| Mar-29-05 | | zb2cr: Two classical masters going at it in hypermodern style. Mieses went wrong with 18 ... Nxe4, obviously. After White's 19th, if Black retreats 19 ... Nf6; 20 Rae1 then Black has the choice of 20 ... Qxe1; 21 Rxe1, Rxe1; 22 Bxf6
or 20 ... Qd8; 21 Rxe8+, Qxe8; 22 Bxf6
with White being an effective piece up in either case. If 21 ... Qh4; 22 Bxe4, fxg4 doesn't work due to 23 Re3. 23 ... fxe4; 24 Rxe4 and now 24 ... Kh7 looks like the best defense, but 25 f5 is really unpleasant for Black. Improvements, anyone? In the final position White is threatening to win the Queen by a discovered attack with check. If 24 ... fxe4; 25 Rxe4 and now Black loses
either by 25 ... Qxe4; 26 Qxe4+, Rg6; 27 Qxg6# or by 25 ... Qf7; 26 Re7+, Rg6; 27 Qxg6# (the Black Queen is pinned) or by 25 ... Rxg1; 26 Rxe7+, Rg7; 27 Rxg7+, Kh8; 28 Rg1# or 28 Qh7#. |
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| Apr-14-05 | | Karpova: <Mieses went wrong with 18 ... Nxe4, obviously.> This is wrong. Mieses position was already hopeless.
his mistakes were 15...nh5? and 16...bc3:? with the false plan to win the e-pawn. 18...ne4: was just logical (from mieses point of view). you'll probably notice that white's bb2 became so strong because of black's weakened king's side and the lack of his king's bishop. this was the reason for his later difficulties. |
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| Apr-14-05 | | zb2cr: <Karpova>,
Thanks for your comments. Bear in mind that players of all different skill levels frequent this site; what may seem blindingly obvious to you is not necessarily obvious to others. 18 ... Nxe4 is a move with an obvious negative consequence, which I pointed out. Thus my analysis is not "wrong", merely oversimplified from your point of view. Again, thanks for your inputs. |
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| Apr-14-05 | | Karpova: <zb2cr>
i never had the intention to goof on your analysis.
i just wanted to point out the instructive substance of this game lying in the fact that unnecessary weakening of the king's side often proves to be fatal even if you win a pawn.
Mieses not only traded of his best placed piece, he also lost much time and irreversibly weakened his king's side.
Rubinstein made use of this in a very instructive game. |
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| Apr-14-05 | | zb2cr: <Karpova>,
Thanks again for contributing to my education...and making this a better site. |
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| Apr-14-05 | | Karpova: <zb2cr>
Thanks for not becoming sarcastic... |
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| Apr-14-05 | | zb2cr: Always grateful to have my knowledge of the great game expandend. |
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| Apr-14-05 | | Karpova: Every expansion of knowledge is desired |
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| Jan-14-08 | | Amarande: Mieses seemed to have certain strategic imperfections that he never got over. Probably this is one of them; the mistake of exchanging the important fianchettoed KB for a mostly unimportant White Knight on the Q wing is one he's made before, viz. Capablanca vs Mieses, 1913 |
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Sep-26-08
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