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| Jan-11-04 | | tud: I took 24...Na4 instead of 24...Ba4. Problem with english names. It seems to go equal after Qb2 |
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| Jan-15-04 | | Lawrence: In case anyone is still skeptical, Calli's explanation on Sept. 7th is the same as Capa himself explained after the game, as quoted in V.N.Panov's "Capablanca," and Junior 8 gives Calli a pat on the back for those lines he gave us on Sept. 9th. Capa said he wins the exchange and then a pawn and after that it is an easily won endgame. |
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| Jan-16-04 | | Calli: <Lawrence> Panov? Vy panimatye pa Russki? I am impressed! Wish I knew Russian well enough to read some of the chess books. I promised to post the story. Capablanca says that after this game all the masters were analysing what went wrong. They assumed Black went wrong after he won the exchange. Em Lasker, then 68 years old, walked in and immediately saw that winning the exchange was the mistake. It was Capablanca who made the combination and not Alekhine! Afterward, Lasker told Capablanca "You must have been pleased when he took your bait!" IIRC, the story is in Primer of Chess. Capablanca purposely leaves out the name of Alekhine from the story. His description of the game, however, leaves no doubt which of his Nottingham games that he is talking about. In light of Alekhine's anti-semitic remark toward Lasker at Zurich in 1934, the story has another level of meaning to it. I can quite imagine Capa and Lasker having a chuckle and a toast or two in private. |
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| Jan-16-04 | | square dance: <calli> what was the anti-semetic remark that alekhine made towards lasker? |
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| Jan-16-04 | | Lawrence: Calli, what did Alekhine say to Lasker in 1934? I've never read about it. In these 3 pages of postings many references have been made to what a Nazi swine A. was but I've always thought it was terribly overblown. I've read those articles he wrote during the war and they were such a weak load of horsefeathers that I can't imagine A. himself really took them seriously. They say he churned them out to protect his wife, who was in danger of being deported either because she was Jewish or because she was Russian. Tell me if I'm wrong, it's a long time since I read them, but he doesn't actually criticize the Jews, simply advances the preposterously invalid theory that "Jewish chess is defensive, Aryan chess is offensive." I did study one course of Russian donkey's years ago but my "Panov" is in Spanish. btw in the first line you gave on Sept. 9th, Junior wants to go zugzwanging among the edelweiss (i.e. play Bb2) on move 44 already yet, not move 46. |
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| Jan-16-04 | | Calli: Ah, okay in Spanish. Its hard to know what was published where. The only chess books I can semi-read are in german. Even Spanish notation confuses me. I don't want to start another thread on AA. You can read the Alekhine page starting about page 7 or 8. I posted links to an Euwe interview about the remark. Basically, Euwe says that all the players already knew of his anti-semitism before the war. Also, there is a link to a translation of an Alekhine newspaper interview in which he admits authorship of the articles. |
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| Aug-12-04 | | who: I must be missing something, but what's wrong with 27...Na4 followed by 28...b6 29...Nb7 |
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| Aug-12-04 | | Calli: After 27...Na4 28.Ng5! - threatens Bc6. Eventually white gets another pawn for the exchange. Theoretically an equal game, but actually very little winning chances for Black. Alekhine thought the game continuation was winning, but it was really a trap. |
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| Aug-12-04 | | who: 27...Na4 28.Ng5 h6 29.Nh3 Qd7 and the bishop is pinned (the knight is under attack) plus c6 is defended by the black knight |
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| Aug-12-04 | | Calli: <who> what where? :-) c6 is defended by a knight? Anyway, White can get an attack after h6. Something along the lines of 27...Na4 28.Ng5 h6 29.Bd5+ Kh8 30.Ne6 Rg8 31.f5 Qd7 32.Nd4 Bxd4 33.Bxd4 Again, fighting for a draw was not what Alekhine was looking for. |
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| Aug-17-04 | | who: <Calli> I don't understand. Right now (move 27) Alekhine is up material. If Capablanca cannot win it back, then Alekhine should have a won endgame. |
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| Aug-17-04 | | who: Btw in my first post I meant 27...Na4 28...c5 and then the knight can come out to c5 or b6 |
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| Aug-17-04 | | WMD: <what was the anti-semetic remark that alekhine made towards lasker?> According to Euwe, 'After he beat Lasker at Zurich he said something like "the Jew has had another lesson!"' |
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| Aug-17-04 | | Calli: <TheWHOstillrule> White has more than enough compensation for the exchange in the line I gave. Black would be lucky to escape with a draw. Try to play the position against a strong opponent or computer program and you will see. |
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| Sep-03-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: Talk about a queens gambit fest Capa and Alekhine were having! I admire Alekhine for playing the dutch in this game. |
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| Nov-11-04 | | alexandrovm: Capablanca has a plus score against Alexander in this database |
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| Nov-11-04 | | Hidden Skillz: <alex> lol he always had |
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| Nov-11-04 | | WMD: Their tournament and match record is tied at 7-7. The two games in 1913, both won by Capa, were exhibition games. |
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Nov-24-04
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| Nov-25-04 | | TheKnightOfLight: WMD, have you studied all their games? Because Capablanca has a much better record overall. Moreover, it is the general view of the long-suffering chess-loving people that Capa played a much more beautiful game than Alekhine. |
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| Nov-29-04 | | Hidden Skillz: <knightoflight>i disagree..imo capa played with simplicity n straight forward moves..while alekhine looked at times for complexity and was more of a fun player to watch.. |
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| Feb-14-05 | | OJC: Alekhine's notes to this game include the very interesting/funny commentary after move 6. <"This move, in conjunction with the next one, is one of my inventions ... I should think that this system of defence deserves to bear the name of the inventor, and not be (like my idea B-B1 in conjunction with Kt-Q2 in the Lopez, baptized by Master Kmoch for reasons unknown, the "Kecskemet" variation) called the "Dresden", "Polebrady", or "Nottingham" variation." > You can literally feel Alekhine's intensity when reading some of his notes; something like reading Fischer's notes in My 60 Memorable Games. |
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| Feb-15-05 | | waddayaplay: After white's or black's move 6? |
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| Feb-15-05 | | OJC: After black's move. |
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Feb-15-05
| | offramp: So what is the variation now called? |
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sac: 26.Qd2