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| Jun-21-09 | | Granny O Doul: This was my favorite game, or favorite finish, anyway, in the Tartakover-Dumont book. |
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| Oct-04-10 | | sevenseaman: Mason has shown enterprise and ingenuity.
24, Bc8+ is brilliant. It produces an awkward double check that compromises the future of the Black Q as the B screens off the R. |
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| Oct-22-10 | | kevin86: James Mason's chess play is as good as the actor's acting. A brilliant game-the 43rd move is a fine one-equal to Marshall's Great swindle moves and close to his gold piece move. |
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| Oct-22-10 | | twin phoenix: wow this was a great game! <patzer2> has hit the nail on the head with his analysis, and yes the technique of winning with B+Q versus 2 R was impeccable. My Q is very early on. 5. B-e3!? is this a good move for white? I know from practicle experience that it's in no way easy to refute this move. but what about 5.--,Bxe3?
Pro:
black exchanges his 'bad bishop' for whites good one.
Con:
White recaptures 6. fxe3 and white gets an extra center pawn and a semi-open F file for his rook.
I have never really been able to determine if the resulting position is good for white or not?? I hope some of my outstanding chessgames colleagues can offer some insight... |
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| Oct-22-10 | | twin phoenix: playing thru the game 1 last time i noticed black wastes a tempo by moving the c5 bishop once before going ahead and exchanging as in my previous post. If Bxe3 was going to be played, should it not have been played immediately?? |
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| Oct-22-10 | | twin phoenix: sorry for the multiple posts but this game is worth looking at carefully!!
40. Rxg5!! has not been mentioned above as an outstanding move so i will say that it's truly gorgeous chess.
Would black have not been better off with 42. --,Qxd7,however? Yes, it will drop a rook after 43. Qxd7,Kxd7 44. Rxb8 but the resulting rook ending would seem more preferable for black than what actually happened. |
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Oct-22-10
 | | chrisowen: And tch in hoar. Frost white knight in event ok opening ray sunshine nh4 nf5 parennial spell. Right it seeth ring black king comrade part wart rf6 oy installed ears to cupping rook xg5. Black raft work cheese going favors whites wagon. |
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Oct-22-10
| | chrisowen: Slot rocket qh7+ hell man salad dressing 45.qxg8 reign. Bow to mat king a7 ji web lush rien more. Did late in dangle queenside stonewall it mouse chess yussow? |
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| Feb-28-12 | | master of defence: Isn´t better 42... Qxd7? After 43. Qxd7+ Kxd7 44. Rxb8 Rxf5 black is down 2 pawns, but is better than the game, no? |
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Feb-29-12
 | | Sastre: If 42...Qxd7, 43.Rc4+ Kd8 44.Qh8+ Qe8 45.Qxf6+ Qe7 46.Qh8+ Qe8 47.Qg7 Qe7 48.Qg8+ Qe8 49.Qxg5+ Qe7 50.f6  . |
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| May-24-12 | | Anderssen99: Isn't 46.Qe8 stronger? |
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| Nov-19-12 | | JonathanJ: ..
46. Bb7+ Kxb7
47. Qh7+
or 46. Bb7+ Ka7
47. Qh7
should win right away. |
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May-11-13
 | | Phony Benoni: <"Mason was born in Ireland.
"New York adopted him at an early age. As critic and author, I think his fame is secure. He ranked high in many tournaments. As player, he had the unique quality of competently simmering through six aching hours and scintillating in the seventh. Other resembled him but forgot to scintillate. "The deep, charming combination begun with 39.Qh5 rises on wings."> -- William Ewart Napier |
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| Aug-30-13 | | notyetagm: J Mason vs Winawer, 1882 In the immortal words of GM Susan Polgar,
WOOOOOOOWWWWW! |
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| Jun-03-16 | | The Kings Domain: Quite a thrilling game contested ably well by the combatants. |
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| Jul-24-17 | | sudoplatov: 44.Bc8 reminds me of the famous Reti vs Bogolyubov game in 1924. |
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| Apr-13-20 | | Messiah: what a retarded pun |
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Sep-28-21
 | | GrahamClayton: The mobility of Mason's pieces was the key feature of the game for me - they way that they could move from the K-side to the Q-side to exploit the weaknesses in Winawer's position. |
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Jan-29-24
 | | Sally Simpson: As chancho mentions above J Mason vs Winawer, 1882 (kibitz #10) Lasker uses this game and stops at move '46 Qd8 resigns.' It is in the chapter 'The Aesthetic Effect in Chess' which in a nutshell speaks of how we kibitzers go all dewy-eyed we when we see a beautiful move (43.Rb7) when in some cases there were easier winning moves available. Lasker calls 40. Rxg5 'A charming conception' the move 43.Rb7 is passed by without comment.
Years ago I looked at this game and wondering why Lasker had chosen it for that chapter. At the time I was unaware of the extra moves that Lasker missed out (or has someone's analysis been added?) So assuming Lasker wants the reader to do some work I looked for another way to win. Here (White to play)
click for larger viewInstead of 43.Rb7 How about 43.Rc4+ a move I used later in an unheard melody (a favourite topic of mine. In this case an unheard melody in a beautiful song.) it hides the Queen sac 43. Rc4+ Kb6 44. Rc6+ Ka7 45. Bc8+ Qxh7 46. Ra6 mate 
click for larger viewNot forced, but when looking to make it work or find another cute win you soon realise just how good 43. Rc4+ is. There is 43.Rc4+ Kb6 44.Qe7 with taking on e4 and a quicker 'easier' win to follow. In respect to 43.Rb7, 43.Rc4+ Kb6 44.Qe7 is an ugly move ( to these dewy-eyes.) but it is there and can lead to more obvious and easier ways to win (though define 'obvious' and 'easier' this will differ from player of varying strength.) Lasker does not elaborate on this game and why he chose it. It comes right after he has looked at The Evergreen Anderssen vs Dufresne, 1852 where 19.Rad1 is the portrayed as the aesthetic villain. Which is a bit harsh considering that game was a friendly when players can be in more of a 'this looks interesting' mood than going for a risk free win. If you are having trouble appreciating the Evergreen then just view 19.Rad1 as an imaginative OTB trap that worked...and, as in this threads game, aesthetically pleasing. |
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Sep-29-24
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Already knew this one. Two already known this week, two flubs, not a bad week. |
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| Sep-29-24 | | mel gibson: I saw the first few moves straight away.
Stockfish 17 fights a lot harder and says:
40. Rxg5
(40. Rxg5 (1.Rxg5 Qh8 2.Rxb8 Kxb8 3.Rg6 Rf8 4.Qh4 Qe5 5.Qxh6
Rh8 6.Qg7 Qxg7 7.Rxg7 Nd3 8.Rb7+ Kc8 9.Ra7 Rh6 10.Rxa3 Ne5 11.Ra4 Rh5
12.Rxe4 Rxf5 13.Bb5 Rf8 14.h4 Rh8) +6.41/45 499) score for White +6.41 depth 45. |
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| Sep-29-24 | | mel gibson: Notice above that Stockfish 17 declines the Rook. What if I force SF to accept the Rook?
40. Rxg5 hxg5
41. Qh7+ (41. Qh7+ {(1.Qh7+ Kd8 2.Qh8+ Kc7 3.Qxf6 Qf8
4.Qxg5 Rd8 5.Rb5 Rd7 6.Bxd7 Nxd7 7.Rb1 Qh8 8.Qe7 Qxc3 9.Qxe4 Kd8 10.Rf1 Nf6
11.Qd4 Qb2 12.Qxb2 axb2 13.Rb1 Ne4 14.Rxb2 Nc3 ) +8.56/51 440) score for White +8.56 depth 51. |
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Sep-29-24
| | chrisowen: In got c q jaw its ho its yu v its z Rxg5 its abridge its lug its affable its packforth its aih its sh its cc buck its with coffin its abe its leeway its dub its choose its add nod its abluff frazzle its Rxg5 its ed |
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Sep-29-24
 | | scormus: Nice sequence! I probably shouldn't take much credit as several of the moves appealed on aesthetic grounds. I didn't analyse B declining the Rg5. Got the text as far as 46 W to play. W can threaten # with Qe8 or Qe8, but I thought Qe8 looked stronger as B cannot then stop it by Rxd5. However, SF rated them almost the same. I suppose the engines don't care if one route to the same end is easier or harder for a human to work out. |
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| Sep-29-24 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: The King's first try was: 40. Rxg5 hxg5 41. Qh7+ Nd7 42. Bxd7 Qxd7 43. Qxd7+ Kxd7 44. Rxb8 Rxf5 45. c4... next Rb3-Rxa3 with 2 extra ♙ seems to win. B can refuse with: 40... Qf8 41. Rg6 Rxf5 42. Rg7+ Kc8 43. Qg4, W has good chances to win. |
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