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Rene Letelier Martner vs Robert James Fischer
"A Queen for the King" (game of the day Jul-29-05)
Liepzig Olympiad Prelim 1960  ·  King's Indian Defense: Normal Variation (E70)  ·  0-1


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Sep-19-05   Eggman: <<Algebraic square a8 is labelled "1" on it, b8 is "2," and so on ...>>

This numeric system where every square is simply given a number is, if I'm not mistaken, actually used in checkers / draughts.

Nov-17-05   JGreene82884: I do not understand why Kxf4 is not considered, am I unable to see a trap?
Nov-17-05
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  Honza Cervenka: <JGreene82884> 24.Kxf4 Bh6#.
Apr-17-06
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  Necessary Truths: <Eggman> Checkers uses a similar system, but they are not identical. In checkers, only the squares that can have a piece on them are numbered (32 squares instead of 64).
Jul-13-06
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  notyetagm: What great tactical alertness Fischer had.

Here Fischer saw that after 21 ... Rxe3! 22 Rxe3 Rxe3 23 Kxe3 Qxf4+!! 24 Kxf4, the White f4-king is safe only on the dark-squared complex e3-f4-g5 and so 24 ... Bh6# is mate!

And what a lovely mate it is:


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Jul-13-06
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  notyetagm: Notice the critical role played by the <SELF-BLOCKING> White f3-bishop and g3-knight in the above mate.

Black has absolutely no control over these two potential flight squares for the White f4-king. But Black does not -need- to control these squares because they are <SELF-BLOCKED> by other White pieces and cannot therefore be used as flight squares by the White king.

Jul-13-06   RookFile: Fischer made a little joke and called this game a 'help-mate problem'.
Jul-13-06
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  Joshka: yes this was a very clever mate, but Bobby would have been hard pressed to win this game if his opponent had been better tactically i think, what about 11. Nd6!?
Jul-13-06   RookFile: Hi Joshka: I took a quick look at this, and think Fischer was ready for 11. Nd6 too. 11.....Nxd6 12. exd6 Bxb2 and the rook has nowhere to go. Then I fed this into Fritz, and it likes 11... Nxd6 12. exd6 Bxb2 but prefers the gonzo line involving 12.... Re8! 13. Kf2 Rxe3!!
Dec-13-06   joelsontang: how should black react? if white plays 6.Bf4 followed by Nf3? would white still keep an edge?
Jul-08-07   TaxiDriver: Bobby Master of The KID!
Jul-16-07
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  kingscrusher: I have done an instructive multimedia youtube video on this game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps-L...

Please let me know if you like it and want some more game videos.

Jul-18-07   object16: <kingscrusher> I like it! I'd like to see more games on u-tube. Thanks.
Jan-16-08   D4n: The only two forms of notation I know of are the Algebraic system and the other with one, I do not know the name but as an example the Knf3. What other forms of notation is there?
Jan-16-08   Petrosianic: <The only two forms of notation I know of are the Algebraic system and the other with one, I do not know the name but as an example the Knf3.>

That's not The Other One, that's Algebraic.

<What other forms of notation is there?>

Well, there are at least 4 major ones, and probably lots more smaller ones.

First, there's the two you know: Algebraic and The Other One.

Then there's Correspondence Notation, which is like Algebraic, except that the files have numbers instead of letters. You don't refer to the pieces at all, just the Departure Square, and Arrival Square.

Hence, the Ruy Lopez would be 1. 5254 5755 2. 7163 2836 3. 5125

It has the advantage of being completely international.

And the 4th one would be Uedeman Code, which nobody uses any more, which was mainly for transmitting by telegraph and the like. Every square has a two letter code, and, like Correspondence Notation, you note the departure square and arrival square.

But the square names are pretty much completely random, and nobody would remember them without looking at a chart. I don't have a chart handy, but I seem to recollect that the move Knight from b1 to d2 would be written as CAFE (and I only remember that because it was one of the few times that a move actually spelled a real word).

Sounds pretty antiquated, but there was a chart for it in the USCF Rulebooks not too long ago.

Jan-16-08   ughaibu: Your numerical correspondence notation isn't completely international, Japanese use kanji numerals for the ranks and arabic numerals for the files.
Jan-16-08   Petrosianic: Yeah, that's true. It's language proof, but not alphabet proof.
Mar-27-08   D.Observer: A good puzzle for tomorrow might be 23. ... ?
Jun-02-08   Morphyisgod: Seems like white shoudlent resign here, can't white not take the Queen? i dont see an immediate path to mate and he is up an exchange.
Jun-20-08   satch boogie: <Morphyisgod> the immediate path to mate is 24. Kxf4 Bh6#
Jul-25-08   Morphyisgod: I mean if white declines the queen, via 24.Kf2
Nov-21-08   chichess: <Morphyisgod> Kf2 followed by Ng4+, and the bishop is pinned...then what? Pick a line and it promptly leads to mate for black...
Jan-08-09   et 9: descriptive
Apr-04-09   WhiteRook48: what do they call this, a helpmate?
Apr-28-09   ars851112: fischer the genius
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