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Oct-27-04
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| Knight13: Only win against Lasker! Alekhine was very good at attacking the castled king! He builded well for the attacks. Everybody has seen this, but I want to say the mating net. 26... hxg6 27. Rh3+ Nh6 28. Rxh6#. Very good game by Alekhine. |
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| Apr-19-05 |
| RookFile: By the way, Lasker actually found
a new idea in the opening, which
equalized the game. We're told that
...Qb6 is the error.
I wonder why Lasker didn't swap queens
instead of ...Qb6? |
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| Aug-20-05 |
| sharpnova: because he found the idea after the game. had to seirously rack my brains to figure that one out. |
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| Aug-28-05 |
| A.Alekhine: Bet Lasker didnt see that coming.. |
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| Sep-03-05 |
| Zyqwux: Nice queen sacrifice. |
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Jan-16-06
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| micartouse: While 17 ...Qb6? is the decisive error, I think it's difficult to blame Lasker for this move. 18. Qd6! is really an odd and energetic maneuver that would be difficult to foresee. He was probably expecting something mundane such as 18. Qe2. Anyhow, I think Lasker earlier indicated he wasn't interested in an inferior queenless middlegame since he rejected Capablanca's 12 ... Qb4+. A classic example of Alekhine picking apart the kingside systematically, and surely a satisfying way to overcome one of his most difficult opponents. |
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| Jun-12-06 |
| blingice: I'm sure this has been indicated before, but 24..f6 seems to be a huge defensive mistake. Is there a better move, or was this correct? |
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| Sep-12-06 |
| mobiegobie: In the introduction to Lasker's How to Play Chess W.H. Watts quotes Richard Reti " that Lasker deliberately made moves that where unsound and which he knew where not the best moves in order that his opponent might be tempted into a faulty plan or a losing variation."(pg. 1)
Alekhine was obviously not the man to try that with.... |
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| Dec-04-06 |
| adviser: Alekhine is also one of the leading chess geniuses in history. |
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May-02-07
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| keypusher: <In the introduction to Lasker's How to Play Chess W.H. Watts quotes Richard Reti " that Lasker deliberately made moves that where unsound and which he knew where not the best moves in order that his opponent might be tempted into a faulty plan or a losing variation."> Reti's claim that Lasker deliberately made unsound moves is stupid nonsense. <Alekhine was obviously not the man to try that with....> Going into this game (played when Lasker was 65) his record against Alekhine was +3 -0 =4. He must have been doing something right. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... Lasker suffered his only losses to Alekhine, Nimzowitsch and Bogoljubov in this very tournament, come to think of it. |
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| May-10-07 |
| actionhero56: Lasker is very incompetent in this game. |
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May-10-07
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| technical draw: Lasker was 66 years old when this game was played. |
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| Nov-25-07 |
| Dr. Siggy: Two remarks about this game, Alekhine's only victory against Lasker: I. About the opening stage. - A. Alekhine, "Alexander Alekhine's Best Games", algebraic ed., London 1996, p. 103: "A very safe, but harmless move [11. Ne4], for which I had marked predilection during a certain period of my career, including the Capablanca match. Now [1937] I have come to the conclusion that the old 11. 0-0, although not extremely promising, still offers more fighting chances than the Knight move." - I not sure about this. After 11. Ne4 N5f6! 12. Nxf6+! Qxf6 13. 0-0 e5, White gets the better game with 14. d5!? (based on a Tarrasch idea for a similar position). II. About the middle game stage. - Dr. Tarrasch, "The Game of Chess", english transl., London 1935, page 165: "A Knight posted at f5(f4) is exceptionally effective for an attack on the point g7(g2). (If the opponent has castled on the Queen's side, the attack on the point b7(b2) and the Knight should be posted at c5(c4)). A Knight posted here is a permanent danger to the King; it needs only the Queen to come up - and mate at g7(g2) is threatened. If the Knight is driven back by g6(g3), then that move results in a decided loosening of the King's position." |
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Nov-25-07
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| Calli: 12...e5! was, I think, a novelty by Lasker, varying from the Capa-AA match. It is then a mystery why he had not analyzed as far as 17...Qb6? since the next 4 or 5 moves are pretty routine. Perhaps having avoided Capa's Queen exchange (12...Qb4+), he was adverse to allowing it later. |
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| Feb-27-08 |
| MichAdams: According to Euwe, after this game, Alekhine crowed that 'the Jew has had another lesson.' |
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Feb-29-08
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| chancho: If Alekhine said the above, then I don't understand why in the closing banquet of the Zurich tournament, he said: "Emanuel Lasker has been my teacher all my life. But for him I would not be what I am." Alekhine then goes on to talk about Lasker's tournament book of St Peterburg 1909 saying how he religiously read it like a cateschism and learned a great deal from it. |
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Dec-23-08
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| blacksburg: "Alekhine is a player I've never really understood. He always wanted a superior center; he manouevred his pieces toward the kingside, and around the 25th move, began to mate his opponent. He disliked exchanges, preferring to play with many pieces on the board. His play was fantastically complicated, more so than any player before or since. Alekhine once beat Lasker in about 23 moves; his pieces converged on the kingside, and the game ended with a sudden death blow." - Fischer |
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| Apr-05-09 |
| returnoftheking: <keypusher: <In the introduction to Lasker's How to Play Chess W.H. Watts quotes Richard Reti " that Lasker deliberately made moves that where unsound and which he knew where not the best moves in order that his opponent might be tempted into a faulty plan or a losing variation."> Reti's claim that Lasker deliberately made unsound moves is stupid nonsense. > What a brilliant exposé of Keypusher.
I think Reti had a point, look for example at the move f5 in Lasker vs Capablanca, 1914 Besides, it is often said by players better then even mr Keypusher himself that Lasker was a psychological player who occasionally would tempt his opponent into unsound attacks by second rate moves. |
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Apr-17-09
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| keypusher: <returnoftheking: <keypusher: <In the introduction to Lasker's How to Play Chess W.H. Watts quotes Richard Reti " that Lasker deliberately made moves that where unsound and which he knew where not the best moves in order that his opponent might be tempted into a faulty plan or a losing variation.">
Reti's claim that Lasker deliberately made unsound moves is stupid nonsense. > What a brilliant exposé of Keypusher.
I think Reti had a point, look for example at the move f5 in Lasker vs Capablanca, 1914 Besides, it is often said by players better then even mr Keypusher himself that Lasker was a psychological player who occasionally would tempt his opponent into unsound attacks by second rate moves.> And a brilliant exposé of <sitzkrieg>! Good to have you back, and pray do not descend into trollery as you did before. Fine wrote that Morphy was obsessed with women's shoes. Tarrasch seems to have thought that every popular opening or defense had either been refuted or rendered harmless at one time or another. Fischer thought that the Elders of Zion teamed up with the Bekins Moving & Storage Company to steal his property. Worse, he wrote that Lasker was a coffee-house player. So being a stronger chessplayer than keypusher does not confer immunity from stupid nonsense. I do not believe that Lasker made second-rate moves to tempt his opponents into unsound attacks, but of course such a claim cannot be proved or disproved, absent a signed confession from Lasker (which as far as I know was not forthcoming). But Reti made a much stronger claim: that Lasker deliberately made <unsound> i.e. bad moves. It is precisely that claim that is stupid nonsense. In any case, 12. f5 in the Capablanca game is a very poor choice to support the <Lasker made bad moves on purpose> theory. Here is what Kramnik said about it: <Lasker realised that the e5-square could be weakened because it was difficult to exploit. And then they started talking about his psychological approach! It had nothing to do with psychology. Lasker grasped a deep concept, which is being automatically employed now: he gave up the e5-square and "fenced in" the c8-bishop. That's why it was not a matter of psychology; Lasker had a very deep positional understanding.> And here is what Tarrasch wrote about it in 1914:
<Extraordinarily surprising and very elegant! The move prevents the further development of the knight, hems in the bishop and opens to his own the square f4 for attack. Besides, White thereby takes possession of the weak point e6. In exchange, the pawn on e4 is backward and the square e5 becomes weak, but this is of little importance.> So, both modern and ancient doyennes of "correct" play, far from considering this move some sort of psychological stroke, applaud it on positional grounds. But that isn't all. It appears that Lasker had a particular predilection for the move f4-f5, and employed it repeatedly. See Game Collection: Lasker's Secret Weapon. Makes it rather unlikely that he picked it to unsettle Capablanca, don't you think? You will have to look elsewhere for Lasker's "bad" "psychological" moves. |
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Apr-17-09
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| keypusher: You give me delusions of brilliance, <chesszarg>. Samuel Johnson wrote, <When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.> And you are a confederacy of dunces all by yourself. |
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| Apr-17-09 |
| Jim Bartle: "a confederacy of dunces"
Despite that, one of the funniest books I've ever read. |
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| Jun-08-09 |
| Fanacas: Keypusher is right about lasker btw, he didnt made unsound moves, he did hower made moves that dont for example take the inniative becous he belived that the player who stand a little better would grow arrogant and try less hard to play the game while the player who stands a little worse would work harder to win the game.
Just for example the exchange variation he played in his time in his time this was considerd unbeliavable bad yet he has great scores with it. |
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| Jul-31-09 |
| WhiteRook48: well ...Qb6 allows Qd6 |
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| Aug-26-09 |
| WhiteRook48: threat: 27 Qg7#
or 27 Qxh7+!! Kxh7 28 Rh3+ Nh6 29 Rxh6# |
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| Oct-02-09 |
| darkjuva: hollllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
sacrifice the maniac |
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