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Harry Nelson Pillsbury vs Geza Maroczy
Paris (1900), Paris FRA, rd 6, May-28
French Defense: Tarrasch. Pawn Center Variation (C05)  ·  1-0
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Jan-22-02
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  Sneaky: Instead of 43 ... Rc8? I think Black is winning after 43 ... Bb5! Now Black can force the exchange of pieces after moves like ...Rc3 and ...Rc4. And 44. Qh6? would be strongly met with Bf1+
Jan-22-02  knight: Giving mate with a king move always leaves a pleasant effect.
Dec-20-02  prince2910: Can i play with my username and password online games . Please i ned ur advice.
Dec-22-02  pawntificator: Sneaky, I agree 43...Bb5 is a much better move. But white could at least try to draw with 43...Bb5 44 Rg8+ Kxg8 45 Qg5+ and so on, perhaps perpetual check or even a win somewhere
Feb-02-04  yoniker: Whoever is in charge of those puzzles, Qh6 was the winning move...please put some problems without sacrifices on the first move-you could do it here.
Feb-02-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  patzer2: If Blaqck plays 24...gxf3, White wins with 25. Qxh2 Kf7 26. Bg6#
Feb-02-04  kaptajn4: Come on now, turn up the level a degree or two, will you?
Feb-02-04  zugswang88: finally! I have solved a puzzle in a reasonable amount of time
Feb-02-04  hart: kaptajn4: The winning move might have been obvious to you, but it probably wasn't to Maroczy, or he would have resigned after 44. Qh6. Instead, he moves as if he never saw it coming.

chessgames.com: Personally, I am grateful to you for giving us a puzzle that I can solve immediately--intuitively, as it were--without the need for logical problem-solving. Perhaps some day I will be able to do the same with more difficult puzzles, having climbed this first rung of the ladder. Thank you for remembering the novices.

Feb-02-04  hart: prince2910: What other information are you giving the web site? If you give them nothing other than a password and a user name, I think you can sleep peacefully. If you give them your e-mail address, they can spam you. If you give them your credit card number, well, that's a different story... Even e-businesses with the highest reputations, which would probably never cheat you themselves, have had their databases invaded by hackers.
Feb-02-04
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  kevin86: chess is a game that can make a patzer look like a master in one instance and a grandmaster look like a rookie. The mating combination is both simple and instructive. Who would have thought that a king retreating could be so lethal?
Feb-02-04  WMD: I wonder if Informator will consider introducing a symbol for "Perhaps perpetual check, or even a win somewhere."
Feb-02-04  hiddemen: Though not as elegant, wouldn't 45 Re1 force at least a rook for queen trade, or mate?
Feb-02-04  uponthehill: Very nice, so simple and so insidious of Pillsbury :)
Feb-02-04  eainca: 35....Rf4 looks to me as the start of the end for Maroczy.
Feb-02-04  mack: I did get this one quickly - and that's by no means a slight on those who didn't. But interestingly I used almost the same manouevere a few years back, I wonder if I've seen this game before. Hmm.
Feb-02-04  siimens: well, unlike many made-up puzzles, these ones have happened in real life,

You can find more complicated ones but just blame that one on Maroczy,I just take it as intresting samples

Feb-02-04  Dick Brain: I must have solved at least five puzzles before where the win came from a king move that made way to clear a file for a major piece although this one was more direct than usual.
Feb-02-04  erikcu: If the puzzle seems easy, just look over the game... this one (as most are)is very complex. Another thing worth doing is trying to pinpoint where the game went off track; which often can be assisted by computer evalations of board position. I think it is the user Crafty that often provides useful and detailed analysis in that vain.

I have no complaints about any of the puzzles, I enjoy the ones that come to me in a flash, and I like the real stumpers. Sometimes I just kick myself at how simple it was, but I was thinking too strictly about one idea. (mate opposed to capturing a valuable piece).

Great puzzles all of them.

Feb-03-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  patzer2: 7. Ngf3 is a rarely played move that might be useful as a surprise weapon at the amateur level. Theory favors 7. Ndf3, and prefers development of the Knight on f1 to e2 to facilitate center control and queenside expansion.

Perhaps 7...f6 as in Black's win in I Blek vs Tal, 1955 provides a good antidote to White's kingside attacking intentions.

Also to be considered is 7...Qb6 to pressure the Queenside as in J Cempel vs E Prandstetter, 2001 or Alekhine vs Kukovec, 1930

In addition, 7...cxd4 as in Aronin vs Petrosian, 1957 seems to give Black a solid game.

Black's reply of 7...Be2 looks like it may be sound, but probably needs to be followed up with more aggressive Queenside and central expansion than in this game, analagous to the play in Serper vs Shabalov, 1988

May-31-04  blackkangaroo: Pillsbury a Master Tactician !
Jul-12-05  aw1988: Kg2#

How often do you see that!?

Dec-20-05  DeepBlade: <aw1988> It was a great move for Pillsbury, he had great joy at writing it down, thinking ''You have been mated by my King, <insert evil laugh>''
Jan-03-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: Maroczy never moved his bad light-squared bishop after "developing" it with 11 ... ♗d7. It just sat there behind its own pawns for the whole game.
Jan-03-06
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  Pawn and Two: Pillsbury needed to force the draw at move 43. Rg3-g8+. With 43...Bd7-b5! Black could win as the perpetual check is no longer possible.

Of course, had Pillsbury played the correct 43rd move, he would not have had the pleasure of a very pretty winning finish, topped off with a mate delivered by moving his King!

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