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| Aug-19-05 | | Dirk Diggler: blackBURN would not have been beaten here |
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| Aug-19-05 | | sfm: <al wazir: ...Burn should have defended more actively, perhaps with 15...Qf6>
Maybe he didn't like 16.Qxe8+! :-)
<Did Marshall really write those notes? "Swindle" sounds too modern.> I think he did. Already in his own time he was known as "The Great Swindler", according to the notes about him on this site. But if, in the notes, the scoresheet for the game had been called "Swindler's List" I think you'd have a point.Unfortunately Marchall did not say what black should do after 10.h4. It looks all a bit unpleasant, I now think that 7.-,Bb7 is dubious and should have been 7.-,Nd7. Definitely 13.-,Bg7 is hopeless, while 13.-,Kg7 seems OK. Terrific notes! =)) |
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| Aug-19-05 | | RookFile: Ok, <al wazir>, you prefer the capture
... Nxd5. What you are describing
is the modern Tartakower defense. That was Fischer's preference when he played this line. I forgot the exact reason why, but there is a nuance: if you want to play this way, it is considered best to throw.... h6 in
first for black, forcing white to play Bh4. |
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| Aug-19-05 | | Drifter: I think Marshall incorperated the pipe story to illistrate how quickly the game was actually played. |
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| Aug-19-05 | | catlover: This game demonstrates that smoking is hazardous to your health. |
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| Aug-19-05 | | who: <sfm> Fritz suggests 10...c5 as equal. In fact it suggests 11...c5 as the only move that leaves black in the game. |
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| Aug-19-05 | | RookFile: And 10... c5 is logical, because black meets white's wing action with
play in the center. |
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Aug-19-05
 | | patzer2: In the game notes, Marshall suggests Burn played 10...g6 because of the threat of "Bxh7+, Kxh7, Ng5+, known as the Pillsbury attack." However, after 10...c5! (<who>'s excellent suggestion takes on Marshall's challenge) 11. Bxh7+? (the simple 11. dxc5 equalizes for White) 11...Kxh7 12. Ng5+ Kh6! 13. Qg4 g6 , Black survives the complications and emerges with a winning advantage. |
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Aug-19-05
 | | patzer2: After 13...Bg7? (Black's only chance was 13...Re7 14. 0-0-0 ) 14. Bxg6!, Marshall initiates a winning demolition of pawn structure combination for a quick deflection mate:<14. Bxg6 fxg6> (relatively better but still losing for Black is 14... c5 15. Bh7+ Kf8 16. O-O-O Na6 17. Qf5 ) <15. Qxg6 Nd7> All other options lose for Black: (a) 15... Kf8 16. Ng5 Qd7 17. Nh7+ Ke7 18. Qxg7+ ; (b) 15... Qd7 16. Ng5 Kf8 17. Nh7+ ;
(c) 15... Qf6? 16. Qxe8+ ;
(d) 15... Nc6 16. Ng5
Qf6 17. Rh8+ Kxh8 18. Qh7#
<16. Ng5 Qf6 17. Rh8+ Kxh8 18. Qh7# 1-0> |
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| Aug-19-05 | | TwinFeats: RookFile mentioned that Burn always accepted sacrifices - my philosophy is something like that: If I can't find the winning line for my oppononent, I always accept sacrifices as well. =) I've won games that way, and lost them, too. |
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| Aug-19-05 | | sfm: Thanks to many for the enligthening! |
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Aug-19-05
 | | kevin86: It's lucky Burn wasn't a plumber having pipe trouble--the game might have been finished under water. Maybe that's how the Americans won the Revolutionary War-The Brits couldn't get their pipes lit and the whites of their eyes showed. Wait until Burn got his revenge-and Marshall had to pay the piper. |
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| Aug-19-05 | | John Crenshaw: This is a classic game; not only a good game but a great illustration of the match itself. Brilliant storytelling by Mr. Marshall. It's as if one is really there watching the match. |
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| Aug-19-05 | | TheSlid: Amusing commentary from Marshall on what happens when a flank attack is not countered by play against the centre : ) |
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| Aug-19-05 | | schnarre: More like a confirmation of the hazards of smoking! |
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| Aug-19-05 | | morphynoman2: More exactly, the game is here:
http://coxschess.tripod.com/pipegam... |
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| Aug-19-05 | | Gangsterman: I've heard that Burn hardly got a chance to light his pipe but the commetary by Marshall brings it to life! |
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Aug-19-05
 | | al wazir: <sfm: Burn should have defended more actively, perhaps with 15...Qf6 Maybe he didn't like 16.Qxe8+!> I don't like it much either. |
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| Aug-19-05 | | teme: Nice game, good comments. |
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Aug-19-05
 | | al wazir: <patzer2: Black's only chance was 13...Re7 14. 0-0-0> What about 13...Kg7 (suggested by <sfm>)? Then 14. O-O-O Rh8. |
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Aug-19-05
 | | Calli: See Teschner vs Spassky, 1959 where Marshall's attacking idea is defeated. |
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| Aug-20-05 | | RookFile: Thanks Calli. That's a great game,
Spassky certainly had ice water in
his veins to be able to defend that
king side attack like he did. |
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Aug-20-05
 | | patzer2: <al wazir> <What about 13...Kg7> Not a bad suggestion at all, as it offers Black about as much as 13...Re7 14. 0-0-0. However, after 13... Kg7!? 14. O-O-O
Nd7 (14... Rh8 15. Rxh8 Qxh8 16. e4 Nc6 17. e5 Be7 18. Nxd5 Nxd4 19. Nxd4 Bxd5 20. Be4 Bxe4 21. Qxe4 Rd8 22. Rf1 Qh5 23. f4 Bc5 24. Nc6 Re8 25. b4 Bf8 26. Nxa7 c5 27. b5 Qf5 28. Qxf5 gxf5 29. Nc6 f6 30. a4 ) 15. e4 dxe4 16. Bxe4 Qc8 17. Kb1 a6 18. Qb3 Bxe4+ 19. Nxe4 Nf8 20. Nxf6 Qf5+ 21. Ka1 Qxf6 22. Ne5 Ne6 23. Qc3 Ng5 24. f4 Ne4 25. Qf3 Nd6 26. d5 (+1.56 @ 12 depth), Fritz 8 has White winning. |
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Aug-20-05
 | | Calli: <RookFile> Heh, I just realized that CG has Spassky losing that game. He really did win, but I don't actually have a rock solid source to send to CG. |
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Aug-21-05
 | | Benzol: <Calli> Boris Spassky's 300 Wins says that Spassky won on move 78.
<Swindler> and <sneaky pete> noted the same thing on the game thread and <acirce> pointed out an alternative version with Spassky winning.
I have submitted a correction report so hopefully we can get this cleared up. |
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