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|Jul-11-05|| ||calman543: <Nausikaa>, Fischer's own book says that he would have resigned if white had played 37. Re8.|
|Jul-23-05|| ||calman543: I took over white's position at move 37 and played Re8 against GNU Chess and won easily.|
|Jul-23-05|| ||calman543: After Walther's goof on move 37, Fischer's strategy was to trade his Bishop for the white queen side pawns, then trade rooks, leaving white with a wrong squared bishop for queening the h-pawn.|
|Oct-17-05|| ||Hesam7: This ending appears in "Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual". According to him, 54. b4! wins for white, this is the line:|
54. b4! Kc7 55. Ka5! Kb8 (55...Bg3 56. b5 Bf2 57. Ka6 with the idea of a4-a5) 56. b5 (black hasn't time to prevent b5-b6) 56...Ba3!? 57. b6 Kc8 58. Ka6 Kb8 59. Be4 (zugzwang) Kc8 (59...Bc5 60. a4) 60. Ka7 Bc5 61. a4
|May-18-06|| ||Warehouse Duffer: In either 1985 or 1986, Pal Benko examines this ending in his monthly column in Chess Life.|
|May-18-06|| ||RookFile: Well, it's nice that Dvoretsky and Benko weighed in on this as well. Of course, Fischer's classic work, My 60 Memorable Games, goes over this too.|
|Dec-12-07|| ||Professeur Y: In My 60 memorable games, Fisher gives a different score, which diverts from this one on move 58. Instead of 58.Kb3 Be1, etc., it goes 58.b5 Bf2 59.Be2 Be3 60.Kb3 Bd2 61.b6+ Kb7 62.Ka4 Kc6 63.Bb5+ Kc5 [½–½]. It reaches the same position, or just about, but in a different order. Does anyone have an explanation for this? Are there other sources for this game? The one given in the database that comes with Fritz 10 agrees with Chessgames; could it be that Fischer made up these last few moves?|
|Feb-12-08|| ||DAL9000: Wait, so how does 31. Rg3 not win for White? What I'm looking at is:|
31. Rg3 Bf8 32. Qf6!, (32... Be7 33. Qxh8 Rxh8 34. Rg8+). Am I missing something here?
|Mar-17-09|| ||Some call me Tim: Allowing Black to take the f7 pawn was ridiculously bad. Fischer called his draw a major swindle. I would call it a series of tragic blunders by the ill-fated Walther.|
|Mar-18-09|| ||AnalyzeThis: Yes, Fischer said he would have resigned on the spot after 37. Re8, creating zugzwang in a few moves.|
|Mar-18-09|| ||Joshka: Bobby provides the "three" missing moves in his notes from 2007. 57. Kc4 Bg3 "The next three moves were inexplicably missing from 'My 60 memorable Games'." 58. Kb3 Be1 59. Ka4 Bd2|
60. Bh5 Be1 61. b5 Bf2 62. Be2 Be3 (62. b6+ is met by Bb6! draw.) 63. Kb3 Bd2 64. b6+ Kb7 65. Ka4 Kc6 66. Bb5+ Kc5 67. Be8 Be1 Drawn So with move 67 also missing, we have four missing moves instead of three.
|Mar-18-09|| ||blacksburg: <Ed Trice> provides the "three" missing moves in his notes from 2007. 57. Kc4 Bg3...|
|Mar-18-09|| ||Joshka: <Hesam7> <This ending appears in "Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual"> Fischer seems to think the Swiss endgame composer, Fontana, found the proper way to win, and gives a different line. Maybe there are different ways to win.|
|Mar-18-09|| ||blacksburg: <Hesam7> <This ending appears in "Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual"> <Ed Trice> seems to think the Swiss endgame composer, Fontana, found the proper way to win, and gives a different line. Maybe there are different ways to win.|
|Oct-23-09|| ||plang: Nunn after 12 Rhe1: " Fischer pointed out that 12..b4 followed by ..Bb7 is fine for Black. If Black can play ..b4 without triggering a crushing Nd5 sacrifice then he should almost always do so because the knight will be less active on e2 or a4." Fischer was also critical of 13..Rc8 giving up the option of queenside castling recommending 13..b4 instead. 15..b4 still would have been playable after 16 N3e2..Na5 with decent play. After 16 f5! and 17 f6! Black was in serious trouble.|
<DAL9000: Wait, so how does 31. Rg3 not win for White? What I'm looking at is:
31. Rg3 Bf8 32. Qf6!, (32... Be7 33. Qxh8 Rxh8 34. Rg8+). Am I missing something here?>
After 34..Kh7 35 Rxh8..Qf3 things look messy.
|Jul-25-10|| ||tentsewang: Now this is an example of an opposite color bishop dual and how Fischer manage to get a draw regardless of white's extra pawns. The B8 square is dark, which Fischer can utilize and any other move should give a draw. !!|
|Apr-06-11|| ||hellopolgar: if you put this game into an engine, you can see that 37. Ra8 maintains the advantage. but from a human point of view 37. Re8 would probably made Fischer resign on the spot because there is nothing more black can do, the position is simply hopeless, white will set up Be4 followed by h3, which <completely> cripples black. i just won it against Houdini without taking any moves back (ok maybe 1 because i made a stupid mistake at one point).|
|Aug-29-12|| ||TheFocus: This is game 9 in Fischer's <My 60 Memorable Games>.|
|Mar-06-14|| ||whiteshark: <The Swiss endgame composer Fontana ...>
Is it Luigi Fontana ?|
|May-09-15|| ||Tabanus: Picture from this game: http://sah.hr/forum/index.php?actio...|
|May-09-15|| ||Howard: The guy in the background looking at this game, looks strangely familiar.|
|May-09-15|| ||OhioChessFan: 39. Bg6 and White is still easily winning. Why in the world give up the advanced Pawn?
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|May-09-15|| ||MindCtrol9: This game was easily won by White with just a little technic.|
|Mar-21-16|| ||cwcarlson: On page 67 of MSMG (1969 edition) he gives 54.b4 Kc7 55.Ka5
Kb8 56.b5 Ba3 57.b6 Kc8 58.Ka6 Kb8 59.Bg2, and if 59...Kc8 (or 59...Bc5 60.a4) 60.Ka7 Bd4 61.a4, but 60...Bd4 is illegal!|
|Feb-23-17|| ||mcgee: >>DAL9000: Wait, so how does 31. Rg3 not win for White? What I'm looking at is:31. Rg3 Bf8 32. Qf6!, (32... Be7 33. Qxh8 Rxh8 34. Rg8+). Am I missing something here?<<|
Look like 31. Rg3 or indeed 32. Rg3 does win on the spot, but after 31..Bf8 the correct continuation is the simple 32.Rg8 and Black can resign. After 31..Bf8 32. Qf6 Be7 33. Qxh8 (33.Qe6 retains a big advantage) Rxh8 34. Rg8+ Kc7! 35.Rf1 (35.Rxh8? Qf3!) Qa8! Black is hanging on in there.
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