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|Nov-14-07|| ||Samagonka: Got all the moves right within a minute. Maybe I've seen the game before or played something similar. No big deal, it's not a Sunday after all!|
|Nov-14-07|| ||RandomVisitor: After 18.dxe5:
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Black might try 18...Bxg2 19.Kxg2 dxe5 with a somewhat easier game, although white still has a small advantage.
1. (0.16): 20.Bc5 c6 21.Bxf8 Kxf8 22.Rd1 cxd5 23.Qxd5 Qxd5+ 24.Rxd5 Ke8 25.Nc3 Nc6 26.Rb1 N8e7 27.Rd3 Nf5 28.Ne4 Rc7 29.c5 Ncd4 30.Rbd1 Kf7 31.g4
2. (0.09): 20.Rd1 Qg4 21.Bc5 Nd6 22.Bxd6 Qf3+ 23.Kg1 cxd6 24.Nec3 Ne6 25.Qe3 Qh5 26.f4 Qg4 27.Qe2 Qxe2 28.Nxe2 exf4 29.Nexf4 Nxf4 30.Rxf4 Rxf4 31.Nxf4 Rc8 32.Rxd6 Rxc4 33.Rd8+ Bf8 34.Ne6 Rc1+ 35.Kf2 Rc2+
|Nov-14-07|| ||zb2cr: Saw the game continuation, after about 45 seconds of thought. One alternative I considered was for Black to bite the bullet right away with 27. ... Rxe5; 28. fxe5, Rxf1+; 29. Rxf1. However, Black's Queen is now loose and the Black QP is pinned, so Black just about has to play 29. ... Ne8. Then White can play 30. Qxh6, threatening Rf8#, and Black is in a world of hurt.|
|Nov-14-07|| ||znprdx: 27. Ne5 was a nice move to find indeed, but what if Qd8 28. Nx[R]f7 Kx[N]f7 Where's the beef? Since when is being an exchange up a guaranteed win? After all who are these "No Name" players anyway - he-he - anything could happen with Black having two knights to one. I think playing to time control might have been warranted.|
|Nov-14-07|| ||micartouse: The full solution popped out at me very quickly. Gotta be my fastest Wednesday ever. :)|
|Nov-14-07|| ||SickedChess: missed it! :(|
|Nov-14-07|| ||Livingston: Is there a way you can use Fritz to set up these positions without having to manualy play through the game? Something where you can set the pieces up any way you like?|
|Nov-14-07|| ||micartouse: <Livingston> Yes, on my version (7 I think) you can hit the letter "s" and it goes into the setup menu. Or go to the help menu if you need more assistance.|
|Nov-14-07|| ||Murphyman: Got it - took a minute or to to see that Ne5 fork but when I saw it I thought it looked very troublesome for black.|
Sure enough Black's defences collapse with Ne5.
My solution was based on Nxf6+ Rxf6 and Qxd7.
|Nov-14-07|| ||Kings Indian: Very cool. Took me about a minute to see what order to play everything in.|
|Nov-14-07|| ||Livingston: Awesome! *Gives micartouse a cookie.* ^_^|
|Nov-14-07|| ||Alphastar: White to play, medium/easy. We obviously have the better position: more space, better piece coordination.
Black's heavy pieces are very unfortunately placed here. The first thing popping up in my mind here is|
Forking queen and rook, so black either loses the exchange or takes it. But even then he seems to lose easily:
1. ..dxe5 2. Qxd7 Rxd7 3. Nf6+ and 4. Nxd7 also wins us the exchange.
Time to check.
I agree that 28. Nf6+! would be better than 28. Qxd7. It's all about the move order. However, in both cases black's position is completely hopeless. Therefore I think both variations are good solutions.
|Nov-14-07|| ||kevin86: Funny,I was looking for a fork of the king and queen at f6,but the rook stops that. The irony is that the same rook is swept up in the same fork after the queens are exchanged. The queen exchange is deftly set up by a knight sacrifice that opens the door between the queens.|
A nice sequence A to B to C.
|Nov-14-07|| ||syracrophy: A funny ending|
|Nov-14-07|| ||zb2cr: <znprdx>,
Davies is now a GM, hardly a "no-name". I realize you're referring back to yesterday's puzzle, but I'd suggest you let it go.
|Nov-14-07|| ||Duque Roquero: This is an excellent Wednesday puzzle.
Just as <Manic> I considered 28. Nf6+; didn't see the move actually played by Davies.
|Nov-14-07|| ||TheaN: 3/3
27.Ne5! launches a volley of Knight forks which will break Black up.
27....dxe5 seems a mistake, but going anywhere with the Queen only creates a path of suffering for Black after 28.Nxf7.
27....dxe5 28.Nf6+! Rxf6 29.Qxd7 1-0.
|Nov-14-07|| ||playground player: Ne5, eh? I rejected that move. I must be an idiot.|
|Nov-14-07|| ||patzer2: For today's puzzle solution, 27. Ne5! is a Knight Fork which initiates a deflection to set up a second and decisive follow-up Knight fork with 29. Nf6+ .|
At the end of the combination, White is the exchange-up with active pieces and no weaknesses for an easy win.
|Nov-14-07|| ||ongyj: <playground player> No you're not an idiot. If missing 27.Ne5 is being an idiot, I think I'm a bigger idiot missing the 'obvious' 28.Nf6! [I opted for the move played in the game.]|
|Nov-14-07|| ||znprdx: zb2cr: gotcha
|Nov-14-07|| ||schnarre: Took a while to find, after looking at other possible moves, but it seemed to advertise itself. Not a bad puzzle!|
|Nov-14-07|| ||D4n: 29. Nf6+!|
|Nov-14-07|| ||Guguni: Why not 28. Nf6+ and if the rook takes the knight the white Queen will capture the defenseless black queen at the cost of just two knights? That looks more logical than winning an exchange.|
|Nov-14-07|| ||patzer2: Indeed 28. Nf6+!, winning the Queen, is clearly stronger than the game continuation. Yet I can see both follow-up moves (28. Nf6+ and 28. Qxd7) leading to an easy win.|
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