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|Nov-27-07|| ||tyimfi: Nxf3+ threat on white queen after 22...Qe6 is nice, from what I can tell all of white's defenses favor black.|
But 23. Kf1 doesn't seem like the best move. e.g. 23. Bxc5 is a bad minor exchange for white but it seems a lot worse to me to trap the rook with Kf1.
|Nov-27-07|| ||menhir: Good example of centralisation. I wonder where Chucky made his first mistake. Maybe by playing 15. Nd1?|
|Nov-27-07|| ||evenua: Hmm, why 23.Kf1 instead of much simpler 23.0-0? Could anyone please explain the reason behind?|
|Nov-27-07|| ||kevin86: While white's foeces are stuck,black's are poised to attack. Funny,but white is in fact a pawn ahead,but hopeless.|
|Nov-27-07|| ||tyimfi: <evenua> 23.0-0 still allows 23...Nxf3+ winning the queen with 24...Qxe3 (or 24...Bxf3 if 24. Qxf3). I was wondering above why not 23. Bxc5. That rook was trapped the rest of the game from Kf1|
|Nov-27-07|| ||Phony Benoni: <evenua> As was mentioned earlier, 23.0-0 is much simpler. Black wins the queen with 23...Nxf3+, and that will probably be that.|
However, I don't know if <tyimfi>'s suggestion of 23.Bxe5 is a whole lot better. After 23...Bxe5 White still cannot cannot castle because of ...Bxh2+, and is a long way from untangling. Perhaps Ivanchuk was hoping he could still open the h-file for the rook if Kasparov would just leave him alone for a minute or two, but no such luck.
|Nov-27-07|| ||Riverbeast: Great name for this game...Kasparov made Chucky HIS bride!|
|Nov-27-07|| ||tyimfi: (sorry, Bxe5 not c5)
<Phony Benoni> I did not see that Bxh2+, thanks. Maybe instead of castling right away he could have gotten that queen somewhere safer? I don't see any great places for it. Hmm, I guess settling for an h-file opening attempt is the "least bad" thing.
|Nov-27-07|| ||hitman84: In the movie it was chuck who got lucky in the end :)|
|Nov-27-07|| ||patzer2: So, if I read all the posts correctly, the debate started by GM Timmerman in 1999 as to whether Ivanchuk resigned prematurely still continues.|
In the final position, Ivanchuk could have put up more of a fight and forced Kasparov to demonstrate Black's win. His reluctance to continue in an inferior position suggests an unwillingness to resist his strong opponent. In this game, perhaps the answer to the unspoken question "will you resign rather than continue to resist me?" was met with a still unspoken "Yes, I resign as I can no longer resist you!" -- much like the "yes I can no longer resist you" answer given by a future Bride to a persistent suitor asking "will you marry me?"
So, <Chessgames.com>, is that your explanation for the game of the day pun "I Now Pronounce You Chuk and Garry?"
|Nov-27-07|| ||patzer2: From a tactical perspective, I suppose it's possible Kasparov saw as early as 24...Rbc8, the possibility of setting a strong positional pin after 31...Rc1! to . |
Kasparov's plan seems to be to tie up
the White King side, and, while Ivanchuk tries to untangle himself from the pins, eat a pawn or two on the Queenside, while simultaneously preparing to demolish the pawn structure on the King side.
Deep stuff! Hopefully, Gary has seen as deeply in his new polictical career in risking his life and fortune to fight the authoritarian Putin regime to bring about true Democracy in Russia.
Of course, with Gary in Jail, and all the power in the hands of Putin and his corrupt judicial system, it would appear it is now Kasparov who is fighting on in the inferior position. Yet, with the truth and world opinion on his side, Gary may yet pull off a swindle and help bring about an end to the Putin regime and facilitate the establishment of a real democracy there.
|Nov-27-07|| ||patzer2: A good article about the gamble Gary Kasparov is taking in personally resisting Putin's authoritarian regime can be found at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy....|
There's a good article summarizing the general European reaction at http://www.reuters.com/article/poli....
An article explaining Putin's actions taken to keep Russia a one party state under his control can be found at http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1127/....
|Nov-27-07|| ||zealouspawn: thanks patzer2, articles much appreciated.|
|Nov-27-07|| ||Phony Benoni: <patzer2> I doubt there's any deep political meaning to the pun. This link probably explains what was meant: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0762107/|
|Nov-27-07|| ||InspiredByMorphy: I don't understand. 32.Kf1 then what?|
|Nov-27-07|| ||Riverbeast: If 32. Kf1, then 32... Bd4 looks strong, keeping white in the yoke. If 33. Nd3 Ra1.|
|Nov-27-07|| ||patzer2: <InspiredByMorphy: I don't understand. 32.Kf1 then what?> See <Honza Cervenka's> analysis at page one.|
|Nov-27-07|| ||Jimfromprovidence: I donít see any way white stays even in this game.
How do you keep black from winning material?
If 32 h4 then 32ÖBd4 33 Kf1 Ra1 34 hxg5 Rxa2 35 Ne4 Bxb3 36 Bxb3 Ra1+ 37 Ke2 Rxh1, and black is up the rook for bishop exchange. I believe you end up in the same place if White plays 32 Kf1 first.
|Nov-27-07|| ||BlackNightmare: garry master of the najdorf!|
|Feb-13-08|| ||Eyal: Kasparov actually had a more direct win with 28...Nxd1! and White is left quite helpless after 29.Qxd8+ Kh7 30.Bd3+ f5 or 29.Bxd1 Rd6. Instead, he preferred to transpose the game into a technically won ending - but since Ivanchuk didn't want to suffer for very long and resigned quickly it didn't make a real practical difference.|
In Linares 1999 it was almost suicidal to play 1.e4 against Kasparov (Kramnik was the only one who had the sense to open 1.d4...) - he scored 5.5/6 with the Sicilian, the only draw being played in the penultimate round when winning the tournament was already guaranteed.
|Oct-31-09|| ||zatara: premature resignation???lol..I think you play too much bullet chess..|
|Nov-30-10|| ||jmboutiere: After 13...Rb8 Kasparov had equalised the game|
|Jun-06-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:
Ivanchuk vs Kasparov, 1999.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF KASPAROV.
Your score: 37 (par = 40)
|Nov-30-12|| ||plang: Played in round 2; the first of 5 consecutive wins with Black for Kasparov (all Sicilians). A month earlier at Wijk-aan-Zee Shirov had played the more popular 10 Be2 against Kasparov and Kasparov had gone on to win a nice game. At Linares 1998 Kasparov had played 14..Bd7 against Anand in game that ended in an uneventful draw; 14..b4 was his prepared improvement. After 17 exd?! Black was already better; Kasparov recommended 17 Ba7 with an unclear game. Note that 17 Bxe5..Bxe5 18 Qxd5..Qc7 would have given Black great counterplay for the pawn. 21 0-0..Ng4 would have been good for Black. Giving up castling with 23 Kf1?! worked out poorly for White though the alternative 23 Ne4..Ng4 would have left Black clearly better as well.|
After the game extensive analysis was provided to demonstrate how poor White's position was. One example was 32 g3..Bh3 33 Nxh3..Rxd1+ 34 Kg2..Rd2+ 35 Kf1..Rxa2 36 f4..g4 37 Nf2..h5 38 h3..Bd4 39 Nd1..h4!.
Timman offered what seems to be White's best line: 32 g4..Ra1 33 Kg2..Bc3 (preventing 34 Re1) 34 Be2..Rxa2 35 Rc1..Be5 36 Kf1..Bxh2 37 b4. This may be winning for Black but would require considerable precision.
This game strikes me as a textbook example of Black's play in the Najdorf when he is able to control e5.
|Nov-10-17|| ||offramp: It is not too hard to play games like this.
First, know the Sicilian Najdorf inside out and upside down.
Second, never lose a tempo. Not a single one, ever.
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