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Ignacy Kopa vs Alfred Ehrhardt Post
Barmen Meisterturnier B (1905), Barmen GER, rd 16, Aug-31
Scotch Game: Tartakower Variation (C45)  ·  0-1


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Mar-04-06  blingice: Ooo, that was full of subtle traps in the corner, if 82..g3?, the white king would not be able to scoot the black king from the corner, e.g. 83. Kh1 g2 (a king move trying for the h-file only gets the black king to move back and forth, which doesn't help) 84. Kg1 1/2-1/2 because it is about the become stalemate with 84..Kg3 (protecting the pawn) and any other king move loses the pawn. To the original game, if 83..g3, it is stalemate. White didn't blunder ever, he played it the best possible way, and black played it spectacularly.
Nov-08-12  firestate: Why not 81..Kh3?
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  Phony Benoni: <firestate> That would be quickest, and Black gets back to it in a few moves.

It's possible 81...Kf3 was the product of fatigue and complacency. "C'mon, this is a book win for Black, why don't you resign already?"

Nov-08-12  firestate: <Phony Benoni> I spent a good 5 minutes pondering what I'am missing. Btw, am I the only one to think that 74..Qg4 is so clever, or it is something pretty ordinary?
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  Phony Benoni: <firestate> 74...Qg4 is clever. It's not the only or even the quickest way to win, but it's the simplest.

This kind of ending can be very difficult, since Black can only win through zugzwang or somehow getting his king past the rook's line of defense. In fact, without the Black pawn the position is a draw. Note, too, that it only works because White's pawn is on g3. Move the position up a rank, and the similar move ...Qg5 doesn't work because White can hold the ♔+♙ ending.

However, I am wondering why Black didn't play 76...Qxg3+.

Nov-08-12  firestate: <Phony Benoni> Thank you, that was very informative. To answer your question, 76..Qxg3 is not possible because the queen is pinned to the king.
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  Phony Benoni: <firestate> Auggh! I noticed that earlier, then forgot about it. This extra year is killing me.
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