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Mar-14-04
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| InspiredByMorphy: <drukenknight> Thanks for the thoughts on the opening. Bust your board out and check this out.
1. f3 e5
2. e4 Nc6
3. Ne2 d5
4. exd5 Qxd5
5. Nbc3 Qd8
6. d3 Nf6
7. Be3 Be6
8. d4 Bb4
9. dxe5 Nd5
10. Qd2 Nxe3
11. Qxe3 O-O
and black has no weaknesses in his camp, but white is up a pawn with almost as good of development. Nothing less than equal if not a slight advantage for white. Feel free to give me any suggestions on improving blacks moves, or even whites if you feel inclined. This variation I admit does not put the king on f2, so soon I will work on one, and kibitz it. |
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| Mar-14-04 |
| drukenknight: f3 by itself does not seem like a bad idea. If the Damiano defense can hold (did you see that line I posted recently) then why not? I'll look at this line later, I've got to catch up on horse racing now. |
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Mar-14-04
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| InspiredByMorphy: <drukenknight> There are different replys for white on move 3. Here are some variations on 3.d4 and in my opinion the better 3.d3
1. f3 e5
2. Kf2 d5
3. d4 Qh4+
4. g3 Qxd4+
5. Qxd4 exd4
6. e3 Bc5
7. Ne2 dxe3+
8. Bxe3 Bxe3+
9. Kxe3 Nc6
10. Nbc3 Nf6
11. Rd1 Bf5
12. Rd2 O-O-O
13. Nd4 Rhe8+
14. Kf4 Nxd4
15. Rxd4 Bxc2
and wins
Believe me, you wanna scope this one out!!
1. f3 e5
2. Kf2 d5
3. d3 Bc5+
4. e3 Nc6
5. Ne2 Be6
6. Bd2 Nh6
7. g3 Qf6
8. h3 O-O-O
9. Bg2 Nf5
10. Nbc3 Qg5
11. Qc1 d4
12. exd4 Bxd4+
13. Ke1 Bxc3
14. bxc3 Qg6
15. Kf2 Nd6
16. c4 Kb8
17. Rb1 f6
18. f4 e4
19. c5 Bxa2
20. Qb2! Bxb1
21. cxd6 Bxc2
22. Bxe4 Qf7
23. Nd4! Bb3
24. Nxc6+ bxc6
25. Rb1 Rxd6
26. Bb4 g6
27. Bxd6 cxd6
28. Bxc6 a5
29. Qc3 Qa7+
30. Kf1 a4
31. Bxa4 and wins. |
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Mar-14-04
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| InspiredByMorphy: I just found a move that refuted whites win from the variation before. Move 16.Nxc4 doesen't at first glance look like it will prevail, but it does...
1. f3 e5
2. Kf2 d5
3. d3 Bc5+
4. e3 Nc6
5. Ne2 Be6
6. Bd2 Nh6
7. g3 Qf6
8. h3 O-O-O
9. Bg2 Nf5
10. Nbc3 Qg5
11. Qc1 d4
12. exd4 Bxd4+
13. Ke1 Bxc3
14. bxc3 Qg6
15. Kf2 Nd6
16. c4 Nxc4
17. dxc4 Bxc4
18. Nc3 Rhe8
19. Rd1 f5
20. Qa3 f4
21. Ne4 fxg3+
22. Kg1 Kb8
23. Bg5 Rxd1+
24. Rxd1 Nd4
25. Be3 Rd8
26. Bxd4 exd4
27. Qc5 Qe6
28. Rxd4 Rxd4
29. Qxd4 Bxa2
30. f4 Bd5
31. Nxg3 Bxg2
32. Qd8+ Qc8
33. Qxc8+ Kxc8
34. Kxg2 a5
and wins. |
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Mar-14-04
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| InspiredByMorphy: Overall I think that playing 2.Kf2 is probably not the best idea, although there is nothing wrong with 2.e4 |
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| Apr-12-04 |
| mack: <I cannot imagine a purist like Fischer -- who proposed "a bust to the king's gambit" -- opening a game like that.> Let's not forget that he played the King's Gambit against Greenblatt in a private game in 1977 - perhaps the combined factors of anonymity knowing that he's playing someone inferior allow to become less dogmatic. <Drunkenknight>, what do you mean, the Damiano holds up? I thought black complete collapses after 3. Nxe5, doesn't it? |
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| Jul-28-04 |
| ArturoRivera: Well, it may be that Fischer uses this opening to dismiss completly the knowledge of the openings of the rival, i know that for him he played 1.-e4!!, he liked a lot and this antiestetic move may be an insult, but how about the declarations of Nigel Short and thhe Questions that the guest answered that could only be answered by RJF?
It may be that he was triying to say that he was clearly superior, an 1.-f3 as a move designed to confuse the opponent it doesnt sound bad, does it?
<Thanks for the Game you posted InspiredByMorphy!> |
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May-01-05
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| patzer2: White's surprise deflection 28. Nxe4!! Qb6 is followed up by a second decisive deflection, 29. Rc6! Analysis with Fritz 8 indicates the sideline possibilitiess may be more interesting than the actual game: <28. Nxe4!! Qb6> (28... fxe4 29. Qxh5! Qxd5 30. Qh7+  ) <29. Rc6! Qxc6> (29...Qb2 30. Rf6+! Ke8 31. Nd6+ Kd7 32. Nc4 Qc3 33. Rb1 Qxc4 34. Rb7+ Kc8 35. Rf8+ Kxb7 36. Qxe7+ Qc7 37. Qxc7+ Kxc7 38. Rxa8 ) <30. dxc6 Rxg5 31. Nxg5+ Ke8 32. e4 Rc8 33. exf5 gxf5 34. Re5 Rxc6 35. Rxa5 Rc4 36. g3 Rc3 37. Kg2 Rc2+ 38. Kh3 Rc3 39. a4 Ra3 40. Ne6> 1-0 |
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May-01-05
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| patzer2: If 29...Nxc6, then 30. Qf6+! gives White a winning attack. |
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| May-17-05 |
| cade: Ah the Fried Liver attack. A rarity to see in practice. |
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| May-17-05 |
| hintza: What are you talking about? The Fried Liver Attack is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Nxd5?? 6.Nxf7 etc. |
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| May-17-05 |
| cade: Oops i meant the Pork Chop (known as the Fried Fox when played by black). I wonder who came up with all these odd names. |
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May-17-05
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| Eric Schiller: <cade> Names get attached in all sorts of ways. I've done a lot of research on them, and have a list of over 2900 avaiable at www.chesscity.com. Chessgames is working on implementing that database for use here. Whimsical names are usually generated in USA or England. There are no accepted standards for naming opening variations. |
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Jul-19-06
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| patzer2: Maybe someone will work out a playable opening line with 1. f3, but IMO this isn't it. Black can improve on 9...Bg4 with either 9...h4! 10. Nh1 h3! or 9...Ng4+! 10. Kg1 Qh4 with a clear advantage and a strong initiative. Any opening where White is struggling to equalize after 10 moves is not a good choice. |
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Aug-12-06
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| oao2102: This is advanced technology... |
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| Mar-05-07 |
| mattzap: what brought me to this game was that someone used it against me on the ICC server the other day. I must say it did surprise me, but my response was basically e5, d5, as most would think, in order to gain the centre against such a seemingly suicidal opening. To be honest, I though I would nail this chap instantly, but he battled out for a draw, and I was surprised just how "OK" this opening was! Of course, had he played on his second move g4, then he's set himself up for fool's mate... but he didn't.... |
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| Aug-03-08 |
| ravel5184: Aw, it doesn't say "explore this opening"! |
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| Aug-03-08 |
| ravel5184: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... |
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Dec-11-08
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| hedgeh0g: Don't forget the old rule: Kings before Knights. |
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| Dec-13-08 |
| WhiteRook48: The retarded King opening. There's another way for that:
1. e3!? e5?! 2. Ke2!! d5 3. Kd3!!! And Black LOST! Did he laugh himself to death? |
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| Feb-07-09 |
| WhiteRook48: 2 Kf2!! "White will proceed to overprotect e3 with 3. d3, 4. e3, 5. Qe2, 6. Nc3, and 7. Nd1 |
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| Mar-01-09 |
| WhiteRook48: with Nimzowitsch's "My System." Sorry for overloading the page |
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Apr-01-09
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| waustad: <Eric Schiller>The link to the opening names document on the chesscity site is dead. |
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| Apr-01-09 |
| WhiteRook48: I can't imagine why this is the Opening of the Day |
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Apr-01-09
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| Eric Schiller: <waustad>http://ericschiller.com/resources.htm |
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sac: 30.dxc6