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Oct-28-05 | | iron maiden: <suenteus po 147> Never resign! |
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Oct-29-05 | | suenteus po 147: <iron maiden> Thanks for spotting this! It's amazing how Anand through complete dedication to playing out the endgame is able to win the draw. Psychologically, he probably had some help from having the intense complexity in the middlegame. By the end, Svidler was probably happy to wash his hands of the game without a loss :) |
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Feb-03-07 | | positionalgenius: Everyone should look at this one-brilliance from svidler. |
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Dec-30-08 | | soberknight: Yes, I remember seeing some years ago that Svidler drew a won endgame. This is the first time I'm seeing the whole game. |
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Jun-28-09
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <aulero: Svidler agreed a draw in a winning position!! *** >
Here is the complete analysis of this ending from "Fundamental Chess Endings" by Muller and Lamprecht (Gambit (c)2001), E3.10 at pages 75 and 369 (with move numbers conformed to the actual game): Svidler,P. - Anand,V.
Dos Hermanas, 1999
70.Kxd4 Nb5+ 71.Kc5! Nxa7 72.Kb6! (Nunn Convention is used throughout these notes.) Nc8+ 73.Kc7! 73...Na7 [73...Ne7 74.h7! Kg7 (74...Nd5+ 75.Kd6 Kg7 76.Kxd5 ) 75.f6+! ] 74.Kd7!! [74.h7? Kg7!=] 74...Nb5 [74...Kf6 75.h7! Kg7 76.f6+! Kxh7 77.f7! Kg7 78.Ke8! ] 75.h7! Kg7 76.f6+! Kxh7 77.f7! Kg7 78.Ke7! Considering the number of far-from-obvious "only" moves in this analysis, even if Svidler had been motivated to play for the win, my guess is the most likely outcome still would have been a split point (i.e., Svidler would have missed 71. Kc5! or 72.Kb6! or 73.Kc7! or 74.Kd7! and the great defender Anand would not have allowed him another chance to win). |
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Oct-20-10 | | sevenseaman: The decisions OTB are ruled by what one can see there. |
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May-23-12 | | sheltone: GM Campora was the one who spotted the win before Svidler resigned. |
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Jun-14-12 | | dumbgai: <Yes, I remember seeing some years ago that Svidler drew a won endgame.> This is not the only time Svidler has drawn a won endgame. Here's another: Gelfand vs Svidler, 2001 |
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Sep-02-12
 | | plang: 11..Bd5 was an idea first played by I.Sokolov against Anand at Lyon 1994 (Black won). The piece sacrifice 12 Nxf7 was first played in Dominguez - Rios Cuba 1996. Svidler's 14 Qg4 was an improvement over Dominguez's 14 Ne4. The alternative defense 18..h6 could have been answered by 19 Nh4..Rg8 20 Ng6+..Kd6 21 cxd..Ncxd4 22 Be3 with a powerful attack. Flear felt that Black could have improved with 20..Qd5 (intending ..Kd7) 21 Nxe6..Nxe6 22 Rxe6..Qxe6 23 Re1..Qxe1 24 Rxe1..dxc 25 Bxc3..Kd8 and Black is out of danger. Anand, down three pawns, put up a dogged defense. He won material with 43..Rxc3 but an alternative suggested by his second Ubilava may have been even stronger: 43..Rxc2 44 Kd1..Rxf2 (threatening ..Kd3). As Seirawan pointed out 68..Kg7! would have maintained the fortress and drawn; Marin gave the drawing line as 68..Kg7! 69 Kd3..Kg8! 70 h6..Kh7 71 Kxd4..Nb5+ 72 Kd5..Nxa7 73 f6..Kxh6 74 Kd6..Kg6 (followed by ..Nc6). Instead, after 68..Kf6? Anand was theoretically lost. This fortunate escape was the highlight of a poor tournament who finished tied for last (with Svidler and J Polgar) with a winless -2 (Adams won the tournament). |
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Nov-07-15 | | sfm: Instead of accepting the draw White had of course no risk in trying 70.KxP. But he he didn't even imagine that there could be a win after 71.-,Nxa7. |
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Jun-16-16 | | Keshav Murali: Not sure if Ruy Lopez or Fried Liver Attack, :D |
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Jun-08-19 | | Christoforus Polacco: Swidler couldn't lose that endgame. So...For him it was any risk to play a some longer :)) Draw was the obvious plan minimum without any danger .... Shade. |
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Jun-08-19 | | SChesshevsky: Clocks are involved, so there is a way Svidler could lose the endgame. Walking into the fork and then chasing the N by diverting the K away from the pawns probably isn't going to be near the first lines calculated. Without knowing the clock situation, it's hard to tell whether Svidler blew it or just made a practical decision. |
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Jun-14-19 | | Christoforus Polacco: At 1999 year there were used electronic clocks or not ? With 30 seconds extra per one móve ? :) Probably not.....:)) |
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Jul-19-20
 | | gezafan: Since black couldn't win with only a knight Svidler should have played it out. |
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Jul-19-20
 | | Sally Simpson: ***
(I think I'll shoot for the most pedantic post of July 2020.) <" Since black couldn't win with only a knight..."> The Anand plan would have been to leave Svidler with the h-pawn. Svidler offered the draw before Anand thought of it.  click for larger viewBlack plays Ng5 and it's mate next move.
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Nov-03-20 | | Messiah: Svidler, Svidler On the Wall, Who's The Passer After All? |
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Dec-18-20
 | | Honza Cervenka: 68...Kg7 was correct move leading to draw. Vishi was quite lucky that Svidler did not find a studylike win after 70. Kxd4 Nb5+ 71. Kc5 Nxa7 72. Kb6 Nc8+ 73. Kc7 Na7 74. Kd7 Nb5 75. h7 Kg7 76. f6+ Kxh7 77. f7 Kg7 78. Ke7 or 73...Ne7 74. h7 Kg7 75. f6+. |
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Jul-24-21
 | | offramp: The word <mirror> has been replaced by <Svidler> because they sound almost exactly the same, and the word <fairest> has been replaced by <passer> because they sound almost exactly the same. I don't know what a passer is. Could be a passed pawn. As a pun, a bit of a gallimaufray. |
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Jul-24-21
 | | Teyss: <offramp> Your humour should be UNESCO Cultural heritage. Seriously. For the pun I would have tried <Svindler> Or <Svindled> (see above analysis). |
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Jul-24-21 | | Messiah: Excellent pun! |
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Jul-24-21
 | | Teyss: <Messiah> Thank you. Oh, you mean yours… |
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Jul-24-21 | | nevetsjy: Absolutely atrocious pun. |
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Jul-24-21
 | | Breunor: Amazing game. Playing through on the computer we see both super GMs miss a lot of moves both in both the middle game and the endgame. For me both the middlegame and the endgame are chess at its best! |
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Jul-24-21
 | | HeMateMe: Terrific game, two heavyweights. |
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