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Robert James Fischer vs James T Sherwin
"Sherwin's Forced" (game of the day Mar-09-10)
US Championship 1957/58 (1957)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation (B90)  ·  1-0
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Jul-03-04  smokeonthewater: oh, i see now. rxf1 is discovered check from bd5
Jul-03-04  sneaky pete: <smokeonthewater> 31... Rxf1+ 32.Rxf1+ (discovered) and wins. Smokeinyoureyes?
Sep-03-04  wall: Since 30.Rxf7! wins, perhaps 29...Rxc3 is a poison pawn. Can Black improve with 29...Ne3 or 29...Qh4 instead?

And after 30.Rxf7, then 30...Rc1+ loses and perhaps 30...h5 wins. The other moves lose, such as 30...Rxf7 31.Ra8+ and 30...Rcc8 31.Ra8! and 30...Qxd5 31.Rxf8+ Kxf8 32.Qf1+ Qf7 33.Ra8+ Ke7 34.Ra7+, winning the Queen.

Jan-12-05  lucifershammer: Rookie question - why not 9. ... Nxe4 ?
Jan-12-05
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  Sneaky: <Lucifershammer> I don't see anything immediately crushing in response to 9...Nxe4, but on general principles, when you only have one piece developed, it's probably not a hot idea to move that one piece again to snatch a pawn. Consider if White responded with Re1 and/or Qf3, the pressure that starts to mount against Black's position, combined with all the pins, looks very frightening.
Jan-12-05
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  Sneaky: By the way, there is footage somewhere out there of a teenage Fischer giving a lecture to a bunch of stodgy old chess players. This game is on a demonstration board. When young Bobby moves 31.Qf1!! the shocked people in the audience burst into applaud.
Jan-12-05  Minor Piece Activity: It's met with Re1 with a strong attack. For example, 9. Nb1!? Nxe4 10. Re1 d5 11. Qh5. (10...Nf6? 11. Bg5 Be7 12. Qf3 d5 13. Bxf6 is good for white.) I prefer black like you though. Fischer's novelty here was the interesting 9. Nb1!? instead of the customary 9. Na4. Now the knight can be rerouted to d2, but white loses tempo.
Feb-13-05  Backward Development: sneaky:
very nice videos! my favorite is the polgar-korchnoi video, even though it took painfully long to load. Polgar-"I was afraid to lose the respect..."
Korchnoi-"IT WAS THE VERY FIRST AND THE VERY LAST GAME YOU'LL EVER WIN AGAINST ME...IN YOUR LIFE."
Feb-16-05  offramp: To be fair to Viktor, he does say just before that, "You won it and you won it well..."
Feb-16-05  offramp: <lucifershammer: Rookie question - why not 9. ... Nxe4 ?> I have had a look in some large databases but I can find no instance of black playing that move - and I can't see anything wrong with it. Here is a sample line:

9...Nxe4 10.Nd2 Nc5 11.Re1 Be7 12.Qf3 Bb7 13.Qg3 0-0 14.Nc4 d5 15.Ne5 Ne4 16.Rxe4 dxe4 17.Bh6 Bf6 18.Nxe6 Qd6 19.Bxg7 Qxe5 20.Bxf6+ Qxg3 21.fxg3 Nd7 22.Nxf8 Nxf6 23.Rf1 Rxf8 24.Rxf6±

Mar-08-05
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  Hesam7: <chessgames.com> I hope this week is Fischer's week. So far all game of days are Fischer's victories. I suggest you pick his last game with Spassky in 1972 as the game of day for Wednesday (which is his birth day)!
Mar-08-05  hkannan2000: The score sheet is messed up a bit. Black could play 13...c*b2! here.
Mar-08-05  soberknight: Two comments on the opening: (1) 9 Nb1 is a very strange move, probably worse than Ne2. From e2, the knight can still support c2-c3. Perhaps black should have answered 12 c3 with ...a5 to keep a pawn (albeit an isolated pawn) on b4.

(2) 13 Nxc6: Fischer could have waited until later to exchange the knight, but he obviously wanted to set a trap: 13...cxb2?? (appears to win material) 14 Nxd8 bxa1Q 15 Bd4! Qxd4 16 Qxd4 Rxd8. If I counted correctly, White winds up with a queen for a black rook, bishop, and pawn, with better space and development.

Mar-08-05  soberknight: BTW, I don't get the pun. Maybe "Sure win's forced"?
Mar-08-05
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: What amazes me is that 32.Rxf8++ doesn't work! A double check that wins a Rook doesn't work!
Mar-08-05  eyalbd: <An Englishman> Simple, "Threat is stronger than it's execution". Once more.

After Rxf8 the King escapes and white must lose its Queen.

Qxc1 takes a Rook and creates a double threat - Both Rxf8 and Qxg5

Mar-08-05  JohnTal: A bad moment for the birthday boy. One more reason for him to cool his heels. Sad life ending from a great life opening as a prodigy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7117276...

Mar-08-05  euripides: <sober> the move usually played in this position is 9 Na4. I think that after 9 Ne2 Black could take the e4 pawn because White's queen is blocked from f3 and g4. In the game, after 9...Nxe4 10 Qf3 Bb7 11 Ba4+ looks strong. However, I'm not sure how White would deal with 10...d5, and I wonder if Black should have taken the pawn.
Mar-08-05  soberknight: <euripides> Good point. I didn't even notice that Black could have taken on e4.
Mar-08-05
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  JohnBoy: <JohnTal> - from your link: "In the latest twist in the case, a Japanese newspaper reported Sunday that Fischer might be indicted by U.S. authorities for tax evasion, after which the U.S. government might ask for him to be handed over by Japan."

How does one squeeze blood from a turnip?

Mar-08-05
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  Shams: <JohnBoy> it`s a bit of a nasty scenario, and it could very well happen. Japan may feel they owe the USA one. I`m speaking about Charles Jenkins -- a huge story over here (Japan) but I don`t know how much coverage it got back in the States...he went AWOL decades ago and defected to North Korea. Now he has a Japanese wife and family. After negotiations he turned himself in to the American authorities, where he received a VERY low sentence-- only one month in the brig. It seems obvious that Japan worked hard on his behalf. It is possible this could work against Fischer, who is also married to a Japanese woman (if it ever went through) but whom nobody cares about over here. We`ll see.
Mar-08-05  DCP23: Instead of 34.h3 Fischer should have played 34.Bg8+ -- it's a forced mate in 9. (Courtesy of Fritz)

34. ... Kg6 (Kh8 is a mate in 4) 35. Bf7+ Kh7 (Kf6 is a mate in 4) 36. Rh8+! Kxh8 37. Qc8+ and so on.

Mar-08-05
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  kevin86: Twice Fischer sac-ed his queen,but Black dare not take it-a bit of chess irony:white ended up two rooks and a bishop ahead!

SHERWIN FORCED-is a bit of a stretch from Robin Hood's home,Sherwood Forest.

Mar-08-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: A really good book to read for gaining
insights is 'Bobby Fischer goes to war'
by David Edmonds, and John Eidinow.
They also wrote 'Wittgenstein's poker'
Mar-08-05  Zaius: I think the pun is related to "Sherwood Forest" from the Robin Hood story.
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