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Aug-13-19
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  tpstar: I read the news today, oh boy
About a selfish man who made the grade
And though the bantz was rather sad
Well I just had to laugh
I saw the wanka's photograph

He blew his chess out in a car
He didn't notice that the board had changed
A crowd of kibitzers stood and stared
They'd seen his posts before
Nobody was really sure if he was from the boring House of Lords

Aug-13-19  Luke Warm: So, Jurassic Park II has a quick line, "80% of Greenpeace are females": Still doesn't make me want to sign up.
Aug-13-19
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  MissScarlett: <
A crowd of kibitzers stood and stared
They'd seen his posts before
Nobody was really sure if he was from the boring House of Lords>

A day in the User: Larryfyffe?

Aug-13-19  Parachessus: This miniature has shades of Fischer-Fine, 1963 (Evans Gambit Accepted). Stockfish vs Parachessus, 2019 (Evans Gambit accepted, Waller Attack). 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4 Bxb4 5.c3 Ba5 6.d4 exd4 7.O-O d6 8.Qb3 Qf6 9.cxd4 Bb6 10.Bb5 Bd7 11.Bg5 Qg6 12.d5 Ne5 13.Nxe5 dxe5 14.Bxd7+ Kxd7 15.Qa4+ c6 16.Bh4 Bd4 17.Nc3!! Bxc3 18.Rab1 b5 19.Rxb5! Ne7 20.Rb7+ Kd6 21.Bxe7++
Aug-13-19  cormier: nite .....
Aug-13-19
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  WinKing: Coming Saturday, August 17th

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Aug-13-19  Luke Warm: MissScarlett,
You make my flesh crawl.
Aug-13-19  Luke Warm: harry, The Lion King says “When we die, our bodies become the grass, and the antelope eat the grass. And so we are all connected in the great Circle of Life.”

Can you handle that kind of heaviness?

Aug-13-19  Luke Warm: It’s interesting to compare The Lion King to How Green Was My Valley: the dead are external in the Lion King, but in the Welsh novel, they are internalized:

“But you have gone now, all of you that were so beautiful when you were quick with life. Yet not gone, for you are still a living truth inside my mind.

So how are you dead, my brothers and sisters, and all of you , when you live with me as surely as I live with myself?”

I like both ideas.

Aug-14-19
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  HeMateMe: Al Kooper <Blues Project> recalls his first time seeing Mike Bloomfield. "He and Bob [Dylan] were walking from a hotel to a recording studio in Chicago. It was snowing lightly. Bloomfield was ambling along, holding his guitar in his arms, there was no guitar case. They come into the studio, Bloomfield takes a cloth and wipes the snow off his guitar and the session begins."

Bob Dylan gets respect not only for being a fine songwriter, but for being the guy that brought folk music into mainstream America. After Dylan made it big, you could be a folkie stud, make a lot of money, it was no longer a niche piece of the music business. Dylan made it possible for people like Donavan, Simon and Garfunkel, Joni Mitchell and Don McClean to get signed to recording contracts.

Aug-14-19  nok: <Bob Dylan gets respect not only for being a fine songwriter, but for being the guy that brought folk music into mainstream America.>

Huh? The Weavers, the Kingston trio, Peter, Paul & Mary all topped the charts. In fact Dylan became famous when PPM covered his song.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameri...

Aug-14-19
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  HeMateMe: But, they weren't <stars>. Bob Dylan became a global star, not just a guy who sold records. Zimmy make it possible for guys who were quiet, singer songwriters to get a large audience, become commercial. PP&M were in the Joan Baez, Pete Seeger, van Ronk group. Bob Dylan showed that a thoughtful songwriter could be a mainstream sensation.
Aug-14-19
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  gezafan: Here's an excellent version of Billy Roberts's song Hey Joe, by Otis Taylor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woa...

Aug-14-19
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  saffuna: <Huh? The Weavers, the Kingston trio, Peter, Paul & Mary all topped the charts. In fact Dylan became famous when PPM covered his song.>

I was thinking the same thing. Folk music was already big. The New Christy Minstrels. Joan Baez.

There were two prime-time network shows featuring folk music, "Shindig" and "Hootenanny."

Aug-14-19
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  Count Wedgemore: <saffuna: I was thinking the same thing. Folk music was already big.>

Yes, you and <nok> are correct. But see, <saffuna>? That¨s exactly what we were discussing. Dylan's got a reputation that far exceeds his importance. There are so many, like <HMM>, who's got the wrong impression. They think that Dylan was the guy that popularized folk music all on his own, which is complete nonsense.

Aug-14-19
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  saffuna: <They think that Dylan was the guy that popularized folk music all on his own, which is complete nonsense.>

He sure pissed off the folkie faithful when he went electric in 1966.

"Judas!"

Aug-14-19  Keyser Soze: Dylan was way beyond folk music and wanted to experiment. Good for him. He is a real Americana artist playing all vertents of AM music. I agree that that Nobel was ridiculous. But let's give credit for the good songs he did.
Aug-14-19  Keyser Soze: Those folk purists were a pain in the arse . He didn't want anything with politics as well. But Baez I guess forgave him good. Heheh
Aug-14-19
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  Diademas: <Count Wedgemore: They think that Dylan was the guy that popularized folk music all on his own, which is complete nonsense.>

I don't know. He sure didn't do it single handedly, but he probably was the most important figure in what has been known as the American folk music revival*.
Especially the part as protest singer. Both Guthrie and Seeger had been more or less buried by HUAC**.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameri... ** https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hou...

Aug-14-19
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  Count Wedgemore: <Keyser: But let's give credit for the good songs he did.>

Yes, absolutely. He has written some terrific songs.

Aug-14-19  Parachessus: Paleontologists are still trying to figure out whether comb jellies (Ctenophora) or sponges (Porifera)are the most primitive animal on their family tree. Scientists have thought that sponges appear closer to the base of the tree, based on their very simple shapes. But some molecular analyses have hinted that comb jellies may be at the base of the tree. Discuss.
Aug-14-19
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  saffuna: <He didn't want anything with politics as well. >

Dylan didn't want anything to do with politics, is that what you're saying?

He typically wasn't as direct as most folk music at the time, was a little more nuanced, used a little more humor. But there was plenty of politics in his songs.

And then there was "Masters of War." ("And I hope that you die And your death will come soon.")

By the way, his breakthrough album "Freewheelin" was not a big seller at first. It only took off after Peter, Paul and Mary released their version of "Don't Think Twice." (Which Dylan hated, from what I've read. Too pretty.)

Aug-14-19
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  Count Wedgemore: <Diademas: he probably was the most important figure in what has been known as the American folk music revival>

Yes, perhaps. But as your article mentions, the folk music revival, although peaking in the mid-60s, began long before Dylan entered the scene.

<Both Guthrie and Seeger had been more or less buried by HUAC>

Guthrie too? Didn't really know that. I have read that Seeger, who was a communist, he was even a Communist party member, was targeted by the HUAC during the McCarthy era (he kind of re-emerged on the scene in the 1960s, though). I don't think Guthrie was ever a member of any communist group. He was definitely a leftie, but I don't think he was a communist. I may be wrong.

Aug-14-19
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  Diademas: <saffuna: <He didn't want anything with politics as well. > Dylan didn't want anything to do with politics, is that what you're saying?>

Dylan sure got involved with the civil rights movement, and wrote a load of songs about it. He also played at various civil rights marches and rallies.
He also wrote things like "Talkin' John Birch Paranoid Blues" and “Masters of War” that clearly marked a political stance.

From 1964 onwards he distanced himself from the cultural countermovement just before they became silly.

For all his career the political left has been discussing if Dylan is "The Real Deal" (from their point of view) or or just a fame-seeker.
I don't know, and I really don't care, but here is an article about it.
https://www.liveabout.com/bob-dylan...

Aug-14-19
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  Diademas: <Count Wedgemore: <Both Guthrie and Seeger had been more or less buried by HUAC>

Guthrie too? Didn't really know that. I have read that Seeger, who was a communist, he was even a Communist party member, was targeted by the HUAC during the McCarthy era (he kind of re-emerged on the scene in the 1960s, though). I don't think Guthrie was ever a member of any communist group. He was definitely a leftie, but I don't think he was a communist. I may be wrong.>

<However, at this time a growing anti-communist movement, often called the "Red Scare," had led to investigations by the House Un-American Activities Committee. Pete Seeger and Lee Hayes were denounced as communists and blacklisted. The Weavers lost their recording contract, their recordings could not be played on the radio, and they could not book concerts. In 1955 Pete Seeger answered a subpoena to testify before the House Un-American Activities Committee, but he refused to answer questions he said were improper, asserting a First Ammendment right not to speak. This led to a long court battle. He was indicted for contempt in 1957 and convicted in 1961. This conviction was overturned in 1962. Woody Guthrie was also blacklisted during this period, just as he was beginning to experience the symptoms of Huntington's disease. The government's treatment of the Weavers and other folk singers had a chilling effect on the folk revival as a whole, with groups like the Kingston Trio avoiding any political or social commentary in order to achieve popular success without accusations of communism.>*

You didn't have to be a communist to attract the attention of HUAC.

* https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou... (I hate these Google links. Unfortunately I'm too stupid to correct them, but the article is at least from the Library of Congress.)

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