|Mar-16-05|| ||iron maiden: A tough beating for Lasker that pretty much set the tone for the first half of the tournament for the ex-champion. |
|Mar-16-05|| ||patzer2: Fine's 27. Qc8+! is a combined clearance and deflection move, setting up the followup clearance and deflection move 28. Nc6! and winning a piece after the discovered check 29. e5+.|
Instead of 28...Qc5?, Lasker could have put up more resistance with 28...Qd7!?; however, after 28...Qd7!? 29.Qxd7! Nxd7 30.Nxa5 Ne5 31.Be2 Nf6 32. f4!, White wins a queenside pawn with a clear and likely decisive advantage.
|Jun-02-06|| ||ArturoRivera: I think that Alekhines suggestion for playing 14.-...Kh7? sucks. 15.-e5+|
|Jun-02-06|| ||James Demery: Don`t mince words Arturo. What do you really think?|
|Jun-02-06|| ||borisbadenoff: <ArturoRivera: I think that Alekhines suggestion for playing 14.-...Kh7? sucks. 15.-e5+>
You're right Kh7 wins a piece for white.
15. e5+ Kg8 16. exf6
|Jun-11-06|| ||ArturoRivera: <James Demery> I think exactly what <borisbadenoff> said, after Alekhine's 14.-...Kh7? 15.-e5 wins a piece for white , perhaps Alekhine was drunk or just adding "i dont mind" comments to this game.|
|Jun-13-06|| ||Calli: "At move 14...Kh7 was sufficient to keep the balance of the position."|
This note really is in the tournament book, I checked. (p.34 in the Dover edition). Its an odd statement. Since it comes after white's 14th move, there is no need to state "At move 14". This tells me that Alyeckin likely added a note at the bottom of the page and the typist/editor placed it in the body of the text without removing the "At move 14". I also suspect that the note was hard to read and the editor got the suggested move wrong. Alyeckin surely wrote "Be7" and not Kh7.
|Jun-21-06|| ||ArturoRivera: at move 14, Kh7 stills drops a piece.|
|Oct-11-07|| ||khense: Interesting. Black's knight on H5 was in a bad place. However I didn't realize white's winning maneuver was to threaten a trade of queens on move 25 - whereby black can't hold his queenside pawns.|
|Sep-10-08|| ||whiteshark: Quote of the Day
<Young man, you play well!>
-- Em. Lasker (to Fine, after losing to him in 1936)
|Feb-20-09|| ||whiteshark: <chessgames.com>,
Is there a secret <Quote of the Day> code to decipher?
Maybe 164 days = <100+64> = 4*25 + 8*8 ? Means what? I'll work on it.
|Jul-15-09|| ||WhiteRook48: do 164 - 116|
|Sep-14-09|| ||WhiteRook48: Fine made a huge impression on everyone already in 1930|
|May-29-14|| ||plang: The only meeting between these two great players. This was Lasker's last tournament; he was 66. He finished in a tie for 6th with Flohr at +3. |
Fine:"..Lasker was then the Grand Old Man of chess. He was a serene, philosophical individual who impressed one with his calm indifference to the outcome of the battle. When he lost to me he laughed good-naturedly and and said:"Young man, you play well.""
The opening with 6 Bd3..dxc 7 Bxc4 seems illogical for White as the game quickly transposes into a Queens Gambit Accepted structure where Black has gained a tempo. Fine thought that either 10..cxd or 10..b4 would have been stronger than Lasker's 10..Bb7. Lasker may have intended 18..Nf4 and then realized that after 19 Qe3..Nxd3 20 Rc7!..Bc6 21 Rxc6..N3e5 22 Rc7 Black is much worse.(Fine's conclusion in this line is markedly different than Alekhine's) Another alternative was 18..Rfe8 19 Rxc8+..Bxc8 20 Qc2 with White better. Lasker instead played 18,,Ndf6?! preventing Rc7 but leaving the knights uncoordinated and passive. 25..Qd8 would have been a tougher defense though after 26 Qc5 White should win. 26..Qb8 27 Qc5..a4 28 Nc6 would have won a pawn.
|May-29-14|| ||perfidious: Lasker was actually 67 that year; the only reason I mention this is because at 66, he had good results, whereas one year later, his powers had clearly weakened. Scoring +3 was not terribly impressive for a strong foreign master in this event, and Lasker made 5.5 from six games against the bottom of the table, losing horribly to Reshevsky and Flohr.|
|Oct-10-14|| ||devere: <plang: Lasker may have intended 18..Nf4 and then realized that after 19 Qe3..Nxd3 20 Rc7!..Bc6 21 Rxc6..N3e5 22 Rc7 Black is much worse.(Fine's conclusion in this line is markedly different than Alekhine's) >|
It seems that Fine mistakenly has Black playing N3e5 instead of N7e5, and Alekhine's analysis is correct.
|May-29-16|| ||bernardchinshin: "ArturoRivera: at move 14, Kh7 stills drops a piece."|
After 14...Kh7 15. e5 Bxf3.
|May-29-16|| ||offramp: <bernardchinshin: "ArturoRivera: at move 14, Kh7 stills drops a piece."
After 14...Kh7 15. e5 Bxf3>
But 15.e5 is check.
|May-30-16|| ||RookFile: Why black didn't play 18...Nf4 is hard to understand. The h5 knight is a liability, and you've got a chance to get rid of it for the cannon on d3. I guess Lasker wanted to win by confusing the issue. It didn't work.|
|May-30-16|| ||Retireborn: It's interesting to compare this game with this one:-|
Fine vs A Dunkelblum, 1937
where Fine wins from a similar opening in a similar way. In both games Black plays ...b4, giving White something to work with on the Q-side.
|May-30-16|| ||perfidious: <Retireborn> Another game of interest is the QGA Alekhine vs Flohr, 1931, where Black responded to a4 with the seemingly appropriate ....b4, only to discover his opponent got all the play on the queenside.|
|May-30-16|| ||Retireborn: <perfidious> That's a good point, probably Fine was very familiar with Alekhine's games.|
Incidentally Flohr wasn't totally convinced (continued on that page.)