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|Mar-20-10|| ||PeterB: Both Paul Keres and Fischer seemed to be able to beat Benko rather easily in those days. But we musn't forget that Benko, despite this game and others, was no slouch - he had a very strong positional sense and developed anti-King's Indian and the Benko Gambit systems!|
|Mar-20-10|| ||Eisenheim: <PeterB> - it is a en erie strange coincidence that Benko developed the Benko Gambit - what are the odds? This game here was brilliance by BF from start to finish|
|Mar-20-10|| ||black.pr0jekt: Nf6=fail play e6 instead|
|Mar-20-10|| ||ounos: <xrt999: I am blown away by all the posts from "serious" players who are analyzing how/why they got or didnt get the "puzzle" which consists of 18.Qh6, Fischer vs Benko Bled 1959, one of the most well-known>
Ouch. "Most well-known"? Next time, pleeease use "best-known".|
|Mar-20-10|| ||sfm: <ounos: [xrt999... one of the most well-known] Ouch. "Most well-known"? Next time, pleeease use "best-known".>
Objection. Such attacks are way below the belt. :-(|
|Mar-20-10|| ||kevin86: Recently,the tripled pawns were on the winning side. Today,they only show the exposed nature f the king-and thus,are a liability.White will win easily,buing up a queen for a rook-and two isolated pawns.|
|Mar-20-10|| ||ajile: <sfm: <ounos: [xrt999... one of the most well-known] Ouch. "Most well-known"? Next time, pleeease use "best-known".> Objection. Such attacks are way below the belt. :-(>|
This is a well known grammatical error.
|Mar-20-10|| ||WhiteRook48: ouch, that was crushing|
|Mar-20-10|| ||RandomVisitor: After 12.f4:
click for larger view
Rybka 3: <d=19>
<[-0.07] 12...b6> 13.Qd3
[+0.00] 12...b5 13.Ng3 Nxb3
[+0.07] 12...h6 13.Bh4 Nc6
|Jun-13-10|| ||elohah: In 60MG, after the alternative 16...Qc7, Bobby commences a long line beginning with 17 Nh5!
Yet 17 Qh5! also seems to win, very similar to the game.|
Also in his note after Black's 17th, in c] 17...Kg7, just 18 Rf3!, Bobby, wins.
Yes, this is an outstanding tactical display by Fischer. Just thought I'd pop in a couple of curlicues here.
|Jul-28-10|| ||tentsewang: Opps!! Getting KO'd by a 13 year old US Champ is really great to see at motion.|
|Jul-28-10|| ||Petrosianic: Fischer was actually 16 when this game was played, and 14 when he first won the title. Normally I wouldn't nitpick... (Okay, I would, so sue me), but I've seen this "13-year old champ" line repeated a couple of times this morning, so we might as well get it right.|
The idea that Benko was prejudiced against Fischer's age when he lost the game is purely speculative, of course. They'd already met in one US Championship and an interzonal, so Benko should have had no illusions about Fischer's skill.
|Aug-29-12|| ||TheFocus: This is game 11 in Fischer's <My 60 Memorable Games>.|
|Nov-22-12|| ||plang: <PeterB: Both Paul Keres and Fischer seemed to be able to beat Benko rather easily in those days. >|
Between 1958 and 1962 Fischer's record against Benko was 5-3 - hardly a mis-match.
|Nov-24-12|| ||plang: 6..Qb6, the Benko Variation, has scored well for Black since its introduction in the late 50s. Fischer's 7 Nde2 is occasionally played as are 7 Nxc6 and 7 Ndb5 but 7 Nb3 is the main line.|
|Nov-25-12|| ||perfidious: This particular Benko invention has the virtue of bypassing the reams of theory needed to face the Velimirovic Attack and gives the game a more positional turn. As John Nunn noted long ago, play will usually proceed in a fashion analogous to the Scheveningen.|
|Nov-25-12|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: On <perfidious>s point, here is a game which the great Yermo used to illustrate attacking themes in the Sicilian in his wonderful book "The Road to Chess Improvement"Note too Karpov-Kasparov, game 24, World Chp. Match 1985!
Igor Ivanov vs Yermolinsky, 1994
I am certain though Benko was just worried about the Sozin, the real Sicilian killer Fischer excelled with until Geller's excellent suggestion for the 1972 match made Fischer switch to the Richter-Rauzer for the remaining games.
|Jan-03-13|| ||qqdos: Have a look at this entertaining analysis by <kingcrusher>! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf9W... He discovered something new.|
|Jul-20-13|| ||talwnbe4: Now here is a tactical shot that my computer engine has trouble with... Fruit 2.2.1 misses 17. Qh5 ! after 10 minutes of analysing and I'm running a fast computer (Core 2 duo). As for my own brain, I have no comprehension of this position after Qh5, although it just looks strong.|
|Jul-20-13|| ||Nerwal: <Fruit 2.2.1 misses 17. Qh5 ! after 10 minutes of analysing and I'm running a fast computer (Core 2 duo)>|
This looks like a good test for engines. On this computer Houdini 1.5 assesses 17. ♕h5 as winning after 1:05, Stockfish 3 after 3:50, Rybka 2.2 after slightly more than 4 minutes, and Firebird 1.0 in 50 seconds.
|Jul-20-13|| ||JointheArmy: <This looks like a good test for engines.>|
Funny because 17. Qh5! is the most intuitive move for a human in that position.
|Jul-20-13|| ||Nerwal: <Funny because 17. Qh5! is the most intuitive move for a human in that position.>|
Well, the move that causes them to struggle is 17. ♕h5 exf4 18. ♘f5!! which isn't exactly intuitive. Without this ressource 17. ♕h5 is flat out bad and the other natural move, 17. ♕g4+, is to be prefered.
|Jan-09-16|| ||Joker2048: Fischer is the lord of the board!!!
|Sep-17-16|| ||andrea volponi: 16...Dc7-Ch5 Rh8! |
|Nov-04-16|| ||andrea volponi: 15...bxc3-Ce4 Db4-Dg4 Axf6-Cf6+ Rh8-Tf3! |
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