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Jun-28-07		tpstar: <cyruslaihy> 4 ... b5 is the Archangel Variation; after 5. Bb3 Na5 White should just castle Opening Explorer as 6. Bxf7+?! is unsound. There are other good combinations involving f7 & a8, like 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 b5 5. Bb3 Nd4?! 6. Nxd4 exd4 7. Bxf7+! winning the exchange if Black takes = B Wall vs J Chance, 1969

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Jun-28-07		who: <Richard Taylor BTW lying is one of the signs of intelligence (more intelligent children lie more frequently and ealier in life and do it better!)> Is that true?

Jun-28-07		Towershield: No, he's lying.

Jun-28-07		tpstar: <yavuz1990> Hello! Welcome to the group! Yes, Black can swipe the Pe4 but more common is 9 ... Bd7 or 9 ... Bb7 or 9 ... Be7 Opening Explorer to avoid falling too far behind in development. Check out these 5 games with 9 ... Nxe4 http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... and you could also discuss that variation here = Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin with ...a6 and ...b5 (B87) See you around.

Jun-28-07		whatthefat: <SteveO1: ICCF does not allow computer program assistance, they just do not disallow it as they maintain it is impossible to detect all computer cheating.> Yes, it seems you're right about them not explicitly disallowing it, but that is by definition allowing it.

Jun-29-07		Chess Classics: Something really amusing, that shouldn't be, is copy-pasting a random person's avatar into a word document and highliting it. The colors are kinda funny sometimes. Well, as far as amusing myself at 12:30, it's about as good as it gets. Regards, CC

Jun-29-07		Richard Taylor: <who: <Richard Taylor BTW lying is one of the signs of intelligence (more intelligent children lie more frequently and ealier in life and do it better!)> Is that true?> Only in the sense that it is untrue.

Jun-29-07		Richard Taylor: <Chess Classics: Something really amusing, that shouldn't be, is copy-pasting a random person's avatar into a word document and highliting it. The colors are kinda funny sometimes. Well, as far as amusing myself at 12:30, it's about as good as it gets.> Yes you can do a lot on Word with the colour function and the highlight and also those extra characters such as the blocks, other marks, the Spanish question mark etc.

Jun-29-07		Richard Taylor: tpstar: <yavuz1990> Hello! Welcome to the group! Yes, Black can swipe the Pe4 but more common is 9 ... Bd7 or 9 ... Bb7 or 9 ... Be7 Opening <Explorer to avoid falling too far behind in development. Check out these 5 games with 9 ... Nxe4 http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... and you could also discuss that variation here = Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin with ...a6 and ...b5 (B87) See you around.> This is good advice -the problem is the loss of time suffered by Black. I was thinking of something similar looking at at a game (Najdorf) by the player of the day.

Jun-29-07		yavuz1990: thanks for all of your kindness and answering my question

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Jun-29-07		whiteshark: Here is a little Sunday puzzle ... maybe your engine won't get it, too. click for larger view White to play wins.

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Jun-29-07		tonsillolith: How would certain openings rank as producing games from least tactical to most tactical?

Jun-29-07		WannaBe: <tonsillolith> In my opinion, and I'm an horrible player, French to me is the least, Sicilian is the most... Strickly my opinion...

Jun-30-07		Chess Classics: <tonsillolith> Well, it's hard to say without getting very, very specific. Club players like myself and WannaBe like to say, "The French and Caro is boring, but the Sicillian is exciting!" But there are intense, tactical lines of the Caro, and there are very dry, positional lines of the Sicillian. Right now the two most tactical opening variations that are still favored at the higher levels are the Sicillian Najdorf, and the Marshall Gambit in the Ruy Lopez-I think. Don't quote me on that. Regards, CC

Jun-30-07		brankat: <CC> <Don't quote me on that.> No, we won't. Regards, BK

Jun-30-07		ganstaman: Most openings are actually as tactically rich or dry as you make them. Take the French, for example. There's the Winawer Poisoned Pawn (Tal vs Bronstein, 1966) and also the Fort Knox variation (as the name implies, very solid for black, but can be not-so-dynamic as well). The Petroff Defense is a great example. Many think it's boring and without tactics. But that's only how it is if you play it like that -- there are a great many opportunities to make it just as sharp as anything else. Better example in my view, now that I think about it, is the King's Indian Defense, specifically the Bayonnet Attack. There are these games: Van Wely vs Radjabov, 2007 and Shirov vs Radjabov, 2007. But there is also this: Z Gyimesi vs Baklan, 2005, which is over 20 moves of theory and then a dead-even (or close to it) endgame without fireworks. So if you're just looking for generalities, you can find them here. But if you are looking for a reason (you want to avoid or immerse yourself in tactics), then I think this is the wrong question to be asking.

Jun-30-07		yavuz1990: <tonsillolith> I think there's a way to calculate an openings strength. As Tarrasch said, the whites try to develop their pawns to e4 and d4, the blacks try to interrupt this development in the opening. You can see it in many openings easily, in Queens Indian, Nimzo-Indian, Sicilian, Italian and even Caro-Kann and French Defences. A good opening for blacks, should stop at least one of the center pawns to move two squares forward(Queens Indian stops e4), or allow this development and capture at least one of the center pawns(Sicilian Defence 1.e4 c5 2.d4 and cxd4). But these are all my opinion and it is highly probable that it's not quite right.

Jun-30-07		ganstaman: <yavuz1990> While you are correct in general, there are a number of respectable openings for black that concede to white the e4/d4 pawn center but seek compensation elsewhere. Two good examples are the French Defense and King's Indian. In both, black normally invites a closed center where white will only have a space advantage on one side of the board and black can counter-attack down the other. There's even the Pirc Defense which allows white to play e4 and d4 without a really locked center. In return, black gets... well, if I knew why black would allow this, maybe I wouldn't lose every time I played the Pirc... No, really. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to give up on the King's Indian because white can force me to transpose into a Pirc if he wants and I don't like losing that much. I think I'm going with the Dutch (1. d4 f5), which in my view most effectively and permanently stops white from playing e2-e4.

Jun-30-07		Richard Taylor: <gangstaman> is right. I play both sides of the Najdorf and love the complications (win or lose) but I was playing over a game by Judit Polgar where she was playing Timman - she was Black in the Queen's Indian and her game became excrutiatingly complex as complex as some of the games I used to see played by Tal from P H Clarke's book in the 60s - now I could only play into those by a mix of guess work and calculation and soem bluff - and I would not see much of what Judit et al see but the game is given in Nunn's book of modern master games (move by move) - and it is very instructive...I love the comlications arising from the Najdorf etc. But my opponents can play eg 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 d6 3 Bg5+ (The Moscow var.) But that game Polgar-Timman was so complex I had to stop trying to follow it ... now also many games lead to relatively quiet play ... and most chessplayers - while they may love the tactics - will find the need to know about pawn structures and general strategy to win or to even survive any game. The Nimzo (which easily turns into a QI) can be drawish but can also lead to fireworks of great intensity.. And the Caro and the French have given me some very complex games ( I mean I dont play them but when played v me.) Strategical-tactical complexities - as these two are interlinked always - arise from every opening - some of them st difficult problems arise in the English which I find hard to play with or against... it is or can be very deep ... but so can any opening. (The Najdorf is particularly sharp in many variations however). It's also a good idea to know few "traps" or alternative lines...even straight out cheapos - after all until my New Chess is started - we are all still trying to win.

Jun-30-07		Open Defence: <I think I'm going with the Dutch (1. d4 f5), which in my view most effectively and permanently stops white from playing e2-e4.> hmmm check out the Staunton Gambit ;-p

Jun-30-07		SwitchingQuylthulg: Personally, I play Owen's Defense (1.e4 b6). And I'm <glad> when people try to make a big center. e4-d4? Nice. e4-d4?-c4?? Even better. They put their bishops actively on traditional squares like c4 and g5? Good for me. They put their knights at f3 and c3? I love that. Black just needs a way to counter White's center. In the Owen, Black has plenty. The bishop at b7 pressures e4. The bishop at b4 pressures any Nc3, further pressuring e4, or can sometimes be instead developed on the long a1-h8 diagonal. Knight at f6 and sometimes pawn at f5 further increase Black's pressure on e4. The pawn at e6, together with the knight and Bb7, also controls d5. Black gets very good central control. The idea is not to put pawns and pieces vulnerably in the center, but to control the center and as large and important part of the board as possible. A model example of this theme, vulnerable central pawns vs. properly developed pieces just aiming at the center: Reti vs Yates, 1924

Jun-30-07		ganstaman: <Open Defence: <I think I'm going with the Dutch (1. d4 f5), which in my view most effectively and permanently stops white from playing e2-e4.> hmmm check out the Staunton Gambit ;-p> Ah, of course. I went to bed after posting this and hoped no one would realize :) What I meant to say is that the Dutch keeps white from maintaining the 2 pawn center better than anything else. And even that is probably not true.

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