|Dec-08-02|| ||pawntificator: Although the position is slightly different than in Alekhine vs Rubinstein, 1930, the result of taking the Knight is still the loss of the queen. |
|Jun-30-06|| ||perfidious: An amusing addendum to this faux pas: in A Shaw-Lees, AIC Open 1978, a similar position arose, and to my delight, David played ....Nh5. The next moves followed swiftly;11.Nxd5 cxd5 12.Bc7 and I was immensely pleased with having trapped Black's Queen.|
There was a major hole in all this, and retribution speedily ensued, for I hadn't castled, so Black instantly played 12.... Bb4+ to create a bolt-hole for the queen and I resigned, for the shortest loss of my career.
|Sep-23-08|| ||Formula7: <the result of taking the Knight is still the loss of the queen> In this game after 13.Nxd5, if Black plays ..cxd5 14.Bc7, what about 14..Nc5? This attacks the white Queen while simultaneously giving d7 to the black Queen.|
|Oct-09-08|| ||Formula7: In fact, I've calculated that after 14..Nc5, White's best move is 15.Rxc5. After that Black can play Qd7 and he's only a pawn down, thus he hasn't lost any more than he would have if he played 13..Nxf4. Ha, I just proved Wikipedia wrong!!!!!!|
|Apr-05-09|| ||igorot: Formula7 please don't say Wikipedia is wrong. First, its unethical. Second, you have no good basis of saying so coz it's you who is wrong. I'll show you.|
14. ... Nc5 15.Rxc5 Qd7 16.Rxd5 Qxc7 (forced for if 16. ... Qg4 17.h3 and the Black Knight is no more!) 17.Rxh5 and White is 2 pawns up and with the positional advantage (I particularly don't think Black can be able to withstand an attack of White pieces on the f7 square.)
|Nov-21-09|| ||Formula7: <igorot> I'm still right in the sense that Black doesn't lose his queen. Besides, how could it be "unethical" to criticize Wikipedia? Also in your line after 17.Rxh5 Black can play 17...Be6 with a good chance of regaining one of the pawns. This move also defends f7.|
|Dec-13-11|| ||Domdaniel: Wikipedia is wrong so frequently that it is unethical to say otherwise.|
On the other hand, being unethical is possibly unavoidable, there being so many ethics.
|Dec-13-11|| ||FSR: A weird factoid: the two(!) times that Rubinstein fell into his eponymous trap were both against current or future world champions.|
|Dec-13-11|| ||Domdaniel: Another strange factoid: I actually set this trap (of Nxd5 and Bc7) in a game last Saturday ... though I don't recall having seen it before. I must have got it by osmosis from chatting to stronger players.|
Unlike Akiba, my opponent saw the danger and played ...Bf8.
|Dec-13-11|| ||Domdaniel: There are, of course, many other traps involving Nxd5. You can find them in the French and Sicilian as well as most d-pawn openings.|
There's the 'loose piece on c5' type, for example: G McCarthy vs H Khonji, 2007
|Dec-13-11|| ||Penguincw: Too many pawns to worry about.|
|Aug-31-15|| ||MissScarlett: The position after 12...Nh5? occurred fifteen years earlier in Marshall vs N Whitaker, 1913 and Marshall also played 13.Nxd5. A circumstance unmentioned here: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/....|
By coincidence, Marshall was playing at Bad Kissingen (1928).
from the Chessgames Store
Spot an error? Please
submit a correction slip
and help us eliminate database mistakes!
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply.
Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous,
and 100% free--plus, it
entitles you to features otherwise unavailable.
Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should
Please observe our posting guidelines:
- No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
- No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
- No personal attacks against other members.
- Nothing in violation of United States law.
- No posting personal information of members.
See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.
NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page.
This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or
this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.|
<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)
your profile |
Premium Membership |
Kibitzer's Café |
Biographer's Bistro |
new kibitzing |
Tournament Index |
Player Directory |
World Chess Championships |
Opening Explorer |
Guess the Move |
Game Collections |
ChessBookie Game |
Chessgames Challenge |
privacy notice |
Copyright 2001-2017, Chessgames Services LLC