| Jul-17-09 | | Knight13: You sure Black can't win this in the final position? Just play ...b5, lock up the kingside with pawns so White king can't penetrate, then bring the king to the queen side. Hmm... Don't know if it works. |
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| Jul-17-09 | | Keith Dow: This is one possible scenario.
28 g4 g5
29 Ke2 Ke6
30 Kd2 Kd6
31 c3 Kc5
32 Kc2 dxc3
33 Kxc3 b5
34 Kd2 bxa4
35 bxa4 Kd4
36 Kc2 c5
37 Kd2 c4
38 dxc4 Kxc4
Black wins |
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| Nov-25-09 | | offramp: It is a draw, Dudes! |
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| Nov-25-09 | | Bozantium: ...b5 doesn't work because white can never be forced to take it. |
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Nov-26-09
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: This is more complex than it appears on the surface. If Black's King reaches b4, then ...b6-b5 and White will be forced to capture. For example, 28.Ke2,Ke6; 29.Kd2,Kd6; 30.Kc1?,Kc5; 31.Kb2,Kb4 and ...b5 is coming. So 30.c3,dxc3+; 31.Kxc3,Kc5 holds back the Black King. However! Black has the Opposition, and if he can zugzwang the White King into abandoning the c3 square, Black will invade. Therefore, the final position might prove tricky for White to handle, and Chigorin should have kept playing. |
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| Nov-26-09 | | paul1959: 28Kg3! and Black will have to block the K side before going for the a4 pawn. |
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Nov-26-09
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: <paul1959>, I agree; Black must prevent White's incursion to f5. Chigorin might have tried to accomplish this by 28...g6 and 29...h6. Note that if Black is successful, White has taken his King further away from the Queen side. The key issue is this--can Black create a pawn formation like e4 and g4 (or h4) vs. ...e5 and ...g5 (or ...h5) with the White King still on the third rank? |
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| Nov-30-09 | | paul1959: A second look to the position shows that 28 Ke2 is even better. Now if 28 Ke7 29 Kf3 draws. So the critical position is 28 Ke2 Kg5 30 g3 h5 31 Ke1! White is ready to go to d2 or f2 depending on Black move. For example 31 ... Kf6 32 Kd2 or 31 ... h4 32 Kf2. Even with the smart 31 ... Kf6 32 Kd2 h4 33 gxh4 White will get back in time to g2. |
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