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| Dec-22-05 |
| Central Control: <malbase> Interesting, I had considered your idea but everytime we tried (In post game analysis, admitedly not very hard) White could take the pawn with check. I am very well aware that in these types of situations, if the king can get to a certain point where a check would release stalemate then the second player can deny the swindle. However if it weren't for you I probably wouldn't of ever looked at it again. Its probably the reason I don't get any better, I don't analyze key positions or my slow games! Thanks for the solution, I'll have fun showing the win to my friend. |
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Dec-23-05
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| Calli: <gypsy> Did not mean to be negative on Marco. It sounded worse than I intended. Think there were others contributed too, Minot or something like that was another. |
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Dec-24-05
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| Gypsy: <Calli> Oh I did not intend to get on your case. Just wanted to alert anyone who should one day read this that G. Marko was a kind of an 'early Tartakower'. |
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| Feb-24-06 |
| CapablancaFan: The case of the untouchable rook. |
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| Mar-31-06 |
| Bobwhoosta: Nimzo was definitely one of the chess greats (my opinion is definitely not needed on this matter!!). |
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| Nov-07-06 |
| Pakistan: Insane ,crazy & mad Rook of nimzo, ha ha ha ha very nice. |
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| Jan-13-07 |
| Fast Gun: Amazing endgame that illustrates the possibilities there are, even in the most desperate positions there can still be hope:
However had Post been on the alert he could have won this game, in spite of all of Nimzowitsch's resourcefulness and cunning. For example on move 59 instead of Kf4? he should have played the simple
59.Rd3+ Ka2 Forced!!
60.Ra7 winning the pawn on a4, because
the black king can no longer stalemated due to the check on move 59
creating an escape square, now the rook sacrifice with Rxf3+ simply fails
to Kxf3:
This was not too difficult to find without a computer,however I did use Fritz 6 at the end of the game which found a winning line that I would never have found, it comes right at the very end of the game!!
98.Rbc4!! Ra8 to defend the pawn on a5
99.Rc3+ Ka2 Forced
100.Rd2!! the subtle quite move
100. Rb8
101.Kc1+ Rb2
102.Rxb2+ Ka1
103.Ra3 Mate
This is a forced mating line with no way out!
If black does not play Ra8 on move 98
white simply plays Rxa4+ with an easy win!!
This is all rather subtle and I admit that I would never have found this line, I can only suppose that Post was
either too tired or frustrated to have
found this winning line, the dividing line between winning, drawing or even losing is very fine indeed. |
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| Jun-08-07 |
| Raginmund: hahahhahahhhahhahhahahha.....
hahahhahahahhahahahhahah, very funny... I like draws, specially when I'm in a losing position... a friend of mine says that "it's better than win"...I drew twice against the computer with rook sacrifice hahahhahahhahahhahahhahhahahahhah |
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Oct-17-07
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| Peligroso Patzer: What a fascinating endgame! And what a marvelous drawing swindle by the 18-year-old Aron Nimzovich! From moves 62 through 86, Nimzovich (Black) gives 25 consecutive Rook checks. With the sole exception of move 80, the Rook is always subject to capture during this sequence ... but if White were to do so, an immediate stalemate would result. Finally, with 87.  d7, White gets his King to a square where Nimzovich cannot continue the Rook checks, so he plays 87. ... b6, attacking one of the White Rooks (and again placing his own Rook en prise - to the attacked White Rook - but with the consequence of capture again being stalemate). White retreats his attacked Rook (88. c7), but then Nimzovich plays 88. ... b2, offering a Rook trade that would bring about a position in which White would need to sacrifice his last Rook to stop Black's passed a-pawn (because the White King had to go to the d7-square to avoid the "Crazy Rook" checks and is now too far away to help stop Black's passed pawn). White avoids that trap (by playing 89. d4), and eventually achieves a position (after 97. c2) that should be winning for him. Nimzovich sets a final trap with 97. ... c8+!!?, and White blunders with 98. b1?. (Moving either Rook to the c4-square to block the check would have been winning here.) Now Nimzovich forces the draw with 98. ... b8! After this move, Nimzovich threatens to win a Rook by capturing twice on the b4-square. If White were now to play 99. xb8, a stalemate would result. Any other Rook move along the b-file would lose the Rook and leave White a pawn down; and, of course, due to the pin, the b4-Rook cannot move off the file ... so a draw was agreed at this point. |
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| Apr-08-08 |
| supersurya: Rook says ; Take me ! Take me ! Please please i beg
opponenents king says ; no thanks |
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| May-14-08 |
| Judah: Another game where Post is almost home with the win only to fall into a stalemating trap. |
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Jul-17-08
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| jeeky1996: The black pawn was so useful...
"Pawns are the soul of chess" Phillidor. |
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Jul-17-08
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| whiteshark: <"Pawns are the soul of chess" Phillidor.> Where did you leave off last time? 1798? |
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Sep-23-08
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| Guguni: why not 89. R:b2??? White wins easily. |
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Sep-23-08
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| AgentRgent: <Guguni: why not 89. R:b2??? White wins easily.> Nope, it's a dead draw. After 89...Kxb2 the white rook cannot both prevent the pawn advance AND keep the King away from the pawn. |
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| Dec-13-08 |
| DoubleCheck: <<aginis>: what a terrible game!!! nimzovitch sacs a rook for two pawns? its definetly not sound. for example as late as 98.Rdc4! Ra8 99.Rb2!! Rc8! 100.Ra2+!! Kxa2 101.Rxc8 a3 (Ka3 Rc4 ;Ka1 Ra8 )102.Rh8 Ka1 103.Kb3 a2 104.Rh1#
earlier white could easily win the pawn by 92.Kc7 Ra8 93.Kb6 Ra5 94.Rh4 creating zugzwang> I was looking at the variation 98. Kd3
98. Kd3 Ra8
99. Rb7 Ra5 (waiting moves)
100. Rh4! (aiming for Ra1+ mate) ...Rd5+
101. Kc4! Rd2?
Now white better chances since the black rook will have be overworked to defend the pawn(if white decides to double-rook with Rbb4!) and the a-file mate threats. What you think <aginis> ? |
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| Jan-05-09 |
| WhiteRook48: hmm... nice Nimzowitsch save |
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| Jan-31-09 |
| WhiteRook48: 22 Bxg6 is puzzling |
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Apr-26-09
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| whiteshark: Post paid. |
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| Apr-26-09 |
| syracrophy: <WATCH OUT FOR THE CRAZY ROOK!>
click for larger view<WHITE TO PLAY AND WIN> No, you're not drunk. You've read correctly. I don't know what you may think but, honestly, it would be painful and a real nightmare for me to draw a <incredibly!> won position, just because I couldn't manage that crazy rook. This would be a nice story: <Once upon a time, there was a rook that...>. Now it's your turn to decide how this story will end |
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| Apr-26-09 |
| NewLine: No happy end to the story: 1. Bd3 Rxd3+ 2. Rc3 Rxc3+ 3. Ka2 Ra3+ 4. Kb1 Ra1+ 5. Kc2 Rc1+ 6. Kd3 Rc3+ 7. Ke2 Re3+ 8. Kf1 Re1+ 9. Kg2 Rg1+ 10. Kf3 Rxg3+ 11. Ke2 Re3+ 12. Kd1 Re1+ 13. Kc2 Rc1+ 14. Kb3 Rc3+ 15. Ka2 Rxc7 16. Rd8+ and mate to follow. Incredible puzzle! Who is the author? |
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| Apr-26-09 |
| syracrophy: <<NewLine>: <No happy end to the story: 1. Bd3 Rxd3+ 2. Rc3 Rxc3+ 3. Ka2 Ra3+ 4. Kb1 Ra1+ 5. Kc2 Rc1+ 6. Kd3 Rc3+ 7. Ke2 Re3+ 8. Kf1 Re1+ 9. Kg2 Rg1+ 10. Kf3 Rxg3+ 11. Ke2 Re3+ 12. Kd1 Re1+ 13. Kc2 Rc1+ 14. Kb3 Rc3+ 15. Ka2 Rxc7 16. Rd8+ and mate to follow.> 15...a3+ instead :-) |
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| Apr-26-09 |
| WhiteRook48: this is the pun again?? |
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| Apr-26-09 |
| theagenbiteofinwit: I can't believe that so few people have read the "invincible rook" chapter in My System. |
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Apr-28-09
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| kevin86: I didn't care for this game,until the extended stalemate traps came about. In the end,white can capture and stalemate or move the king away,black then wins a rook but is unable to win with his rook pawn. |
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