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Alfred Ehrhardt Post vs Aron Nimzowitsch
"Evening Post" (game of the day Apr-26-09)
Barmen Meisterturnier B (1905)  ·  Queen's Gambit Declined: Chigorin Defense. Main Line (D07)  ·  1/2-1/2
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May-28-10
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  YouRang: The solution is simple enough. Stalemate is the obvious tactic, only the rook is mobile, and it has only one square that makes the stalemate stick.

But what a game! White worked so hard to escape the crazy-rook draw, only to fall into the stalemate trap. Good perseverance by black, but I think white should have won.

For example, on move 90, white had this position:


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He played 90.Rcc4 threatening the a-pawn, but it's easily parried by ...Ra8.

A stronger plan would be to create mate threats by pushing the black king against a wall with 90.Rc3+!

This would go: 90...Kb2 <if 90...Rb3, then 90.Rcc4 wins the pawn>

91.Rh3 <setting up double rook rolling mate attack> Rb7+ <if 91...a3? then 92.Rd2+ Kc1 93.Rg2 wins>

92.Kc6 <black out of checks; but K now on open file FWIW> Rb3 <giving K a way to avoid being pushed to 1st rank>

93.Rh2+! <force K to a3 or lose a-pawn> Ka3 [diagram]


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94.Rhh4! <and pawn is a goner>

May-28-10
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  beenthere240: 88...Rb2 threatens an entirely different type of draw. Rxb2, Kxb2 and white must give up his rook to stop the a pawn.
May-28-10
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  chrisowen: No raising the standard. I salute stringing along the masterful Rc8+ crumpled, gearing white's psyche into playing Kb1. Brief copy looking for a stalemate Nimzowitsch is flagging. Drum up exposed king he nods off backward, calmness allowing Rb8. It is a thumping of game knocks, man Post must have been fuming. Let er your guard down and Aron gets back with a smacker in time.
May-28-10
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  David2009: <syracrophy> Nice puzzle! Play it out here http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t...
May-28-10
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  David2009: Finding the win at move 61 (White to play) is difficult:


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http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... Can you do better against Crafty than Post did against Nimzowitsch?

May-28-10  VincentL: This game, like others in the puzzles this week, was played more than 100 years ago.

A drawing opportunity arose (stalemate or perpetual), and was taken. But one wonders whether modern GMs would have resigned much earlier, so eliminating the possiblity of a "last minute swindle".

One might argue that they should play on longer, but with the number of tournaments and games today, it would probably not be practical to do so.

May-28-10  zooter: Well, this ain't so difficult

98...Rc4 and now the rook cannot be taken by either of the white rooks (leading to stalemate). White cannot off course move the b rook away without losing the d-rook.

Time to check. Stalemate week rules!

May-28-10  turbo231: I agree, easy for a Friday.
May-28-10
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  whiteshark: Here is a tougher Friday nut for you

Oldrich Duras; Sachove Listy, 1901:


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<White to move, draws <>>

You can peeK the solution at my forum... :D

May-28-10  zooter: Rc4 draws or not? I'm a little drunk :)
May-28-10  zooter: Ok, i got it after 98...Rc4 99.Rbxc4 white wins..
May-28-10
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  whiteshark: Cheers, <zooter>!
May-28-10
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  YouRang: <YouRang><A stronger plan would be to create mate threats by pushing the black king against a wall with 90.Rc3+!>

Well, that "stronger plan" I proposed would have been a stronger plan for *me* (at least one that I could understand).

Now that I've fed the game into the computer, it seems that white's plan was fine until of course 98.Kb1? which gave up the win.

Next time I might try doing the analysis *before* I post. :-\

May-28-10
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  ajk68: Way too easy for Friday.
May-28-10
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  luzhin: 98.Kd1 is also winning. In fact, any legal move wins EXCEPT for 98.Kb1?? which allows the stalemate trick. The teenage Nimzovitch was quite a swindler.
May-28-10  wals: Of course, Rb8, what else. I went for Rd8. Maybe next time.

Rybka 3 1-cpu: 3071 mb hash: depth 30:

Black, down a pawn, blunders

+4.85 60...Rxf3. better, Rh8, +2.15.

White, up a Rook, blunders

=0.00 71.Kg5. better, Ke5, +4.91.

Black, down a rook,

+4.92 76...Rh6+. no better valued move available.

Black, Pawn for a Rook.

+(#9) 95...Ra6. better, Rh5, +6.05,
Rg5,+11.06.

+(#7) 96...Ra8.

+(#6) 97...Rc8+.

White, a Rook for a pawn, crashes,

=0.00 98.Kb1. better, Rbc4, or Rdc4,
+(#6).

May-28-10  wals: Nalimov Endgame tablesases

to move 97...Rc8+

White
Rb4-c4 win in six
Rd4-c4 win in six
Kc2-d2 win in eight
Kc2-d3 win in eight
Kc2-d1 win in sixteen
Kc2-b1 draw.

May-28-10  apexin: I found it. It was way too easy for a friday puzzle.
May-28-10  ohfluckaduck: Good fighting draw! Love Nimzovitch's play.
Apr-27-11  Tigranny: Isn't 98.Kb1 a blunder because 98...Rb8 99.Rxb8 leads to stalemate?
Nov-07-11  mslr45: 88...Rb7 and its draw sortly
Nov-07-11
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  Sastre: If 88...Rb7, 89.Rd3+ Rb3 90.Rd1 still wins.
Jun-30-12  Tigranny: I once had a game in which I planned to have a crazy rook but my opponent snatched it right away allowing me to be stalemated.
Mar-11-14
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  kevin86: The Arthur Murray school of rook dancing.
Nov-19-14  Yuri Stremel: The pun should be "You check me all night long"
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