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|Jul-05-06|| ||MrMelad: <Swapmeet: That opening you play is generally referred to as the London System.> Thanks! Do you know by any chance of a game that it is played in? I know Kasparov played it more then once but I can't find any of those games.|
|Jul-05-06|| ||Mating Net: What's a better opening move, 1.e4 or 1.d4? Anybody?|
|Jul-05-06|| ||MrMelad: <aw1988> On the title of this page it is written: "General discussion". I don't think it should be banned, although I think I've gone too far with my posting.. In anycase, I'm done with the politics, unless I see something that will relly require an answer...|
|Jul-05-06|| ||MrMelad: <Mating Net>
According to the opening explorer, e4 is better then d4 for white, by about 0.5% - thats 0.005 -> (37.1% to 36.6%).
You can also find there that Na3 has 100% (4 games) and Nh3 has 71.4% (7 games). There wasn't enough games played so I sould say that the best opening acording to the OE - is g4 that has 61.7% in 222 games played.
|Jul-05-06|| ||Jilted Rook: <In anycase, I'm done with the politics> so maybe now you could turn your attention to diplomacy and then maybe to fairness, open-mindedness, objectivity and the pursuit of truth?|
|Jul-05-06|| ||MrMelad: <Jilted Rook> Deal.|
|Jul-05-06|| ||Ron: <MrMelad> You might want to look into the Torre Attack: the first three moves by white are d4, nf3, Bg5.
Study the games played in this system.
I usually further develop with Nbd2, e3, c3, 0-0.
|Jul-05-06|| ||WannaBe: <Mating Net> NLA, 1. b3. Or you can try the <WannaBe> gambit, 1. e3 followed by 2. Ke2!!|
|Jul-05-06|| ||ganstaman: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...|
These aren't all London System games, but many are. Plus, the guy with the white pieces wrote a book on this system. But I can't help at all past this for now.
<WannaBe> Have you actually played the WannaBe gambit? If so, I'd love to see a game. And, if you could make some official sounding analysis of the opening, I feel I could justify playing it in your honor once in a while.
|Jul-05-06|| ||WannaBe: <ganstaman> Yes, I have a perfect record using the <WannaBe> Gambit, 0.00000000000% |
You're more than welcome to try it. Not only will you have the worst bishop in the world, and a rook that does nothing. =)
|Jul-05-06|| ||PhilFeeley: I know there hasn't been a page created for it here yet, but the games are available now and maybe people would like to discuss the World Open just finished in Philadelphia. Here's a game I don't understand at all. Perhaps white had an emergency and had to leave, so he just resigned. Anyone know the real story?|
[Event "34th World Open"]
[Site "Philadelphia USA"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. e4 Nxc3 6. bxc3 Bg7 7. Qa4+ c6
8. Nf3 O-O 9. Be2 c5 10. O-O Qc7 11. Bg5 b6 12. Rfc1 Bg4 13. d5 e5 14. Qd1
Najer played several more games there, so it's not that he withdrew from the tournament.
|Jul-05-06|| ||Mating Net: Thanks to all for your help. You do realize that I was only trying to get the discussion back to chess? I enjoy a little diversions every know and then, but come on.|
<WannaBe> I've have actually played, in blitz, against 1.f3 2.Kf2!? a couple of times with mixed results. If the center stays closed, White has an edge. Similar to S Williams vs M Simons, 1999
|Jul-05-06|| ||WannaBe: <Mating Net> But of course, that's why I mentioned my (in)famous <WannaBe>'s Gambit. =)|
|Jul-06-06|| ||JoeWms: I have noticed that some of my friends on this site have difficulty with the verbs <emigrate> and <immigrate>. Try this mnemonic.|
Think of the verbs and their prepositions in alphabetical order:
Note, too, that the second verb has a second M in its spelling. English is a weird language.
|Jul-06-06|| ||Swapmeet: <MrMelad> There are hundreds of examples of the London System in the database. I did a quick search here and with chessbase and was unable to find any games with Kasparov playing white. |
It is difficult because those moves can be played against almost any black set-up. Perhaps if you knew what black played in the Kasparov game, I would have an easier time locating it.
|Jul-06-06|| ||WannaBe: This web-site has plenty of zipped PGNs available... Including the London system, both as white or black.|
|Jul-06-06|| ||JoeWms: <WannaBe> Help! Somebody stole my forum page. How do I get it back?|
|Jul-06-06|| ||WMD: I note with displeasure the concerted attempt to switch the conversation back to chess. Some people...|
|Jul-06-06|| ||ganstaman: <WannaBe> 1) Did you see today's puzzle game? M Mitso vs T Gelashvili, 2000 . It opens 1.e3 2.Qe2!!|
2) What exactly is being gambitted? Can we say that white gambits his position? Or do we usually just call that a blunder?
|Jul-06-06|| ||Stevens: <<WannaBe> Have you actually played the WannaBe gambit? If so, I'd love to see a game. And, if you could make some official sounding analysis of the opening, I feel I could justify playing it in your honor once in a while.>|
there was a computer somewhere that played this a lot. i think it's the one that Short claimed was Fischer playing online. It opened a lots of its games with e3, Ke2 followed by some other bizarre moves, yet it still won most of the games!
|Jul-06-06|| ||Stevens: from chessbase : <The ICC Fischer usually starts his game with some really crazy moves, like 1.f3 d5 2.c3 Nf6 3.Kf2 e5 4.Ke3 or 1.e4 c5 2.Ke2 Nc6 3.Ke3. And he wins.>|
with a game too :
|Jul-06-06|| ||ganstaman: <Stevens> Thanks.
<All> I was reading some stuff here: http://www.chessville.com/instructi... . Saw this line: <"Use your time to think of specifics and to find the best move. Use your opponent’s time to think in generalities and of future possibilities.">
Do you guys do this? On my opponent's time, I usually try to figure out what he'll do, and then think of my response to that (of course, I consider that he could make a variety of moves). However, I'm not right all the time, and in those cases I have to rethink a lot of stuff. Also, I end up wasting a lot of thought on lines that will never get played. Thinking generally instead, and coming up with my dream position (my goal from this position), I think would be more productive. I'd be more easily able to deal with my opponent's move because I'd already know generally what I want to do.
I think I'll give this a try since it sounds good to me. I was wondering if others can attest to its greatness.
|Jul-06-06|| ||Stevens: <<gangstaman> <Thinking generally instead, and coming up with my dream position (my goal from this position), I think would be more productive.>|
this is something advocated by Jeremy Silman and his "thinking technique." I haven't seen it anywhere though that he recommends two different thinking patterns depending on whose move it is though.
I guess it makes sense though to form general plans and ideas on the opponents time and then look at specific moves in your own time.
|Jul-06-06|| ||azaris: The problem with that method is that if your opponent plays very quickly you will have to adjust your thinking pattern.|
|Jul-06-06|| ||Stevens: <azaris> yes, very true. i think this method is mainly for use in classical time controls where you should have a good few minutes per move.|
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