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Harry Nelson Pillsbury vs Simon Winawer
"The Trouble with Harry" (game of the day Jan-06-13)
Budapest (1896)  ·  Semi-Slav Defense: Chigorin Defense (D46)  ·  1-0
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Nov-14-03  Shadout Mapes: 20...fxe5 21.Qg6+ Kf8 22.fxe5+ Ke7 23.Rf7+ Ke8 24.Rxc7 Nxc7 and with two passed pawns, and threats like Rd1 and Qf5, white's in good shape.
Apr-03-04  Benjamin Lau: Winawer delayed his "freeing move" ...c5 for too long, permitting Pillsbury to physically inhibit it with 14. c5! 14. Ne5 carried the not so subtle threat of 15. Ng4 threatening mate, so Winawer was played 15...Bxc5!? to obscure things. The remainder of the game was a quick slaughter.
Jul-23-04  vonKrolock: a very impressively sustained attack, whith an elementary force that one could call just 'pillsburian'...Winawer's 15...Bxc5 is quite a comprehensive attempt,but followed, after 16.Bxh6!, by 16...Rd8!: then Pillsbury had 17.Bxg7!! (not 18.Qg3 Nh5! etc) Rxd4 (or 17...Kxg7 18.Qe3+ whith a nice Knight check winning the Quenn if the King moves) 18.Qe3!! Kxg7 19.Qg5 etc - near the finish: 20.f4! Qg7 (best) 21.Qh5! followed by the deadly Rf3 would end
Jun-07-07  wolfmaster: He "baked" Winawer here!
Aug-11-10
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  LIFE Master AJ: http://www.lifemasteraj.com/old_af-...
Aug-11-10
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  LIFE Master AJ: The above page was actually a suggestion of my wife, Julie. (Cancer killed her, Jan. 13th, 2008.)

Let me see if I can condense a fairly lengthy story.

At one time, I was "KING" of Internet chess. I had hundreds of pages on server that was owned by the "Excite" group. (They went belly up in the big "DOT-COM CRASH" of the late 1990's.)

The Excite group folded, all of my chess files were wiped out overnight. (A computer crash had knocked out my computer just a few weeks prior to this, no backups for me in those days.) I was very disappointed ... and more than a little depressed. For weeks, I did nothing about it.

Then one - early in the day - day my wife challenged me to pick a game. I picked this one ... I had always been a huge fan of Pillsbury.

She told me that I should analyze the game like I would for one of my chess students. (In depth.) She also told me that I should include as much information as possible, like a bio of both players. I said something like: "Baby, that would be days ... no, WEEKS of work!" She DARED me, (with a big smile on her face); knowing I could never resist her in that department.

I set to work. It took a lot of time. (Most of my pages - up to that time - were hastily constructed things, I used to do as many as 50 in a single day.) During the process of working on this page, my depression cleared. I got re-energized and excited again about working on chess for the Internet. (This one page may have also generated more e-mail than all my other Excite pages put together.)

So if you like this page, thank my wife. Indeed, she should enjoy most of the credit for many of my current web pages. (Knowing how I was back then, it was entirely possible that I could have allowed my depression - over the failure of the EXCITE group - to overwhelm me, Julie was not about to allow that to happen.)

Jan-06-13  RookFile: This game is yet another example of interesting, incisive play by Pillsbury. Win, lose or draw, I have never played through a boring Pillsbury game.
Jan-06-13  sofouuk: white was already well ahead, but 19... f5 (blocking the Bc2) was a better defense. also after 19...f6 20.f4 the natural Qg7! puts up more resistance (rybka has 21.Qh5 Re7 22.Rf3 fxe5 23.fxe5 Bd7 (black must give up the Q to avoid mate) 24.Raf1! (but white is in no hurry to take it) Be8 25.Qh4 Bg6 26.Bxg6 Qxg6 27.Rg3 Qxg3 28.Qxg3 Rg7 29.Qh3


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still some work to do

Jan-06-13
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  Abdel Irada: Excellent game, misleading pun. The "troubled" player here was not Pillsbury but Winawer.

"Simple Simon," however, would probably be unnecessarily disrespectful, since Winawer also has many fine games to his credit.

Jan-06-13
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  perfidious: < Benjamin Lau: Winawer delayed his "freeing move" ...c5 for too long, permitting Pillsbury to physically inhibit it with 14. c5!....>

This comment is inaccurate: it is not so easy to effect ....c5 in this variation, as the immediate 10....c5 is actually weak-White gets a strong attack after 11.Bc2. Opening Explorer The real problem is the natural 10....Nf6, which does nothing to assist Black's ideas of either ....e5 or ....c5, the former of which, when played immediately, loses a pawn after 11.dxe5 Nxe5 12.Nxe5 Bxe5 13.Bxh7+.

The strongest tenth move is probably 10....h6, a speciality of Arthur Bisguier, who won a game against me with this in 1985. In A Shaw vs A Escobedo Tinajero, 2001, I also faced 10....h6, but my opponent undid his good work by transposing to the same unfavourable line featured in this game after 11.Bc2 Nf6.

Jan-06-13
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Methinks Mr. Winawer had lots of trouble with Harry. Perhaps he should have played his own gambit?
Jan-06-13
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  sfm: <"Abdel Irada: Excellent game, misleading pun. The "troubled" player here was not Pillsbury but Winawer."> I don't think it was misleading. It was indeed Winawer experiencing the trouble with Harry, which was, that Harry was too bloody excellent. Such a pity that he had to go so early.
Jan-06-13
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  morfishine: The striking thing about Pillsbury is his <1.d4> games look like <1.e4> games
Jan-06-13
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  FSR: The trouble with Harry is that he got syphilis before Fleming discovered penicillin.
Jan-06-13
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  Jack Kerouac: If Pillsbury was playing today, with his talent's, with books and video sales- He would be a real Dough Boy.....
Jan-06-13  Strongest Force: If he was young today he would be the Pillsbury Dough ($$$) Boy.
Jan-06-13  gars: <LIFE Master AJ Goldsby> I am one of the many many guys who enjoy your comments and analysis. As you have just told us, we owe your deceased wife that. As an observant Roman Catholic, I'll pray for her soul.
Jan-06-13  TheTamale: Sorry about your wife, <AJ>. That's rough. Keep your head up!
Jan-06-13  drnooo: good pun, sorta: though hard to correlate it exactly to Hitchcock, if you know anything about the film. it merely borrows the title, otherwise blank to see any correspondence...but seems CG has to HAVE their funs with puns no matter what
Jan-06-13  Aniara: The film is really quite charming, with a peculiar mix of laughter and darkness. It was Shirley MacLaine's first.
Jan-06-13
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  xeneizexxx: I love this player
Jan-06-13
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  whiteshark: Better was <8...dxc4 9.Bxc4 e5!>
Jan-07-13
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  kevin86: White threatens mate in two. Sadly,black's best defense,Rh7 allows mate in ONE!
Jan-08-13
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  tamar: Too bad we don't get to see the sequence Von Krolock gave < 16...Rd8 17 Bxg7!! Rxd4> which illustrates one of Pillsbury's famous quotes,

“So set up your attacks that when the fire is out, it isn't out”.


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Here I think 18 Qe3 Rg4! might hold for Black, but

18 Qg3 Nh5 19 Qh3 f5 20 Qxh5 Qxg7 21 Rae1 Rd5 22 Nf3 Qh8 23 Qg5 Qg7 24 Qc1 gradually consolidating should win.

Jul-22-14  capafischer1: An amazing player with great tactical vision. Pillsbury had an even record with Lasker too after 14 games. Capablanca met him in Cuba when Capa was a little boy and saw him crush everyone playing blindfolded chess while playing cards and reciting a long list of words to display his amazing memory. Truly, one of the most underrated chess players who died way too soon. His best games look very modern too.
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