would involve a "win by two" clause in favor of the champion,>

If someone wins the candidates by two points, I have no problem declaring him champion immediately.

Sep-21-19
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  amadeus: <Sally Simpson: ***
It is the average ratings over a period of time and here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World... It clearly shows Giri will get the spot if Ding qualifies unless Giri has some kind of rating disaster. >

A longer list...

Standard Rating Lists, Feb. 2019 ó Sep. 2019

Sum (02-09/19) : Player (average points 02-09/2019)

22901: Carlsen (2862,63 avg.) - wch
22559: Caruana (2819,88 avg.) - already qualified

22471: Ding Liren (2808,88 avg.)
22295: Anish Giri (2786,88 avg.)
22224: Mamedyarov (2778 avg.)
22214: Vachier-Lagrave (2776,75 avg.)
22188: Nepomniachtchi (2773,5 avg.)
22158: Anand (2769,75 avg.)
22144: Grischuk (2768 avg.)
22103: Wesley So (2762,875 avg.)
22084: Aronian (2760,5 avg.)
22061: Radjabov (2757,63 avg.)
22024: Kramnik (2753 avg.)
22013: Dominguez (2751,63 avg.)
22007: Karjakin (2750,88 avg.)
22004: Yu Yangyi (2750,5 avg.)
21998: Nakamura (2749,75 avg.)

Sep-21-19
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  Sally Simpson: ***

Thanks amadeus,

Much clearer and things will be even more clearer after the World Cup and the I.O.M. swiss.

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