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John Washington Baird vs Rudolf Spielmann
"At Daggers Drawn" (game of the day Jun-28-2007)
Barmen Meisterturnier B (1905), Barmen GER, rd 3, Aug-16
Italian Game: Italian Variation (C50)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Jul-09-04  Poohavez: Neat fortress in R+p vs B!!!
Jun-28-07  RandomVisitor: 60.Rb7+ was the last chance white had to proceed to the win.

Play might have continued: 60.Rb7+ Ka8 61.Rf7 Bh2 62.Rf8+ Bb8 63.Kb5 Ka7 64.a6 Ka8 65.Re8 Ka7 66.Re7+ Ka8 67.Kb6 Bh2 68.a7 Bg1+ 69.Ka6 Bxa7 70.Rxa7+ etc.

Jun-28-07  Magic Castle: Too many mistakes by white. The most frustrating is 41. Rh6. I think better is 41. Rfd7 for a double pin. This will give white time to connect the a and b pawns and later to capture the black a pawn. The black king will be tied up defending the bishop. He needs at least 2 moves to unlock the pin, giving white a lot of time. Why hurry to pick up the h pawn. It cannot escape anyway and can be defended by the white king.
Jun-28-07  syracrophy: Is this a real drawish position? Or White played a bad endgame?

I can't believe that this is a draw!

Jun-28-07  jmrulez2004: the reason it is a draw is due to the fact that the pawn is...in the coirner, if it was a central passed pawn..then..it would not have beena draw anymore
Jun-28-07
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  Gypsy: <the reason it is a draw is due to the fact that the pawn is...in the coirner> There is more to it: (1) The corner is known as the <safe corner> of the ♖ vs ♗ end-games. (2) The pawn has advanced too far.

I believe that it was a collection of Vancura's studies from mid 1920's that established a (more-less definitive) theory for these end-games.

Jun-28-07  Wolfgang01: Such a remis i didn't know. But i think if the Bishop would walk on white fields, white can win with a tempozug.
Jun-28-07  Jack Kerouac: I wouldn't mind walking on white fields for a tempozug.
Jun-28-07  hucknoog: At first I thought why not 25 Rxf7, but then I saw 25...Bg1+ 26.Kh1 Qxh3
Jun-28-07  twin phoenix: Why doesn't white play 19. N-e5!, Nxd1 20. Nxd7...? seems to me black will have a hard time rescuing the d1 knight leaving white a piece ahead. i'm sure someone will point out the flaw in my logic but i just don't see it.
Jun-28-07  CapablancaFan: <twin phoenix> Yeah, I have been looking at that line and it seems that even the best defence loses at least the exchange. Check it out- 19.Ne5! Nxd1 20. Nxd7 <Threatening a discovered check, while the knight on d1 is still enprise> 20...Ne3 <To at least protect the knight> 21.Nb6+! <Discovered check, attacking the rook also> 21...Kd8 22. Bxe3! <This capture must be made first as the knight was attacking the rook on f1> 22...Bxe3 <Forced or black goes down a whole piece> 23.Nxa8! The knight wont be able to escape, but black is down an exchange instead of a whole piece!. We'll that's my take on it. Interesting to see what others think.
Jun-28-07
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  kevin86: It really looked bad at move 32:black had lost rook for bishop and now his queen was pinned. He does have a unique type of counter-he "interposes his bishop on the back end of the pin with a check. He then uses the freed queen to threaten mate the next move.

The ending was hard on white. A rook pawn is a terrible pawn to try to win with-especially when the adverse king can get to the queening square. Then,the bishop is perfect,being the opposite color of the queening square. Also,the bishop can set up stalemate possibilities at b8.

Jun-28-07  tatarch: This is just an instructive game all around--tactics in the beginning and middle, and endgame in, well, the end...

I notice someone suggested 41.Rd7 as an improvement--maybe also 41.Rff6 instead of 41.Rh6?

Jun-28-07  twin phoenix: CapablancaFan instead of 21. Nb6+ (after 20...,Ne3) i had considered 21.NxC5+ removing the NE3's defender and then collecting the errant knight. Did you consider 19. N-e5, Nxd1 20. Nxd7, O-0-0? seems he still loses a piece after this too. glad to see you thought 19. N-e5! was an improvement though. i'm always a bit self concious when i think i find an improvement over GM play. (one of the first things one notices about master play is that there is usually a very good reason why they chose the move they did...) tks
Jun-28-07  mjk: <Nalimov> win in 36 for White at move 45.

BUT at http://www.k4it.de/index.php?topic=...


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has Rg7 White win in 6 but


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has ...Bf2 draw!

this is a credibility disaster! Is Nalimov wrong?

Jun-28-07  Shadout Mapes: <mjk> first of all, the position you show is move 60 for white. also, Rf7 wins, not Rg7. the point is to keep the black bishop off the a7-g1 diagonal while making mate threats against the black king (who cannot go too far from the white pawn). eventually, black must give up his bishop to avoid mate, leaving white up a rook.

sample line:
60.Rf7 Bh2 61.Rb7+ Ka8 62.Rg7! <not allowing Bg1> Bf4 63.Rf7 Be5 <obviously, 63..Be3? 64.Rf8#> 64.Rf8+ Bb8 65.Kb5 Ka7 66.a6 Ka8 67.Re8 Ka7 68.Re7 Ka8 69.Kb6 Bf4 70.a7 Be3+ 71.Ka6 <Rxe3? stalemates> and black has to sac the bishop to prevent Re8

Jul-27-08
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  4tmac: <Shadout Mapes> notes to <mjk> diagrams are the idea. R-f7! wins. I have little to add to blacks fine defense in this game except-going back to mjk diagram black moves first: ... B-f2! R-b7+ K-c8!(K-a8? loses). Other than the "wrong color" rook pawn, this ending is easy. Here, it's tricky. 2 moves win at move 60. R-f7! shown below. The other more generic line here: 60. R-b7+ K-a8 (if ..K-c8 61. K-b6 B-f2+(too late!) 62. K-c6 then advance the pawn) 61. R-e7 B-h2 62. R-e8 B-b8


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63. K-b5! (stalemate!) ..K-b7 64. a6+ K-a7 65. R-e7 K-a8 66. K-b6 B-g3 67. a7!-----don't advance the pawn too early (past the 4th or 5th rank) and watch out for stalemate!

Sep-18-12  vinidivici: 8.Kh2 .... lol

if theres any consolation in this game, it surely that move. Never saw that before.

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